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Cat 4 just announced by Weather Channel by Jim Cantore..."Good Luck". (Original Post) BigmanPigman Aug 2017 OP
Oh no :/ nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #1
If one person dies or is arrested because of ICE during this I say Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #2
Prayers for Texas RandySF Aug 2017 #3
Al Gore we should have listened Not Ruth Aug 2017 #4
That's just mean to damn these people to deportation or death NightWatcher Aug 2017 #5
I've been through these checkpoints Horse with no Name Aug 2017 #8
Ann Coulter will be thrilled...bitch! BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #10
I agree with you, well said! MLAA Aug 2017 #34
Falfurrias and Sarita were two of the big ones I remember. NightWatcher Aug 2017 #13
I was actually thinking of the one specifically in Falfurrias Horse with no Name Aug 2017 #14
"Harvey has become a Category 4 hurricane with sustained winds of 130 mph" Miles Archer Aug 2017 #6
Effects of a Category 4 hurricane milestogo Aug 2017 #7
Was announced early this am that ICE/Border is not gonna ask for ID dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #9
I just wish that news had gotten out earlier renate Aug 2017 #20
Nope, wants them to keep checking ID's and detaining Stonepounder Aug 2017 #33
Maybe I mis-read dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #39
Thinking of the people in Texas NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #11
The difference in damage from a Cat 1 - Cat 5 hurricane. herding cats Aug 2017 #12
Thank you for posting this. QED Aug 2017 #15
Lord help those poor people down there workinclasszero Aug 2017 #25
Luck won't help here malaise Aug 2017 #16
Did anyone tell the fake prez that before he made his brilliant statement? BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #17
who listens to that idiot? malaise Aug 2017 #18
No one with ears or an IQ in the triple digits. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #19
Ok, they have to bring ellie Aug 2017 #21
So I am missing something here...can one of you please explain how Cat 4 relates to opening border Amaryllis Aug 2017 #22
The flow of traffic and being stranded. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #23
You mean people going back and forth to Mexico? Travelers, etc? Amaryllis Aug 2017 #27
Yeah, see post #14 too. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #28
Seeing more on it now. Hadn't been online since last night. Amaryllis Aug 2017 #30
The border checks are about 50? 100? miles inside the border. Luz Aug 2017 #29
You know interstates? Ever hear of contralateral? GusBob Aug 2017 #36
feeding off the hot water plus historical high atmospheric moisture elmac Aug 2017 #24
Is this related to Houston discouraging evacuations? Not Ruth Aug 2017 #26
Do you know if they ever told them to evacuate? BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #45
They never told them to evacuate, evacuation being more dangerous than the rain in their belief Not Ruth Aug 2017 #46
President Duh Donald will have his very own Hurricane Sandy rocktivity Aug 2017 #31
He'll say he his hurricane was bigger than Obama's. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author MLAA Aug 2017 #35
Stephanie Ruhle is on MSNBC not Fux. She is on in the morning BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #40
Thanks for the correction, I will try and get to the bottom of it. MLAA Aug 2017 #41
FOUND It. It was her, but she was Concerned for the safety of the undocumented. MLAA Aug 2017 #42
The only reason I noticed is because just last week BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #43
I will look for her. I usually just catch Chris , Rachel and Lawrence 🙂 MLAA Aug 2017 #44
Texas Governor Greg Abbott ... rustysgurl Aug 2017 #37
They may not check people seeking shelter... haele Aug 2017 #38

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. If one person dies or is arrested because of ICE during this I say
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:04 PM
Aug 2017

America, all 300 million of us need to be in the streets

If not, then we are not Americans.

Can someone organize this please.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. That's just mean to damn these people to deportation or death
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:11 PM
Aug 2017

It's too late now. I hope they can hunker down and ride it out now.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
8. I've been through these checkpoints
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:13 PM
Aug 2017

they bottleneck into these areas and there isn't any other way out.
I was gobsmacked when I heard they were still open.
Lots of folks will be trapped on those roads with this monster looming.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
14. I was actually thinking of the one specifically in Falfurrias
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:23 PM
Aug 2017

I seem to remember it going down to a single lane....but it has been many years since I have been down that far south.
I was also thinking of the one in Raymondville--it was a little more open but you can't get out of the valley unless you go through it.
Going through these checkpoints all over Texas....you know they always wave through the white people and detain the brown people.
There are MANY legal brown people down that way but they will be stopped and forced to prove that and that will create a huge bottleneck.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
7. Effects of a Category 4 hurricane
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:13 PM
Aug 2017

Category 4 hurricanes tend to produce more extensive curtainwall failures, with some complete structural failure on small residences. Heavy, irreparable damage and near complete destruction of gas station canopies and other wide span overhang type structures are common. Mobile and manufactured homes are often flattened. Most trees, except for the heartiest, are uprooted or snapped, isolating many areas. These storms cause extensive beach erosion, while terrain may be flooded far inland. Total and long-lived electrical and water losses are to be expected, possibly for many weeks.

The 1900 Galveston hurricane, the deadliest natural disaster to hit the United States, peaked at an intensity that corresponds to a modern-day Category 4 storm. Other examples of storms that peaked at Category 4 intensity, and made landfall at that intensity include: Hazel (1954), Gracie (1959), Flora (1963), Cleo (1964), Madeline (1976), Frederic (1979), Joan (1988), Iniki (1992), Luis (1995), Iris (2001), Charley (2004), Dennis (2005), Gustav (2008), Ike (2008) and Joaquin (2015).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir%E2%80%93Simpson_scale

Comparable to the 1900 Galveston hurricane, the deadliest natural disaster to hit the United States.

renate

(13,776 posts)
20. I just wish that news had gotten out earlier
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:43 PM
Aug 2017

It's heartbreaking to think that people might die because of the delay.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
33. Nope, wants them to keep checking ID's and detaining
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:27 PM
Aug 2017
http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/25/border-patrol-will-keep-checkpoints-open

Border Patrol Will Keep Checkpoints Open During Hurricane Harvey

Because the important thing during a hurricane is making sure evacuees aren't undocumented immigrants.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) announced it will keep open interior border checkpoints in the path of Hurricane Harvey, drawing condemnation from civil liberties and immigration groups.

"Border Patrol checkpoints will not be closed unless there is a danger to the safety of the traveling public and our agents," CBP said in a statement to the Texas Tribune yesterday. "Border Patrol resources, including personnel and transportation, will be deployed on an as needed basis to augment the efforts and capabilities of local-response authorities."

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
39. Maybe I mis-read
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:18 AM
Aug 2017

or there is conflicting orders, hopefully.
Cannot believe this shit..it really did not take much for so much inhumanity to arise....

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
12. The difference in damage from a Cat 1 - Cat 5 hurricane.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:16 PM
Aug 2017
https://m.


We're not just looking at massive damage from flooding and storm surge anymore.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
22. So I am missing something here...can one of you please explain how Cat 4 relates to opening border
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:26 PM
Aug 2017

checkpoints?

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
30. Seeing more on it now. Hadn't been online since last night.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:11 PM
Aug 2017

Unbelievable what has happened in less than 24 hours.

Luz

(772 posts)
29. The border checks are about 50? 100? miles inside the border.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:07 PM
Aug 2017

Only a few highways come out of south texas, and you must pass one. Fear is that anyone living in texas, but south of the border checks won't chance going thru it.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
36. You know interstates? Ever hear of contralateral?
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:01 PM
Aug 2017

When a monster storm comes BOTH SIDES of the interstate go one way.

Contra-fucking-lateral

You don't stop traffic for shit getting out

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
24. feeding off the hot water plus historical high atmospheric moisture
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:34 PM
Aug 2017

got a bad feeling about this one, its not going to end well.

Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
40. Stephanie Ruhle is on MSNBC not Fux. She is on in the morning
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:30 AM
Aug 2017

with Ali Velshi and she is really good and anti-45. You must be thinking of another anchor.

MLAA

(17,327 posts)
42. FOUND It. It was her, but she was Concerned for the safety of the undocumented.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:52 AM
Aug 2017

I was wrong, she was NOT suggesting they shouldn't be allowed. I deleted my erroneous post.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
43. The only reason I noticed is because just last week
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 12:56 AM
Aug 2017

I was telling my sister how good she is and she never let's pro-45 people get away with anything ever.

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
37. Texas Governor Greg Abbott ...
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:03 PM
Aug 2017

when asked during a news conference if credentials were going to be checked at evacuation centers, said (and I paraphrase here), No, our main priority is saving lives, not turning people in.

I was very surprised at his response.

haele

(12,676 posts)
38. They may not check people seeking shelter...
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:49 PM
Aug 2017

But I'd bet the State is going to have troopers check people before they leave just before the disaster is over...

Haele

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