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Mass destruction of the environment!! (slides)
In January, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to revive and expedite two multi-billion-dollar underground pipelines that would snake oil through US states to centers of the petroleum industry.
One is the contentious $3.8 billion Dakota Access pipeline, which would shuttle petroleum more than 1,100 miles, from North Dakota's Bakkan oil fields to holding tanks in Patoka, Illinois.
The other is the Keystone XL pipeline - a new segment of the existing Keystone Pipeline system, which begins in the Alberta, Canada tar sands and ends in Patoka as well as points in Texas along the Gulf of Mexico. The XL segment, which could cost its builders as much as $10 billion, is partially built and would move larger volumes of oil in less time by shortening the route and burying larger-diameter pipes.
Click through the slides above to see the awesome scale of the oil extraction project
Proponents of the pipeline say it will lessen dependence on foreign oil while creating jobs and growing domestic industry. However, many Americans, and primarily Native Americans, are furious about Trump's latest executive order.
Barack Obama killed the Keystone XL pipeline in November 2015, stating it wouldn't have helped lower gas prices or create that many jobs. He also said the long-term contribution to climate change - possibly more than 22 billion metric tons of carbon pollution, according to Scientific American - wasn't worth the loss of America's global leadership on fighting emissions that exacerbate global warming.
"If we're going to prevent large parts of this Earth from becoming inhabitable, if not inhospitable [...] we have to keep some fossil fuels in the ground," Obama said.
Trump's televised revival of Keystone XL didn't mention its steep environmental costs, including the 54,000 square miles (140,000 square kilometers) of pristine Alberta wilderness that may be razed to feed it.
"We're not saying the project is good or bad. We're just saying the scale and severity of what's happening in Alberta will make your spine tingle," Robert Johnson, a former Business Insider correspondent, wrote after flying over the Canadian oil sands in May 2012
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstories/at-one-end-of-trumps-revived-keystone-xl-pipeline-theres-a-scene-you-must-see-to-believe/ss-AAmihk9?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)TrogL
(32,822 posts)How is this "pristine...wilderness"?
trc
(823 posts)it is like shallow coal, you need to strip the surface to get to the tar sands...54000 square miles is the area stated.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Proponents of the pipeline say it will lessen dependence on foreign oil while creating jobs and growing domestic industry.
DK504
(3,847 posts)they are unemployed from the countless jobs that were created? I'm sure every single one of them voted for the Traitor.
If this oil is so fantastic let Canada pipe it to their ports as they sell that crap to China. It was never going to be sold in America why is it our responsibility, other than making Halliburton more money.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)The pipeline is about moving the oil extracted from that land. Look at the pictures. They are extracting that oil now, and are going to continue. If the pipeline is not built, they are not going to stop extracting the oil, because they cannot move it. They are moving it. They are going to continue extracting it and moving it.
There may be valid reasons to object to the pipelines. Probably are. But saving the Alberta wilderness is not such a valid objection. The pipelines are not the only method of moving the oil.
In any case, the Dakota pipeline which is spoken of in the article in future tense, is already built and was in operation until it was halted by a temporary court order. That order will not hold up and the pipeline will be beck in operation. The protest on the prarie to try and prevent it from being opened, not to prevent it from being built, because it already had been built, lasted for months and when it was over the protesters left behind 850 tons of garbage on the prairie they were supposedly trying to protect.
Protect land that is already despoiled, and protect prairie by leaving 850 tons of garbage on it. Nice.
central scrutinizer
(11,648 posts)Turning huge tracts of boreal forest into hectares of hideous gack
TrogL
(32,822 posts)...there's not much forest up there. It's mostly rock and scrub.