My husband calls him Corleone.

[calimary]

Scarry-mooch, that is. The new Michael Corleone. Handsome, slick, ultra-groomed, probably takes to on-camera makeup well, too.

ANOTHER one out of Central Casting. Just like Mike Pence. I'd bet that trump took one look at him and realized this is one way to telegraph to "his" people that whites are back in charge. Because Mike Pence is absolutely the whitest white guy I've ever seen. Sometimes I refer to him as The Albino.

[MineralMan]

2. "Going for granite?" What does that even mean?

Trump and his nefarious mob have a close resemblance to other mobs people are aware of. They exist you know. Organized crime exists for real.

And Tony "The Tongue" Scaramucci looks a lot like a mobster, really. He acts like one, too, or at least like the "mouthpiece" for one.

I'm sorry he has an Italian name. But that's beside the point, really.

Anyhow, it's nice to see new faces on DU. I hope you enjoy contributing to the many discussions we have here.

[HAB911]

3. same thing yesterday

I never think of Italian as a race, but...........

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029357545#post2

[MineralMan]

4. Yes, I remember.

You know, the Mafia's not a real thing. There is no mob. It's just a Hollywood myth. That's what I hear, anyhow...

[MineralMan]

20. It's a matter of coincidence that Tony the Tongue

has an Italian name. Whether it's the Mafia or the Russian Mob, Trump is surrounding himself with goombahs and droogies. If his name was Scarmuchov, I'd be making jokes about the Russian Mob. As it happens, the guy's got the name of a clown in a commedia dell'arte farce. He is a little "silhouetto of a man." He's Scaramouche. His name is synonymous with a classic, farcical clown. I've also made jokes about him dancing the Fandango, for pete's sake. I will continue to mock him in any way I choose. He's a piece of shit used car salesman (POSUCS) as well. He's a skinny, little, fast-talking, stereotypical con man, too.

Some of the better known commedia dell'arte characters are Pierrot and Pierrette, Pantalone, Il Dottore, Brighella, Il Capitano, Colombina, the innamorati, Pedrolino, Pulcinella, Sandrone, Scaramuccia (also known as Scaramouche), La Signora, and Tartaglia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commedia_dell%27arte

He's a consummate slimeball who is now acting as the mouthpiece for the worst President this country has ever seen.

I'm truly sorry if I have offended you in any way, but I'm talking about someone else, not you. I don't know you at all. Perhaps I will know you better after some time has passed. I'm talking about Trump's new Minister of Truth, Director of Newspeak and Chief Jester. You can count on me to continue to do so.

[cwydro]

33. Very well put.

Thank you..

[Hortensis]

35. Agree, including the thank you.

Our daughter paid to have our family genetic analyses done; and, typical of so many, between the two of us, we can be extremely offended almost any time we choose to be. Or not.

[MineralMan]

38. I, too, am a pretty diverse sort of mutt.

I never take offense, unless it is offered to me directly, and at no charge.

[LiberalArkie]

59. People like to believe that it does not exit.

I grew up in South Arkansas where we had county sheriffs like the good ol "Boss Hogg" fame. Yes they controlled everything. They controlled how the ballots were counted. They reported to the Hot Springs mob of the Dixie Mafia who financed many a venture.

It is just bigger on the national stage. If a decision meant everyone in their area died, so be it as long as the organization made a profit from it.

[Drahthaardogs]

30. Well the Italian Americans here obviously take offense

So why the fuck do you get to tell us it's okay and we need to take it?

[MineralMan]

37. See this link:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029362298

I'm not telling you anything. I'm posting my reactions to the little creep. You don't need to "take it," either. You can simply ignore me on Democratic Underground, where I post my reactions to things frequently. I also post photos I find on the internet that interest me, and comment in many threads here. I'm a pretty prolific poster, so you'll likely encounter my posts frequently if you keep coming to DU.

As for "why the fuck," it's because I am free to post here. You'll find a more complete explanation at the link above. If you disagree with that, as well, then you disagree. People often disagree here. If I'm mocking anything, it's a caricature of a mafioso underling. I'm not mocking you. I don't know you. I'm not mocking Italians in general, since I know many people of Italian heritage who also mock the mafia types.

Good luck to you.

[Hekate]

89. And you, sir, have gone too far

[Drahthaardogs]

90. This entire OP is a travesty

That a woman posts how her husband calls an Italian American made. He does not like, Michael Corleone and then goes through why it is just so...

Should they have called Sean Spicer, Spicer McWifebeater, or Spicey Mc Irishdrunk???


Is that cool? Is that not racist talk?

[Blue_true]

62. Sorry, anyone who voted for Trump was NEVER a liberal.

Regardless of how young or old they are.

[calimary]

5. Welcome to DU, BarbaraFritche!

Point taken.

I think guys like this new fellow on the team do more to further the cliches than anybody else.

It looks like the Central Casting effect to me. I even find myself suspecting that trump likes this guy because trump fancies himself looking like him. Young, handsome, intensely groomed, and totally camera-ready, rather than old, rumpled, and orange.

Mooshy looks and behaves as though he's VERY proud of his looks and his "charms". Probably used them on girls since he was old enough to sweet-talk them. He's a WORLD CLASS manipulator.

I used to see guys like these hanging around my dad - who was old, rumpled, and well - NOT orange. He liked these slick-looking specimens. They sold the sales line more effectively.

You have to remember, too: Looks are EVERYTHING with trump. They're EVERYTHING. Appearances are EVERYTHING. You have to have the most beautiful girls surrounding you, the most glamorous wife, the most superior offspring (look at the grooming on those sons of his), the biggest buildings, the gold trappings surrounding him from the wallpaper and chandeliers on down. EVERYTHING.

Thinking back to the Reagan era, too - STAGING was EVERYTHING. How things looked. The production values. The outward appearances. The high-ranking PR guys like Michael Deaver always at the boss's elbow.

It's Central Casting as a political weapon. Weaponized Central Casting. All I'm saying is - just be aware of it. It's a weapon they're using to manage public perception. Remember trump's first criticisms of Sean Spicer? Looked terrible, suit didn't even fit well. LOOKS. LOOKS are IT. Looks are EVERYTHING. The only two people who don't fit that mold that he still has close by are Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon. Bannon stays in the shadows. Kellyanne looks like somebody mopped the floor with her most of the time - except I will say that after she disappeared for awhile, earlier this year, I think she went out and had some face work done. And you need time for the nips 'n' tucks and fillers to settle in and heal up.

[cwydro]

10. I don't get it. He's NOT good looking to me at all.

So many refer to his good looks.

Ugh. Just not.

[Hekate]

17. It's the dead eyes

[cwydro]

25. Yeah, that for sure.

But something wrong with his mouth.

Not what I consider a good looking guy. Slick, yeah lol.

[SharonClark]

92. Agree, he looks a little creepy to me.

[Stinky The Clown]

12. Hi Mary

Last edited Sun Jul 23, 2017, 04:58 PM - Edit history (1)

I would (edited to add the forgotten word) NOT have even honored that post with a reply. Your OP is spot on.

[malaise]

23. Ditto

[hlthe2b]

6. Heavens..

I haven't read a post that so very much misses the point in months. If you have followed Trump at all, you surely know that there is considerable reason to believe he funded his earlier ventures via mob ties, but that is incidental to the issues with this new communications director-- his being Italian is more an afterthought rather than a central issue. He is the stereotype of the kind of smarmy "successful" good looking SYCOPHANTIC person that Trump covets--ethnicity not even an issue. He could be Martian and still fit that bill.

I do, however, welcome you to DU.

I don't agree with calling him Corleone. If that is your specific issue, rather than a need to defend this particular Trump croney specifically, then fine.

[leftstreet]

8. LOL at your typo 'ethic shaming' n/t

[hlthe2b]

9. ha! well, I think we can all agree that this new Trump croney has no ethics, so shame away!

LOL

[Drahthaardogs]

31. Barbara you go for it!

It's bullshit andnthis is EXACTLY the reason The Son's of Italy exists.

[Stinky The Clown]

44. So. You have gray hair and a PhD

Am I to be impressed? And since you brought it up, it is now fair game. For what was your PhD granted and by what institution.

Thanks in advance.

[Stinky The Clown]

76. I find I don't believe a word of that.

Far too much of hitting every "liberal button" on your keyboard.

[Drahthaardogs]

64. You sure are putting up quite. A fight to maintain the right

To make ethnic stereotypes about a group of people.who obviously don't like it.

Racist much? What else do you call it?

Fight for your right to make Italian slurs Stinky!

[Stinky The Clown]

79. Iam :cough: Italian.

100%

Not even a hint of any other ethnicity.

[Drahthaardogs]

80. Really? Are you fluent?

How many times have you been back to Italy. Are you REALLY Italian American? Are you a member of the Sons of Italy?

[Stinky The Clown]

81. No. Three times. Yes. English is technically my second language. No.

Nor the Knights of Columbus. Nor the IAADL.

[Drahthaardogs]

82. Too bad then.

Others dies for you to have these priveleges. Instead of defending those who.slur your ethnicity, you should remember what those before you did to make it safe for you to be here.

I won't tolerate the racism or the stereotype. It's nonsense

[Stinky The Clown]

83. Uh, its not racism. Italian is an ethnicity or a nationality, not a race.

Nice try, though. For your trouble, we'll be sending you the home version of Fuck With The Clown.

Have a swell evening figuring out your next move.

You and me? We're done. Buh-byyyyyeee.

[Drahthaardogs]

84. Sorry chief, we were not considered "white" here until

About 1978.

You don't know what you don't know...

[calimary]

53. Oh my.

Of course you can comment here.

I'll add a few more: the problem with a typo is what it can be used for.

I just had one myself in another thread - It's not "President Pro Ten." It's "President Pro Tem-with-an-m". D'OH!!! Shame on me. I know better. And I'm a better proof-reader than that. But then I resonate yet again with this very early Peanuts cartoon that rang my chimes back when my age was a single digit. It was Lucy grandstanding (as usual) at Charlie Brown (as usual), and making this BIG-Ass Earth-Shaking Point Of The Universal Truthiness, and getting one word wrong. And the punchline of that strip was her concession - "I'm never quite so stupid as when I'm being smart." Can't count how many times that's applied to me!

Interesting term you throw in here: "peer-reviewed publications." That's really good! NO snark meant! Seriously. I personally happen to love when somebody comes up with a cool way to describe something. I felt the same when I realized something else that goes on here all the time and a word popped up to describe it REEEEEEALLLLY gorgeously: "curated." Or "curating." Or "curator(s)." That's what we do here - those of us who make points or initiate discussions or write OPs or post some breaking news they may have just that moment spotted on CNN or their Twitter feed or some such. Shit - that's what we are, here. Curators. We find news and make points that haven't had conventional media exposure, and it all lives and thrives here!

Your post count suggests you're new here. Hey, lots of us had bumpy starts. I say that in all congeniality because I prefer to think of you as another one of us. A fellow Gem. A fellow liberal/progressive/Independent - whatever. Someone more or less of like mind. We kick stuff around here all hours of every day. One of us, Skittles I think, once said "someone's always here." And how!

That said, there are some who've come here whose intention is more to disrupt and stir shit up. It's hard to know for sure unless a track record starts to take shape, and somebody notices. And you have to look at whether it's serious in-depth discussion that includes a Devil's Advocate debater, or it's just some invading trouble-maker. And if/when somebody notices, probably the first response might be snark or some other challenge. We've certainly had our share of trolls. I've only had a short exposure to you so far, so I'm reserving judgment. Welcome mat is still out there.

But I gotta warn you (from personal experience) - when somebody thinks you've stepped in it, SHEEEEEEEIT, do they ever let you know.

[Stinky The Clown]

11. I'm so glad you're here to set DU straight.

[Hekate]

13. Goodness. Really? Try reading extensively for awhile...

...and get to know the DU cast of characters.

More importantly, get to know the cast of characters surrounding Trump and the GOP. Comments about the race and appearance of those most favored by Trump are very much to the point -- he is a racist advised by a white nationalist (that's Bannon, in case you didn't know, and Kellyanne). Trump also has proven mob ties going back to the beginning of his business career, both the Italian-American Mafia and the Russian Mafiya. Are we allowed to comment on their ethnicity? They are very much to the point in the narrative.

And when Trump, Bannon, the Mafia and the Mafiya respect my human dignity, then perhaps I will respect theirs.

[peggysue2]

41. Well said!

Just more contentious nonsense wrapped up in righteous indignation to drive the point: the Democratic Party is driving away young, right-minded voters because of their hate and penchant for racial slurring.

Really???

Mob references are not hyperbole because Trump and his cabal not only sound and behave like a criminal organization but Trump has had mob ties for decades (see Felix Sater & The Russian mob). Or check out Trump's fines for money laundering (ahem, financial discrepancies) in Atlantic City. Or read a bit about the Bank of Cyprus and our current Secretary of Commerce's connections or the curious but well-timed saturation of local media markets by the Sinclair Group or

Etc., etc., etc.

The current hire, Mr S. has obviously been brought in as a slick frontman/lieutenant who sounded very much like a Chief-of-Staff this morning on the Sunday News shows. Why the hire? Because it's all about optics and good communications according to the Trumpster devotees. Translation? It's all about putting the right shade of lipstick on the pig.

Of course, if that's considered too negative then I assume that saving our democratic institutions do not rank high on the 'must do' list.

'That would be a Republic, Madame,' Franklin presumably answered a citizen's inquiry. 'If you can keep it, that is.'

That's the moment we've entered whether we like it or not: If we can keep it.

[dalton99a]

61. +1

[ismnotwasm]

16. What the fuck

He's a mobster looking prevaricating asshole who perpetuates the white supremacy myth to the fuckers who voted for Trump. I feel zero need to be gentle or kind about it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

42. I think that DUer did just that. Completely agree.

[greatauntoftriplets]

55. On Friday, he said "Everyone loves Trump"!

That may be the mother of all lies. We're in agreement about Scary-moochy.

[ismnotwasm]

58. Yes indeed

[usedtobedemgurl]

19. Win hearts and minds?

The other day an article was posted here about what Trump would have to do to lose his supporters and basically the answer is nothing. They may have doubts but they said they will vote for him again. Yes, even after the terrible mess he has put us in after only six months, and even after we find out there are many Russian connections, they love him! They will not be swayed. They will not join hands with us. There is absolutely nothing we can do to win them over.

Now if you want to change things, figure out how to do away with free speech, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, etc....These folks have had their brain rotted by that junk. They believe it. Hell, we see what happens when they believe it because the highest ranking member of our nation believes it and look at how he sees things. He listens to their faux information and then acts on it as if it were the truth. He has mounds of intelligence at his disposal and he could very well check it out and see what the truth is but, instead, he touts places like the enquirer and he goes against our intelligence.

If one of the brain washed many of right wing news and conspiracies cannot see the truth when he has it all at his beck and call, how do you get to the regular brainwashed masses when they thing he is the best ever and they are the reason Forbes says we may end up with two terms of this ignoramus if he does not flee or get arrested first!

By the way, the whole doing away with the free speech thing was not put forth as a serious gesture. You just have to say that or some folks will take you literally.

[Drahthaardogs]

22. The rule at DU is if you have an Italian surname

You are automatically in the mafia.

It's tolerated and encouraged.

I am about ready to take screen shots and send them to the Sons of Italy Magazine. Maybe when they call DU out for allowing ethnic stereotypes Skinner will tell people it's not tolerated here.

[leftstreet]

24. No. You're talking about Hollywood stereotypes

I'm seeing the Scaramucci 'mob' references to Hollywood's creations.

Corleone. Goodfellas, etc

Those are stereotypes created by Hollywood, not DU.

[Drahthaardogs]

28. Have you not been paying attention?

The whole "mob" bullshit Hollywood or not has been perpetuated for two days

It's no different than how they called Scalia "Fat Tony", even though Antonin never went by Tony.

It's fun to make mafia references to Italian Americans.

Imagine the outrage here if someone did that for everyone with a Muslim name? Hell, say the b-word here and your post will get hidden. Perpetuate an Italian stereotype? All cool on DU.

[leftstreet]

32. You're not wrong, it's just not important

When large groups of Italian Americans band together to fight back against the systemic and cultural sanctioning of rape, murder, incarceration, banishment and disenfranchisement experienced by groups like women and people of color - DU will accommodate that.

Oh wait.

That doesn't happen to Italian Americans simply because Hollywood has stereotyped them

[Stinky The Clown]

46. What are you on about?

If you're unhappy with DU, the proper thing to do is just stop reading and posting.

No need for GBCW post wither. We tend to trash those with much glee.

[Drahthaardogs]

63. I am unhappy with the mob stereotypes perpetuated here

Italians were persecuted heavily in this country and we're not considered white. Italian American prejudice and stereotypes are alive and well and I don't have to fucking like it.

[VermontKevin]

68. I am really okay with not being considered white. Why aren't you?

Seriously. Maybe switch to the decaf espresso.

I'm pretty good with Italian American stereotypes. Why? Because at the end of the day, I may get a lot of ribbing about my hairy back and my New York accent, but I've never faced what every Black person in America has: the danger of being killed because of the color of my skin.

[Drahthaardogs]

69. I am not white. I am of Mediterranean descent.

The largest mass lynching in America was against Sicilian immigrants. Teddy Roosevelt called it a good start

[VermontKevin]

71. 300 Black people died in Greenwood. Are you trying to claim New Orleans was worse for Sicilians?

Just stop.

New Orleans was disgusting. But we don't face that now.

[Drahthaardogs]

72. Not at all, but they did pass a law prohibiting Italian immigration to America

And the ethnic slurs WOuLD NEVER be tolerated on DU against a black man.

It's bullshit. It's racist and it's wrong. The fact that some here defend it is disgusting

[VermontKevin]

73. We don't face that anymore. It just isn't comparable.

You cannot tell me that you've ever had a "Driving While Italian" incident.

I'm not saying it's right. But we are lucky. We get to laugh at Joe Pesci and live pretty freely.

[Drahthaardogs]

74. We don't face that anymore be use people.like MY FATHER fought it

Don't be glib and don't be stupid. People died so we don't have to face it. It's like unions
Let your guard down and see what happens

[VermontKevin]

77. Well, I'm gonna be glib and stupid and go eat. My daughter made eggplant parm.

[Drahthaardogs]

78. And really, do you even speak Italian?

You know they stole our culture from us when we came here right? They used to beat my dad for speaking Italia to his sisters in Catholic school.

Thankfully I still speak and I have been to Italy many summers to visit our family. We did not let them steal our language. Others were not so lucky

[VermontKevin]

86. I speak Siculu. It's what actual Siclia' speak. "Italia?"

Tell your father that I have a suggestion about where to put the "I." If he's true Sicilian, he'll know exactly what that means.

[Drahthaardogs]

88. We are piemontese on Dad's side, Calabrese and piemontese o. Mom's

And I write in Italian a lot, thus auto correct to Italia...

[VermontKevin]

91. Piedmontese? And you talk of Sicilians?

[MiddleClass]

95. Please explain when the lynching of 2 Sicilian prisoners is determined, the largest mass lynching in

America? After 9 other prisoners were shot in New Orleans and 2 known mobsters were not shot after the mob assassination of chief Hennesy? Reports from the day (before the turn-of-the-century, 1891), said the angry mob might have been associates of the 2 unharmed mobsters also in the jail.

I am not a lynching historian, but I think it's a safe bet that 3 African-Americans were probably victims of lynching at the same time.

Complaining about the suspected mob hit, claiming stereotype, is rich

[MiddleClass]

67. Take your threats someplace else

I lived with an Italian girl, her uncle was portrayed in the movie Goodfellas


Yes, she was Italian, no father was not in the mob, yes, her uncles were, went to jail for killing my friend.

Staten Island where I lived, with my old roommate dating big Paulie's goddaughter.

My friends father owned the paving company with the contract for the Staten Island Expressway.

Big Paulie, and now Victoria Gotti lives on Todt Hill, about half a mile from the "wedding scene." Manson in the Godfather. Where I wrecked my Mustang GT convertible in the early nineties.

Sammy "the bull" Gravano lived in the next town over. When I lived in West Brighton Staten Island.

My landlord for years when I was young was… Enough.


Tell your sons of Italy, if they say The Mob doesn't exist, or we can't talk about it, tell them, tell me.

You do know Scara mix is the mobbed up concrete supplier in NYC, and probably supplied Donald Trump with concrete for Trump Tower. I am researching right now the name of the founding owner, what's the chance that name Scara….moochi comes up?

And that comes from a drunken Irish donkey, get over yourself

[gldstwmn]

29. I think this post is offensive to granite. n/t

[Hortensis]

40. It's kinda like POC having license to use words, often lovingly,

they would take as grave insults from others. Because we do not feel a bigoted contempt for these groups we can joke in ways that we ourselves feel would be totally unacceptable from those who are genuinely contemptuous.

Silly to feel a need to explain this to people here, but this is not some nasty 4chan forum. There is an enormous difference.

Liberals, sadly, are not perfect, though, and these days are angry and prone to insulting to a very agitated degree. So perhaps do what all of us do--choose which threads we care to expose ourselves to. For instance, fake news posted here offends me very much, but in this large community there are some who find left-wing lies very pleasing.

[Hortensis]

54. "Low level of discourse," lol. Oh, yeah. Open, free forums are great,

but of course people have different abilities, styles and tastes in discourse as well as everything else. And so many people here! I keep finding new ones I like and then losing them because I can't remember their names.

A lot of people got so nasty and so seemingly addicted to strife during the primary, that I started using the "ignore" function under "My Account" to make it tolerable. Toward the end I'd put hundreds on "ignore." Ponderous to achieve, but it turned DU into a place I wanted to visit, still with a wide range of views but from much better house-trained and more knowledgeable posters.

Another good result was that instead of being seduced into the fray way too often myself, my own level of discourse improved.

[Stinky The Clown]

47. So this is what's been foremost in your thoughts? SO foremost that you joined DU to post this?

Oy.

[Stinky The Clown]

50. Yah

[Stinky The Clown]

75. Trolls, trolls, and more trolls

[Hekate]

14. Right. He's much like Jared and Ivanka in that way: well-polished, well-spoken, attractive...

...just as crooked as their parents, but so pretty that they function as a "beard" of respectability for the Trump Crime Family. Now we add Michael Corleone.

[malaise]

21. Yep

+1,000

[George II]

26. We call him Tommy DiVito from Goodfellas (Joe Pesci)

[MiddleClass]

66. Who is based on a real character, Tommy "2 Guns." Simone

I used to live with his niece.

[Stinky The Clown]

49. Quite a telling thread, here.

[Hekate]

93. Someone here is really looking for the Pity Party, Assimilated White Ethnicity Chapter

And I don't mean Name Removed.

Every group that came in large numbers had a hard time, sometimes viciously hard. Irish, Italians, Jews, and many more -- all of us have an ancestral story, and I am not going to belabor mine.

The big difference between those of European descent and what's loosely called POC these days is that within 2 generations nearly all European-Americans are assimilated and considered White by default. I don't know where that one poster gets his "Italians were not considered white until 1978" shtick. In 1953 my husband and his family left Europe with their religion stamped on their papers; in 1964 they moved from NY to California, and as he told me with amusement in later years, he left New York a Jew and arrived in California an Anglo.

A sense of humor and a sense of proportion help.

[dchill]

51. I think the family name here has gotta be Gotti.

Gotti was stupid. Gotti was real. We're in non-fictionality here.

[TEB]

56. Pence reminds me of the cartoon character on Johnny quest

Race bannon I think it's been decades since I've seen it

[JustAnotherGen]

70. My husband says - Scott Farkus' Toadie

A Christmas Story

/revision/latest?cb=20120131184255

The one on the left is Donald

[CousinIT]

85. I call him the Trump Propaganda Minister n/t

[cadmium]

87. Disgusting line of opposition - bigoted

Trump has hired a lot of folks -- Attacking them for their ethnicity is something the worst of Trumpites do

Scarmucci was head of Skybridge Capital--Lots of Trump hires were wealth managers. Why is Scarmucci's heritage OK to attack?

Do you have a problem with Italian-Americans? Do you think we are all "the mob"

Why not be more direct? -- "He's starting to hire guineas?' "they're all Mafia y'know"

expand that Jews from Goldman were bad, & Bannon the Irishman a drunk. Sessions evil because he is a white southerner???? or because of his policies

Seems from OP -- there's either more distaste for palling around with Italians (inaccurately equated with the Mafia) or just decided bigoted anti-Italian sentiment is acceptable

To his face - Explain that to Dr Anthony Fauci CDC head infectious disease - who has doggedly steered CDC past ?Reagan and interference of Bush2 (diversion resources from infectious disease to bioterrorism). Tell this man responsible for guiding amazing under-appleciated life saving advances in AIDS --thru several hostile administrations. Think he is just an outlier good Italian -- I dare you to praise him and tell him your theory that generally Italian hires are Mafia .

[SharonClark]

94. This thread is sad. I thought that posters on a liberal site wouldn't fall for ethnic stereotypes

but I was wrong.