Hold your horses, it's not that easy to fire Mueller - Read this by John Dean

[Iwasthere]

Last edited Fri Jul 21, 2017, 05:34 PM - Edit history (1)

[link:https://verdict.justia.com/2017/07/21/trumps-mueller-scheming-will-fail|

[yallerdawg]

1. This guy knows what he's talking about.

He helped take down one president already.

[Pacifist Patriot]

6. Ha ha! Yes, the author is a key component to trusting this information.

He'd know.

[H2O Man]

2. Recommended.

[PoliticAverse]

3. Trump could fire Mueller and then the issue could be taken to the Supreme Court....

which would ultimately decide the power of the executive in this case.

[Iwasthere]

4. True

But while it’s in the court Mueller stays, right?

[PoliticAverse]

5. That would depend on if a court issued a "stay" of Trump's firing order. n/t

[Lyricalinklines]

8. Is that what trump is aiming for? .... redefining executive office? Hmmm. eom

[Stonepounder]

14. Actually, Trump does NOT have the power to fire Mueller.

Only the AG (or the acting AG) can fire Mueller. And he has to outline, in writing, what he is basing his firing on, and Mueller has the ability to appeal the AG's finding to fire.

[PoliticAverse]

18. Whether Trump, the head of the executive branch, has the power to fire an employee of the executive

branch would ultimately be determined by the Supreme Court.

The rules you cite were promulgated by the DOJ, part of the executive branch.

Here's one (informed) opinion on the matter (from http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/can-trump-fire-mueller/ )

There’s yet another route the president could take, Neal Katyal, a professor of national security law at Georgetown University, wrote in a piece for the Washington Post on May 19: “Trump could order the special-counsel regulations repealed and then fire Mueller himself.”

Katyal said he would know, because back in 1999, he was tapped by then-Attorney General Janet Reno to head an internal working group on the issue of special counsel — and he helped write the regulations now being cited by Rosenstein.

“The rules provide only so much protection: Congress, Trump and the Justice Department still have the power to stymie (or even terminate) Mueller’s inquiry,” Katyal wrote.

As this is not a settled issue and there is differing opinion on the matter it would be up to the
US Supreme Court to ultimately decide the extent of the chief executive's power in this regard.

[BamaRefugee]

7. I'm confident that in a time of partisan crisis

the Conservative Republican majority at SCOTUS will do the wise and judicious thing, and be totally fair in their ruling.
Heh.

[Duppers]

12. Exactly!

[Skittles]

9. wow, the last paragraph

"I have not mentioned the potential of any of Trump action against the special counsel provoking an impeachment proceeding by Congress because I do not believe Republicans will, under any circumstances, including Trump shooting someone on 5th Avenue, undertake to impeach and remove Trump. They are spineless, and have placed party before country. But institutions like the Justice Department and the federal judiciary have not yet been corrupted by the Republicans, and they remain the check on this out-of-bounds president."

so fucking true

[Gidney N Cloyd]

15. If Trump is really fouling the waters, why wouldn't the repubs go along with impeachment?

Seems like they have everything to gain and nothing to lose by elevating Pence or Ryan. They'd look patriotic and they'd still have a cooperative (even more so) guy in the white house.

[Skittles]

17. they would piss off the Deplorables

they would lose them, maybe forever

[smirkymonkey]

10. K&R and Bookmarked!

[longship]

11. John Dean, again showing his wisdom and intelligence.

R&

On DU one can quote four paragraphs. If I had not suspected that this was a John Dean article, I might not have clicked through.

DU rule #14A: If you expect your OP to be supported, quote up to four key paragraphs from the source.

[L. Coyote]

13. Trumps lack of preparation resulted in him making too many serious errors, mistakes

............ Trump’s lack of preparation resulted in him making too many serious errors, mistakes that would embarrass most presidents but not one who feels no shame .............

the attorney general testified in June 2017, “I recused myself not because of any asserted wrongdoing on my part during the campaign,” he explained. “But because a Department of Justice regulation, 28 CFR 45.2, required it.” He added, “That regulation states, in effect, that department employees should not participate in investigations of a campaign if they have served as a campaign advisor.” In short, it is a long-standing rule that guides the Justice Department.

Surely Trump knows this, for it was widely reported, so he was telling the New York Times he was angry with Sessions for following the Justice Depart rule because it resulted in the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, appointing special counsel Robert Mueller, after the president fired FBI director James Comey. In Trump’s thinking, apparently, if Sessions had not recused himself there would be no special counsel Mueller investigating possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. Trump—a man who is anything but subtle and who conspicuously manipulative—in his interview thus reveals that he is deeply concerned about the Mueller investigation.

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Trump’s Mueller Scheming Will Fail - 21 Jul 2017 - John Dean

[iluvtennis]

16. Excellent news- thanks for sharing the link

[chwaliszewski]

19. The problem with the Republicans is...

they would allow Dorito Mussolini to do whatever he wanted in order to stay on his good side IF...the Supreme Court allows Trump to do what he wants. In other words, we potentially have Adolph Grappler in the making here.

[TxDemChem]

20. Great read

That q&a section made me feel better about drumpf's shenanigans. But Dean is right, the GOP won't impeach him.

[Amaryllis]

21. BEst news in weeks.