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Botany

(70,445 posts)
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 10:56 AM Jul 2017

A must read 7/23/17 Wisconsin State Journal .... Evidence of republicans rigging the state

Democrats' short-lived 2012 recall victory led to key evidence in partisan gerrymandering case


http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/democrats-short-lived-recall-victory-led-to-key-evidence-in/article_d5cfb956-6e93-5c81-8403-050493b5412e.html


Lawyers representing the plaintiffs in the case, Gill v. Whitford, say the short-lived majority allowed Democrats to force the Legislature's private lawyers to cough up documents, leading to a court-ordered release of computer hard drives with deleted spreadsheets.

The story, pieced together from court documents and new interviews, of how an otherwise meaningless transfer of power could potentially overturn the centuries-old practice of political gerrymandering in the United States is a reminder that in politics even the little victories matter.

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Among the documents were the secrecy pledges Republican senators signed to review their district maps, strict rules for anyone entering the map room and talking points about the significance of the redrawn maps. There was also a print-out of a spreadsheet showing the partisan effect of the final map, but Earle said the document only told a partial story.

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Forensic investigator Mark Lanterman, a former U.S. Secret Service official, testified that his review of the hard drives found evidence that hundreds of thousands of files had been deleted — many in the week before the files were turned over to Miller's office.

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A must read 7/23/17 Wisconsin State Journal .... Evidence of republicans rigging the state (Original Post) Botany Jul 2017 OP
Priebus, Walker and Ryan malaise Jul 2017 #1
Russ Feingold was @ 90% chance of winning his senate seat back. Botany Jul 2017 #2
I remember that mess well malaise Jul 2017 #5
This will only increase as elections come and go and these old white guys have Dustlawyer Jul 2017 #31
The Wisconsin Mafia dalton99a Jul 2017 #10
+1,000 malaise Jul 2017 #11
Link this directly, Russia, and the 2016 election: Both the Trump and Rob Johnson campaigns Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #3
Russia was into WI @ the county level Botany Jul 2017 #4
+1,000 malaise Jul 2017 #7
Democrats are disturbingly quiet about all the election fraud LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #24
Kick Kick Kick - fucking scum jpak Jul 2017 #6
gerrymande(R)ing. Republicans gamed sigs on petitions to evict the governer. Republicans cheat&lie. Sunlei Jul 2017 #8
How and who would reconstruct the files? BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #27
Out and out criminal behavior. gademocrat7 Jul 2017 #9
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jul 2017 #12
When Trump lost Wisconsin primary, Roger Stone said Walker has rigged 5 Wisconsin elections MrPurple Jul 2017 #13
the twitter exchange frames issue incorrectly -- it's not whether no evidence of machine rigging diva77 Jul 2017 #18
Very likely so. Milwaukee was Walker's political domain. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #33
Deleting hundreds of thousands of files in week before they were turned over? lostnfound Jul 2017 #14
The US FEDERAL election system is a disgrace. Its in the hands of states and is a mess. BSdetect Jul 2017 #15
BS, while I agree with you to a certain extent, the fact that the system allowed this evidence to be Nitram Jul 2017 #17
Wow! this is exactly what we needed right now, with anti-gerrymandering cases being built in Nitram Jul 2017 #16
Don't worry about hundreds of thousands of deleted files! Stonepounder Jul 2017 #19
GOP has to game the system and our votes to win. bronxiteforever Jul 2017 #20
Conspiracy to commit treason.. LOCK'EM UP !!!!! vkkv Jul 2017 #21
Extremely importation. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #22
Wake up America. oasis Jul 2017 #23
When you can't win on the merits of your policies, cheat. CrispyQ Jul 2017 #25
Our Elections Are A Joke colsohlibgal Jul 2017 #26
Bump this up JDC Jul 2017 #28
Wow that was an amazing article Egnever Jul 2017 #29
This is what defines the Republican party.... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #30
Read the great Book RAT F*CKED, pretty much explains why this country is basically F*CKED turbinetree Jul 2017 #32

Botany

(70,445 posts)
2. Russ Feingold was @ 90% chance of winning his senate seat back.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jul 2017

Not only gerrymandering but out and out manipulation of the vote too.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
31. This will only increase as elections come and go and these old white guys have
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 08:00 AM
Jul 2017

their chances reduced to nothing without cheating. TPTB want to keep control over our government so they can keep shoving 12% approval bills down our throats!

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
3. Link this directly, Russia, and the 2016 election: Both the Trump and Rob Johnson campaigns
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jul 2017

And have EVERY DEMOCRATIC talk about nothing else; not score political points, but to save our Democracy.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
24. Democrats are disturbingly quiet about all the election fraud
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:47 PM
Jul 2017

Hackable voting machines as well

Now the Trumpublicans have their yesman and a majority back in the SCOTUS just in time for a ruling on this.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. gerrymande(R)ing. Republicans gamed sigs on petitions to evict the governer. Republicans cheat&lie.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 11:10 AM
Jul 2017
reconstruct those deleted files! bring all those fraudsters to the Courts!

MrPurple

(985 posts)
13. When Trump lost Wisconsin primary, Roger Stone said Walker has rigged 5 Wisconsin elections
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jul 2017
https://www.wpr.org/former-trump-advisor-scott-walker-has-rigged-5-elections

Stone isn't the most reliable source for anything, but he knows dirty tricks.

diva77

(7,629 posts)
18. the twitter exchange frames issue incorrectly -- it's not whether no evidence of machine rigging
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:57 PM
Jul 2017

has been found; rather the issue is that the voting machines cannot guarantee that votes are being counted as cast.

The machines do not meet the burden of proof that they cannot be rigged or hacked.

lostnfound

(16,162 posts)
14. Deleting hundreds of thousands of files in week before they were turned over?
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

Isn't that in itself criminal behavior? I don't understand why there should be a secret deal that allows them off the hook for deleting evidence.

BSdetect

(8,994 posts)
15. The US FEDERAL election system is a disgrace. Its in the hands of states and is a mess.
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

This is no shining example of democracy.

Nitram

(22,759 posts)
17. BS, while I agree with you to a certain extent, the fact that the system allowed this evidence to be
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:47 PM
Jul 2017

gathered and presented in court means the democratic system is working. This could be the straw that broke the Gerrymander's back.

Nitram

(22,759 posts)
16. Wow! this is exactly what we needed right now, with anti-gerrymandering cases being built in
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jul 2017

numerous red states. This will be a game-changer because it is solid and irrefutable proof that detracts were drawn with only political power in mind. We've long known that to be the case, but courts need proof. Now we have it in spades.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
26. Our Elections Are A Joke
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:13 PM
Jul 2017

Hackable machines, gerrymandering, republicans just throwing away provisional votes, CrossCheck. Also in poorer neighborhoods maybe just one rickety old machine, hence long lines that time some folks out. Cushy middle and upper class suburbs have plenty of newer, working machines.

When, oh when will democrats go after this hard?

SergeStorms

(19,177 posts)
30. This is what defines the Republican party....
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 10:04 PM
Jul 2017

they're bullies, liars, cheaters, and CAN'T WIN ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD!

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
32. Read the great Book RAT F*CKED, pretty much explains why this country is basically F*CKED
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:10 AM
Jul 2017

But 53 minutes pretty explains it.............

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