Hope Susan Sarandon,Danny Glover and other

[helpisontheway]

celebrities that claimed Hillary was not any better than Trump are happy. I hope they understand that they are part of the reason that he is president now.

[BigmanPigman]

1. Susan will never admit it.

[bhusar]

2. They won't, and Oliver Stone....

Just said Trump is not the problem, deep state is.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/oliver-stone-charlottesville-trump-deep-state-is-bigger-problem-1029799

[Tommy_Carcetti]

6. Unfortunately, I think Stone has been heavily corrupted by Russia.

I still like his movies but at this point I have to wonder if Putin has some kompromat on him.

[raven mad]

9. Stone has been a certifiable since way, way, way before now.

How he BUTCHERED so many movies, and people still go to see them is beyond me.

Sarandon? VERY disappointed in her.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

12. I still enjoy many of Sarandon's roles.

But she's a naïve fool when it comes to politics.

[raven mad]

13. Not sure if it's naivete or greed.

I loved her in Thelma & Louise, and several others. Dead Man Walking was iconic - and she's always been a supporter of human rights. So what changed? $$ or <<duh, he's so cute>> or onset of Alzheimer's?

[WhiteTara]

21. She's in Ray Donovan and

it has kind of taken the shine off it for me.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

35. I can still seperate her work to enjoy her roles.

I will admit that I have a hard time enjoying the Dilbert cartoon anymore, even though I once did.

[Downtown Hound]

62. I used to really like Stone

But he jumped the shark a long time ago.

[Blue_Tires]

3. Sarandon was more than that, she was a

"WE MUST BURN DOWN THE PARTY TO SAVE IT, AND TRUMP WILL BE OUR NAPALM!" -type... Luckily for her, she's wealthy enough to live 'above' Trump's most odious policies...

But I'm more concerned about the supposed leftist writers and pundits who seem hellbent on fucking us in 2018, too

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. It's obvious they didn't care then, and most likely they still don't. Their wealth insulates them...

to a degree that the rest of us aren't privy to.

[hrmjustin]

5. they saw the Nazis at the gate and refused to do the right thing.

[ornotna]

7. Is this new? I haven't heard this before.

[NurseJackie]

8. Are you complaining that it's often said? Or encouraging it to be repeated often?

[jalan48]

11. LOL

[m-lekktor]

19. lol nt

[Warren DeMontague]

23. C'mon, man

this shit isn't gonna stir itself!

[ornotna]

50. Lol!

So true.

[Duncan Grant]

61. LOL

[The Blue Flower]

10. People of good will are not the enemy

They made choices you disagree with, but it does no good to smear them here.

[Expecting Rain]

16. Susan Sarandon is not a person of goodwill.

This chaos is what she hoped to achieve as a cynical way of bringing on the revolution.

She's on record saying as much.

These are people of bad will, and they are enemies. No mistake about that.

[helpisontheway]

24. Exactly! Nt

[LenaBaby61]

33. Susan Sarandon is not a person of goodwill.

+ 1,000

[lapucelle]

41. She repeated all the mistakes she made in 2000.

She knew the risks, she knew the stakes, she knew what the result would be, but she did it anyway.

[jrthin]

18. These people are not of good will. Their behavior is proof. nt

[hrmjustin]

22. How does making nice with a woman who saw a Nazi at the gate and refused to stop him...

...do us any good?

[lunamagica]

54. Their choices cause terror, destruction -which is what they wanted. Their choices have caused

and will cause deaths.

It's easy for them to make those choices because they live in ivory towers and don't care that others will suffer.

They deserve all the smearing they get.

[YOHABLO]

14. Hey, the election is over. We all learned some lessons. Let it go. They have a right

to their opinion. I don't vote because of what a so called ''celebrity'' has to say in the first place. I read, I listen, I stay educated on the issues pertinent to the lives of those struggling in a very unequal society.

[lunamagica]

56. And we have right to our opinion. We won't let it go.

[DanTex]

67. Let it go? Really? Are you aware there was just a Nazi rally in Virginia and that the president

of the US just said that some of the Nazis were "fine people"? You want people to let that go?

[StevieM]

15. They were ridiculous but the FBI delivered this election into the hands of the GOP. (eom)

[Chakaconcarne]

17. Jesus.... Let it go already.

I think we got it.

[Ccarmona]

32. Exactly

+1.
If the events of the last four days haven't brought the need to unite to the forefront, then nothing will.

[Podkayne K]

36. Let it go?

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Do you mean let it go like we did concerning the 2000 election when Screwy Suzy and her ilk helped give us the same types who in turn gave us the Robert's Court, a phony war in the middle east, and the rise of ISIS? Just forget about it. It's all in the past. Nothing to learn from this, nothing to really take in and be aware of. Let the perpetrators--or would that be simply traitors--off cause dwelling on it doesn't do any damn good and people are tired of hearing about it.

And with that logic, we can give Cosby a free pass, have a parade for Dylan Roof, and let's forget Charlottesville cause... well that was last Saturday and who wants to dwell on a bunch of "fine neo-Nazi's" who battered several unarmed folks and murdered Heather Heyer oh so many days ago? We've heard enough about that already, haven't we?

It's in the past. People are tired of listening to the same old story. Just delete it like you would a mistake in an email. Disremember because today is today and yesterdays gone and gotta seize the day and dwelling on the past won't help and the Sun will come out tomorrow and tomorrow is another day and the first day of the rest of your life and yadda, yadda, yadda.

And I've reached an ending with no good ending except to paraphrase Walter Cronkite: "And that's the way it is in what formally was America--BUT WE LET IT GO! Circa: Summer 2017.

[Hekate]

45. This

[lunamagica]

55. + a million

[Tarheel_Dem]

60. + 2 million.

[dsc]

69. It is even worse than what you said

because many of the things they complained the most bitterly about were undone and undoable precisely because of the Supreme Court that their last set of antics in this regard got us. Citizens United and the death of the voting rights act to name two huge deals happened entirely because Rehnquist and O'Conner were replaced with Alito and Roberts and not people like Kagan and Sotomayor

[Podkayne K]

70. No Question about it...

but listing all the damage those aholes did to this country would take a book-length manuscript, and the problem is it's only beginning.

Once more, thanks to slimy Susie and her s* ^&t for brains (SFB) legion of unctuous vermin.

[Downtown Hound]

63. Never.

And no, there are quite a few who still haven't gotten it.

[WoonTars]

20. So you think the Neo-Nazis would have just stayed home if Hillary had won?

Interesting...

[solara]

25. It's possible..

but since they have been around for years no matter who was sitting in the WH, they probably would have tested the waters, but I doubt if they would have been so eager to lose their hoods.

[WoonTars]

30. A woman following a black man into "their" Whitehouse?

I highly doubt they'd be quiet...

[Hekate]

46. By the same token, Hillary would not have been quiet, either.POTUS Hillary would never have given...

...aid and comfort to the neo-Nazi enemy.

[solara]

49. Yeah, you're right about that

But without the validation of the WH behind their actions, do you think there would have been a torch lit march such as we witnessed on Fri? Or a crazy violent confrontation with death & injury like Sat? I really don't know. They are emboldened now and may not have been so under Hillary.

No doubt there would be major problems, and probably some of them quite extreme that we cannot even conceive now. Their hatred of Hillary is beyond the norm and would be backed by the House & the Senate, in fact I think we would see a lot more craziness from Congress if Hillary was Pres but I just don't think the nazi/white extremists would be as overt.

[MyOwnPeace]

52. You raise some interesting points....

1. "Their hatred of Hillary is beyond the norm." That was obvious throughout the campaign - a point that I truly could not understand, even to this day. It surely would have continued had she won, just as the planned obstruction of President Obama was carried out by "McTurtle."
2. Since the entire election went crazy with the declared winner taking states that he wasn't expected to take, would that not also apply to other offices? If Hillary had won I have to believe that the Dems would have also maintained control of at least the Senate. So again, how different would today's governmental climate be without a total Repug. house/senate/president program running (destroying) it?

I'm sure we would still see crazies out there, but they wouldn't have the inside track to destroy democracy and great American freedom like they seem to now!

[solara]

53. Geez it is so freaking depressing

just thinking about how different the world would be now, how different OUR world would be now if Hillary had won.

On one hand it's good to know or at least begin to know the true extent of racism and sickness in this country, and though it has been hidden or partially hidden forever, trump's ascendency has allowed the infection to rise to the surface. But on the other hand everything feels so sick and obscene, hopeless and unmanageable.

[liberal N proud]

26. They have been incited and emboldened by the rise of trump.

To the hate groups, the trump inauguration was a signal, a call to action.

I don't think we would have seen the violence, and we most certainly would not have had a president who approved of their actions.

[brush]

27. They weren't running rampant when O was president now were they?

[WoonTars]

28. No that's right. They were all sitting home baking cookies and knitting...

..right?

[brush]

31. Kid about it if you want. Nazis weren't killing people on O's watch. They weren't being emboldened..

enough to pull off nighttime, nazi torch marches and terrifying a campus.

[bdamomma]

47. No they were fuming

because they felt so threatened by women, LGBT, Muslims, Black Lives Matter and Hispanic people anyone of diversity they couldn't handle it, and oh yes an articulate Black man who was intelligent who became President for not one term which our senate majority leader proclaimed and was elected for 2 terms.

They just couldn't handle it and then came along a fucking con artist who used the rallying cry of Make America Great again and here we are. We were played by him and the fucking Russians, Putin is celebrating in the Kremlin over the dismantling of the US. My vent is over.

[lunamagica]

57. I do. Do you honestly think that what's happening now would have happened if Hillary

was POTUS?

Having a racist in the WH has emboldened them. They support trump. They even dress like him. Having him for president has given them carte blanche to openly act on their hatred and racism.

Have you read the tweets by David Duke? Would he feel the same with Hillary as POTUS?

No, this would not be happening if Hillary had been president.

[Downtown Hound]

64. They would not have been so emboldened as to have done this.

And yes, I do believe that will all my heart.

[lark]

29. Anyone, anywhere in the USA who didn't vote or voted for a third party

candidate, in truth put Drumpf in office and promoted violence and killing. I hope their arrogance and blindness get rectified quick before there's another election or we will get the same results.

[oasis]

51. The GOP committed the robbery, the third party drove the getaway car.

Both guilty in the eyes of the law.

[HenryWallace]

37. Still don't get it!

Oh yeah.... She lost because the lack of celebrity endorsements,

and Russian interference,

and FBI dirty tricks,

and Sander's supporters desertion,

and Green Party abandonment,

and ..... well we have the idea!


Given this context, this is really pathetic!

[barbtries]

38. TYT sure ain't going there.

i have to cancel my subscription because they are still blaming hillary for about every bad thing that ever happened and claiming if the world had just listened to them everything would be copacetic now. i'm just practical i swear: there are 2 sides that have a chance of winning, the democratic and the republican.

they want to force a 3rd side and it's utopian thinking in my opinion and not helpful during this incredibly dark time in our country's history.

thank you for posting. i needed to compose my cancellation letter.

[Progressive dog]

39. They're as happy as they've ever been

When the reality of Trump as President didn't shock them out of their smug superiority complexes, they proved that like Trump they are deplorable.

[Honeycombe8]

40. I care deeply about the environment, which is Sarandon's cause, I believe. But no way....

no way would I have ever not voted for the Dem. most likely to win (Hillary), when faced with a close race opposing someone like Trump (or actually, any Republican).

Now if the race was a runaway for Clinton (I mean a HUGE lead 3 days before the election), or if it was truly a huge loss...maybe. But probably not. That makes no sense. If I care about the environment, I will vote for the one who is most likely to protect it, right? Even though neither would do as much as I would want. Because the reality is that one of them is going to win! So if I care about the environment, I'm going to help the one that is better for the environment. Duh.

[lapucelle]

42. How ironic

that the "lesser of two evils" who she worked against in 2000 went on to win the Nobel Peace Prize for environmental activism.

I'm sure in her bizarre revisionist way she takes credit for that:

"See, if I hadn't helped to elect Bush, Al wouldn't have had the free time to work to protect the environment! Beautiful cashmere collection, Italian-made... Thank you! So generous and fun. And it's free for me the celeb-ri-tee!"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512178481

[Honeycombe8]

44. Oh, yeah...I seem to recall she was a Nader-ite. That ticked me off.

I could understand it at first. But when it got down to Bush v Gore, a close call...there was no excuse for voting for Nader, or for him to stay in the race except for ego. Nader would say that Bush and Gore were the same...corporatists, blah blah blah.

No, Nader. They were not the same. That ended Nader's political career.

[JI7]

43. Susan Sarandon supported John Edwards

So it's not even about wanting a more liberal candidate.

[NurseJackie]

65. Apparently his IWR vote didn't matter... yet Hillary's IWR vote mattered.

Sarandon is a hypocrite. Vain and privileged.

Can't stand her.

I hope she... fails in all her future endeavors.

[McCamy Taylor]

48. They are just politically stupid. Not the same as being a Nazi.

I hope they learn from their mistakes.

[lunamagica]

59. No, this is beyond stupid. Wishing for a "spark" for "the revolution", a spark for which the most

vulnerable would pay dearly -while they just watch from their ivory towers, not sacrificing anything- is just evil.

Learn from they mistakes? Sarandon was a Naderite who claimed that Bush and Gore were the same. So much death and destruction came from that. but it didn't affect her, not at all. Instead of learning from her mistake, she doubled-down and fought against Hillary, and said she hoped trump would win.

There is no excuse for them.

[lunamagica]

58. I wish someone would send them pictures of Heather Heyer.

Is that what they wanted?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

68. I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of Molly Ringwald for the loss of The Senate.

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