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applegrove

(118,646 posts)
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:10 PM Jul 2017

Dyslexics like Trump see patterns. They thrive on dynamic reasoning. They see best when

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there is a lot coming at them. They don't retain well in quiet, orderly, sequential situations. They cannot remember much detail until the detail is a part of a larger pattern. That is why Trump hired the Mooch. He wants to go back to the campaign where he can suss out reality from much crazy 3D input and see patterns and be even more Trumplike.

http://www.dyslexicadvantage.org/about-us/the-book-the-dyslexic-advantage/

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Dyslexics like Trump see patterns. They thrive on dynamic reasoning. They see best when (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2017 OP
I think you've given credit where none is due. ret5hd Jul 2017 #1
I'm saying he can't remember anything unless it is repeated again and again. applegrove Jul 2017 #2
That actually is not what dyslexia is. Most recent research indicates that in the 5% of the tblue37 Jul 2017 #14
Dyslexia is a type of perception. The ability to think in 3D. 1/3 of MIT applegrove Jul 2017 #15
No, dyslexia is NOT the ability to think in 3D. It is a perceptual difficulty in recognizing and tblue37 Jul 2017 #16
Like you said the idea of reading didn't exist until the last few hundred applegrove Jul 2017 #17
What research have you read on this topic? nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #18
Numerous places. applegrove Jul 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Jul 2017 #19
Where on earth do you get the idea he's dyslexic? kcr Jul 2017 #3
Dyslexia is a type of brain. Says nothing about someone's intellect. applegrove Jul 2017 #6
Dyslexia is only ever brought up to make fun of someone. Which is what you're doing. Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #7
I am dyslexic. I'm saying Trump is trying to play to his strengths which applegrove Jul 2017 #8
A. There is no proof he's dyslexic. B. Do you genuinely believe Trump has dynamic reasoning skills? Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #10
He sussed out that there were a whole lotta bitter, angry white people applegrove Jul 2017 #11
The lead idiot in a group of idiots is still an idiot. Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #12
I never said that he was not an idiot. And I am not implying any dyslexics applegrove Jul 2017 #13
Trump thrives on dynamic reasoning ? And there is JI7 Jul 2017 #4
This post is deeply offensive to the dyslexic community. Please delete. Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #5
Dyslexia is a type of brain not IQ. Einstein was dyslexic and relative applegrove Jul 2017 #9
You are seriously relating Einstein to Trump?! This is ridiculous. anneboleyn Jul 2017 #21
No. Trump is not Einstein. applegrove Jul 2017 #23
I agree. Very offensive on many levels. I think the OP is confusing ADD and dyslexia as well. anneboleyn Jul 2017 #22
Nope. I'm just saying that what we often see today as disadvantages applegrove Jul 2017 #24

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
2. I'm saying he can't remember anything unless it is repeated again and again.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:35 PM
Jul 2017

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Normally a dyslexic would look at the big picture at the conclusion. Trump thinks only of himself. As dyslexics go he is a bad one because he is so selfish.

tblue37

(65,341 posts)
14. That actually is not what dyslexia is. Most recent research indicates that in the 5% of the
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:09 PM
Jul 2017

population that experience dyslexia, the problem is caused by incomplete migration of neurons in the brain, which makes it difficult to recognize and interpret letters.

Writing has existed for only about 5000 years, which is too little time for it to get burned into our circuitry the way walking and talking are. Therefore, reading and writing, which are very complex skills, are accomplished by repurposing brain functions that evolved for other things.

There are many excellent books that present for non specialists the most recent neuroscience research on reading and dyslexia. Stanislas Dehaene's Reading in the Brain is excellent for the lay reader.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
15. Dyslexia is a type of perception. The ability to think in 3D. 1/3 of MIT
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:27 PM
Jul 2017

and half of NASA are dyslexic. You are right dyslexia existed before writing. It was a scientific, political, business brain that small bands of humans relied on for the big picture and creativity and perception grounded in the concrete patterns and synthesis. I think the numbers of dyslexics are higher. 10% of the population. If you have a very high IQ and are dyslexic you are a genius. I am dyslexic and though no genius is I didn't spin my letters I just memorized words and their sound in two languages. I did not read using phonics at all. There was a view in psychology that everything different was an aberration instead of a potential evolutionary strategy. ADHD is found in hunter gatherer societies to make for excellent hunters as they get board easily and hunt for stimulation. The same with dyslexia. It was good for humans to have a little bit of it sprinkled through the population. Now we don't hunt, we farm, and we have academia to find and share patterns. But for hundreds of thousands of years these were very vital abilities to have in your little group of 100 hunting and gathereing humans.

tblue37

(65,341 posts)
16. No, dyslexia is NOT the ability to think in 3D. It is a perceptual difficulty in recognizing and
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:33 PM
Jul 2017

interpreting texts. There is still a lot to be learned about it and about ways to help dyslexics overcome their difficulties, but a lot is already known.

Neuroscientists use brain imaging to study dyslexia. They also used a variety of controlled experiments to identify the key differences between the way dyslexics and non-dyslexics process texts.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
17. Like you said the idea of reading didn't exist until the last few hundred
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jul 2017

years. Dyslexics still have advantages. Like in politics where Trump, both Bushes, Reagan, Kennedy, Eleanor Roosevelt, Churchill, Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Paul Wellstone were all dyslexic. So too science where Einstein, Darwin, Alexander Grahem Bell, Edison were all dyslexic. And in Business too. All things where dynamic reasoning would be a great benefit. And advantages to dyslexia are 3D thinking, interconnectedness, keeping narratives separate and dynamic reasoning. The 3D looking at things from all angles is why letters spin or rotate in some dyslexics. It is a side effect.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
20. Numerous places.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 10:48 PM
Jul 2017

Read the book I linked to in the original post. The rest of the stuff I have found

on the internet. Or I've lived it. Periodicals.The times they are a changing.

Response to applegrove (Reply #17)

kcr

(15,316 posts)
3. Where on earth do you get the idea he's dyslexic?
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:26 PM
Jul 2017

That's insulting to dyslexics. Dyslexia has nothing to do with being a gigantic asshat. And your assertion that dyslexics have to have things repeated to them over and over again is utter nonsense.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
7. Dyslexia is only ever brought up to make fun of someone. Which is what you're doing.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:43 PM
Jul 2017

You're being incredibly insensitive.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
8. I am dyslexic. I'm saying Trump is trying to play to his strengths which
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jul 2017

is dynamic reasoning. Autistic have tiny mini columns close together in their brains and are good at details. Dyslexics have greater mini columns further apart in their brains and are better a patterns. People on the autism spectrum are good at analysis. Dyslexics are good at synthesis.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
11. He sussed out that there were a whole lotta bitter, angry white people
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:55 PM
Jul 2017

out there and played to them by being anti trade and anti immigration. I'm not saying he is always on top of things but at times he knows how to connect. Nobody else saw that rejection of both parties coming. Looking into a chaotic past to predict stuff about the future is dynamic reasoning. He uses that in business too. Lots of presidents and politicians were/are dyslexic.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
12. The lead idiot in a group of idiots is still an idiot.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:59 PM
Jul 2017

It doesn't take intelligence to do what he's done. It takes a certain worldview and a lot of privilege. Any two-bit moron could be where Trump is if they were born into wealth and influence.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
13. I never said that he was not an idiot. And I am not implying any dyslexics
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:00 PM
Jul 2017

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are idiots like Trump.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
9. Dyslexia is a type of brain not IQ. Einstein was dyslexic and relative
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 08:50 PM
Jul 2017

to his colleagues did not memorize details like his other high IQ colleagues did. It used to frustrate his fellow scientists. So relatively speaking yes dyslexics are not detailed oriented.

applegrove

(118,646 posts)
24. Nope. I'm just saying that what we often see today as disadvantages
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 11:52 PM
Jul 2017

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were once advantages and can be seen that way again. AS we find out more about the brain.

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