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When is Trump going to sign Russia Sanctions Bill ? (Original Post) JI7 Jul 2017 OP
If he signs, it will be when he's alone. Warpy Jul 2017 #1
He has ten days if Congress is in session. If it isn't, a pocket veto occurs: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2
did the 10 days already start ? JI7 Jul 2017 #3
I think so - looks like the time starts when the bill is passed. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #4
They have to be in recess for a pocket veto. tammywammy Jul 2017 #8
so if he doesn't sign or veto, it becomes law ? JI7 Jul 2017 #10
Scratch that II rpannier Jul 2017 #11
Yes. n/t tammywammy Jul 2017 #14
Yup. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #13
I'll believe it .... LenaBaby61 Jul 2017 #5
Also why no big grandiose press event to celebrate the signing? flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #6
He has until August 8 tammywammy Jul 2017 #7
Does it matter if the House is in recess? Adsos Letter Jul 2017 #15
It's a game: they are trying to make it look like Trump and the GOP are innocent C Moon Jul 2017 #9
Vlad is assuming it's a done deal. Duppers Jul 2017 #12
He's gotta dot all the i's and cross all the pees. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #16

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
1. If he signs, it will be when he's alone.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:36 AM
Jul 2017

He won't want anyone around to watch a defeat. Or he'll do a pocket veto, delaying the inevitable override. Well, if anybody tells him there is such a thing as a pocket veto.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
2. He has ten days if Congress is in session. If it isn't, a pocket veto occurs:
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:46 AM
Jul 2017
The Constitution limits the president's period for decision on whether to sign or return any legislation to ten days (not including Sundays) while the United States Congress is in session. A return veto happens when the president sends a bill, along with his objections, back to the house of Congress from which it originated. Congress can override the veto by a two-thirds vote of both chambers, whereupon the bill becomes law. If Congress prevents the bill's return by being adjourned during the 10-day period, and the president does not sign the bill, a "pocket veto" occurs and the bill does not become law. Congress can adjourn and designate an agent to receive veto messages and other communications so that a pocket veto cannot happen, an action Congresses have routinely taken for decades. If a bill is pocket vetoed while Congress is out of session, the only way for Congress to circumvent the pocket veto is to reintroduce the legislation as a new bill, pass it through both chambers, and present it to the President again for signature.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_veto

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
11. Scratch that II
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 03:01 AM
Jul 2017

If a president fails to return a bill in 10 days without signing it, the bill becomes law. Sunday is excluded when counting the 10 days, and the 10-day period has to take place while Congress is in session

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
6. Also why no big grandiose press event to celebrate the signing?
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:14 AM
Jul 2017

He LOVES to sign things and show off his signature...why, what's taking so long, Conald? Camera shy all of a sudden?

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
7. He has until August 8
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 01:43 AM
Jul 2017

It's 10 days not including Sundays. August 8 includes the day it was sent to him (July 28).

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/3364

There won't be a pocket veto, the Senate won't be going into recess.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
15. Does it matter if the House is in recess?
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jul 2017

Don't both the Senate and House have to vote to overturn a veto?

I keep thinking all of the White House circus is designed to take all eyes off of the fact that Trump has yet to sign the sanctions bill.

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