The GOP deserves not defense but extinction (WP)

[dalton99a]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/09/04/trump-ending-daca-would-be-cruelty-wrapped-in-a-web-of-lies/

Ending DACA would be Trump’s most evil act
By Jennifer Rubin | September 4 at 9:45 AM

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No, if Trump cancels DACA, it will be one more attempt to endear himself to his shrinking base with the only thing that truly energizes the dead-enders: vengeance fueled by white grievance. And it will also be an act of uncommon cowardice. (“Should Trump move forward with this decision, he would effectively be buying time and punting responsibility to Congress to determine the fate of the Dreamers,” writes The Post.) Dumping it into the lap of the hapless Congress, he can try evading responsibility for the deportation of nearly 800,000 young people who were brought here as children, 91 percent of whom are working. (And if by chance Congress should save DACA, it will be Trump who is the villain and they the saviors, an odd political choice for a president who cares not one wit about the party.)

As for Congress, House Speaker Paul Ryan, who talks about sparing the dreamers, will be sorely tested to overcome the objections of the hard-line anti-immigrant voices in his conference. Does he have the nerve to bring to the floor a bill that lacks majority support among Republicans? Tie it to a must-pass bill (e.g., Harvey funding, the debt ceiling, funding for the government)? In the Senate, will opportunistic right-wingers such as Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) grandstand, perhaps filibustering a measure into order to out-Trump Trump?

However this turns out, the GOP under Trump has defined itself as the white grievance party — bluntly, a party fueled by concocted white resentment aimed at minorities. Of all the actions Trump has taken, none has been as cruel, thoughtless or divisive as deporting hundreds of thousands of young people who’ve done nothing but go to school, work hard and present themselves to the government.

The party of Lincoln has become the party of Charlottesville, Arpaio, DACA repeal and the Muslim ban. Embodying the very worst sentiments and driven by irrational anger, it deserves not defense but extinction.

[MFM008]

1. Now we see WHY

The GOP says nothing about maggot and his policies.
This is their finest hour......

[atreides1]

2. You know what?

These editorials need to quit being nice...those are not "hard-line anti-immigrant voices", those are the voices of white nationalists!!!

If white nationalists isn't harsh enough, then white supremacists...it's what they are, make them wear that label!!!

[SHRED]

5. Exactly

The GOP is the White Nationalist Party.

[dchill]

13. I know. They just don't want us to say it.

Or even think it. Problem is, I've known them all my life.

[uponit7771]

8. +1

[Initech]

20. The GOP is the new Nazi Party, let's forever make them wear that label!

[Solly Mack]

37. Yes!

[Baitball Blogger]

3. Gerrymanded into a racist agenda.

How do we fix this? This is time that none of us will ever get back.

[Not Ruth]

4. Will Antifa defend the dreamers?

[AllyCat]

14. Why do you ask? Aren't all of us against fascism

antifa? We are vocally and some physically protesting these policies.

[Not Ruth]

16. I have seen many different descriptions of Antifa on DU

From thugs to protectors of the weak. But mostly right wing provocateurs. So let's see which turns out to be correct.

[AllyCat]

18. Keep an eye on that and let us know with sources

How that all unfolds.

[Not Ruth]

21. Here is street gang

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029553878

[AllyCat]

22. Not Ruth, we ALL should be Antifa.

Yes, there are some bad actors out there who commit violence and property damage. The rest of us are fighting fascism and trying to make a dent without those things. Keep pushing your Antifa is bad meme though. You might find a happy place with folks much more right than those here.

[Not Ruth]

29. You specifically asked me to keep an eye on it and link sources, and I linked from a thread

[AllyCat]

30. You have specifically picked out ONE example

with a quote from a city mayor hoping to make Antifa look "bad". How about all those counter-protesters in Charlottesville or OWS or the Women's March? Those are also Antifa. Who committed the majority if not all of the crimes?

[Not Ruth]

31. I will post more links from DU over the next few months, that happened to be the first one I saw

If you have DU links to the rest, feel free to post them. I do not know how to search DU.

[Expecting Rain]

35. I think the Bernie Sanders-endorsed Mayor of Berkeley, Mayor Jesse Arreguin...

has a pretty clear grasp of what he's dealing with in his community with Antifa.

He is calling on Antifa to be named a criminal gang under California law and that they are subject to enhanced prosecution.

When the progressive Mayor of arguably the nation's most liberal city condemns Antifa as a criminal gang and calls on progressive forces to stop giving these violent extremists political cover, why don't people listen???

Antifa hurts our cause. They are a "major gift to the right-wing," as Noam Chomsky rightly said.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

24. Word abuse. Should be illegal.

Several good English words suffering from right-wing abuse should be eligible for therapy. Like these: conservative, welfare, freedom, liberal, etc.

[Chakaconcarne]

6. he won't end daca.

[AllyCat]

34. Want some ketchup to go with that crow?

[pnwmom]

7. And note who wrote this: the conservative writer Jennifer Rubin.

Why is it that only the Rethugs outside of Congress are speaking out?

[BigOleDummy]

11. Because .........

Ms. Rubin and others like her give them "cover" for a comeback when the repuglican agenda collapses. "Oh, well those traitors and panderers weren't REALLY republicans/conservatives you know".

Or it could be that they're all spineless gutless slaves to the top 5% or so of "us", eager to lap at the trough of the Koch Bros et al. to further their political ends, I guess.

[SCVDem]

9. Living in So. Cal. it's easy to have many diverse friends.

In a bar the other day a guy asks me why I care since I'm obviously white.

Is there any better time to recite the lines:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) was a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.


Today I stand with you!

[KY_EnviroGuy]

25. Thanks for posting that.

One of a number of passages we all should read periodically as a "reset". All too easy to forget!

[randr]

10. The Red Party as they have chosen to be labled

Anyone one remember the saying--"better dead than red"?

[DFW]

12. Rubin is exception to the rule

She was/is a charter member of the I-Hate-Hillary crowd, and it is conspicuous to note that for all her derision of Trump, even she can't quite bring herself to say that voting for the Republican ticket in the last election was the absolutely WORST decision a citizen (of ANY persuasion to the left of NSDAP admirers) could have made last year.

[FakeNoose]

19. Does she "not see"?

[smirkymonkey]

15. K&R

There is no question. This was an act of pure spite and evil on the part of Trump. May he burn in hell.

[mcar]

17. And this is by a conservative!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

23. They have just gained voters by their hateful propaganda, gerrymandering and cheating. Prob.

colluding with Russians and other foreign entities. First, they won over evangelicals by their ramping up on the abortion issue, then the racists by their hatefulness.

[sharedvalues]

28. Yup, and the hate has been going on for 40+ years.

[enki23]

26. Republicans in congress want something they can use to run against Trump in the midterms

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[sharedvalues]

27. Wrong. The party of Nixon, Reagan, Atwater, GWB and Rove

..."has become the party of Charlottesville, Arpaio, DACA repeal and the Muslim ban. "

The GOP likes to paint themselves as the party of Lincoln. But that distorts history. A century and a half ago the GOP was anti-racism. But starting in 1964 when LBJ kicked racists out of the Democratic party by embracing the Civil Rights act , the GOP became the party of white racism. And it just got worse over time.

Nixon courted those racists, as did Reagan, and Rove, and GWB. The only difference between them and DJT is that DJT didn't use dog whistles.


It's incorrect to pretend the GOP has gone through some huge transformation to become the party of hate. For the past 40 years they have used hate to chase votes.

[JHan]

32. Exactly.. the Republicans went down this route when they embraced Atwater's strategies.

[TrogL]

33. It's already having an effect

Spousal abuse is going unreported because people are unwilling to approach authorities for fear of deportation.

I was listening to the Michael Smerconish program on Sirius XM. He had a Dreamer on who had dutifully reported in under DACA. He runs a business with 15 employees, his parents are on the road to citizenship, his brother married in but he's left out in the cold.

The point he made is having been burnt once he will never trust the government again we're a similar program be offered. He willingly gave his information and now its being used against him.

[diane in sf]

36. Maybe, lets see what evil shit he comes up with next week.

[clu]

38. devils advocate

as reprehensible as most RW policies are, they would serve as an effective stopgap if we had democratic control over each branch of government.

-the planet's resources are finite.
-there are too many people on earth.
-ultimately, family planning may be necessary for some countries.
-the availability of food has resulted in a population that isn't really sustainable.

watch a NOVA PBS documentary and tell me that housing is a right. every other animal on earth has to fight for resources since their life depends on it. I don't want a large-scale culling, but there is a meritocracy among people and those who work harder deserve to be rewarded for it. evolution stems from competition in a population and I think it's served us well. I am very far to the left but I hate to say that $15/hr is a little too high for minimum wage - $12 is a little more realistic.