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Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:49 PM Sep 2017

Utah hospital bars police contact with nurses after "appalling" arrest

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/04/utah-hospital-bars-cops-from-contact-with-nurses-after-appalling-arrest/
"........Gordon Crabtree, interim chief executive of the hospital, said at a Monday news conference that he was "deeply troubled" by the arrest and manhandling of burn unit nurse Alex Wubbels on July 26. In accord with hospital policy and the law, she had refused to allow a Salt Lake City police officer to take a blood sample from an unconscious patient. Wubbels obtained a copy of the body cam video of the confrontation and, after consulting her lawyer, the hospital and police officials, released it last week.

"This will not happen again," Crabtree said, praising Wubbels for "putting her own safety at risk" to "protect the rights of patients."

Margaret Pearce, chief nursing officer for the University of Utah hospital system, said she was "appalled" by the officer's actions and has already implemented changes in hospital protocol to avoid any repetition.

She said police will no longer be permitted in patient-care areas, such as the burn unit where Wubbels was the charge nurse on the day of the incident.

In addition, officers will have to deal with "house supervisors" instead of nurses when they have a request.

This will guarantee that nurses devote themselves entirely to patient care without interruptions, she said, while other officials deal with police requests"....(more)



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Utah hospital bars police contact with nurses after "appalling" arrest (Original Post) Tanuki Sep 2017 OP
This is an excellent outcome. I am very pleased to read it. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2017 #1
Agree... bobGandolf Sep 2017 #19
Until they dicipline their cowardly University Police, it doesn't matter. NutmegYankee Sep 2017 #2
good point Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #4
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2017 #13
I did a little stint as a security guard once, yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2017 #20
House supervisors: "To serve and protect us from the police." nt Binkie The Clown Sep 2017 #3
The police will now have to deal with a situation of their own making. lpbk2713 Sep 2017 #5
I wonder if the offending pig still has his part time job transporting patients. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #6
Should not have been allowed to become a cop. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #11
Hear hear! defacto7 Sep 2017 #7
This should be the rule everywhere. Nurses need to be left alone to do there jobs. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #8
Meanwhile haydukelives Sep 2017 #9
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2017 #14
EXCELLENT! I really like the idea that they have to deal with someone besides the nurses. demigoddess Sep 2017 #10
This is a very sensible decision. Denzil_DC Sep 2017 #12
The police action, among other things, left the burn unit understaffed, Tanuki Sep 2017 #15
So he got away with it? Totally scot-free? A slap on the wrist? NurseJackie Sep 2017 #16
I don't read that as she doesn't sue wryter2000 Sep 2017 #21
I'd seen it elsewhere. Just expressing my frustration again here... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #22
Okay wryter2000 Sep 2017 #24
I will always wonder ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #17
Yep. Or if there was no video dalton99a Sep 2017 #18
The Nurse needs to sue. I sure would like to see the radio and text conversations discovered. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #23

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,599 posts)
1. This is an excellent outcome. I am very pleased to read it.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:55 PM
Sep 2017

It was extremely unfortunate that the incident happened, but at least the hospital Chief Nursing Officer is taking the entirely appropriate steps to see that such an outrage will never again happen.

K&R

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
2. Until they dicipline their cowardly University Police, it doesn't matter.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:59 PM
Sep 2017

University Police and Hospital Security just stood there and did not intervene in an assault on one of the very people they were supposed to protect. Those men need to be identified as well.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
20. I did a little stint as a security guard once,
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:15 AM
Sep 2017

the police are the biggest offenders, they think they are privileged characters.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
5. The police will now have to deal with a situation of their own making.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:14 AM
Sep 2017



And I am delighted with the hospital's decision to stand behind Nurse Wubbels.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
6. I wonder if the offending pig still has his part time job transporting patients.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:22 AM
Sep 2017

He said, on video, he was going to punish the hospital by bringing them transients and sending "good ones" elsewhere.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
11. Should not have been allowed to become a cop.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:04 AM
Sep 2017

People of that mentality and disposition should not be allowed to become public servants. Proper pre-employment screening should prevent it in the public interest.

For that matter, I can't think of any profession where ego-driven bullies are appropriate.

Mesin bin sober, too!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
8. This should be the rule everywhere. Nurses need to be left alone to do there jobs.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:41 AM
Sep 2017

Our lives depend on it.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
10. EXCELLENT! I really like the idea that they have to deal with someone besides the nurses.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:01 AM
Sep 2017

and hopefully these "house supervisors" will be or have lawyers with them. Let the cops deal with lawyers.

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
12. This is a very sensible decision.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:28 AM
Sep 2017

He wasted valuable nursing time with unreasonable and illegal demands, then took her totally away from her duties for no good reason.

The way that bullying thug hauled her around, it's sheer luck she didn't suffer a serious injury herself.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
15. The police action, among other things, left the burn unit understaffed,
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:55 AM
Sep 2017

and as you say, for no reason at all other than the cop's personal and pathological impulse to punish and control a woman who stood up for a patient's legal rights. Sick and injured patients deserve better and don't need that kind of police-involved drama and disruption of care.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. So he got away with it? Totally scot-free? A slap on the wrist?
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:58 AM
Sep 2017


It was a mistake to not sue. Even if she didn't want to personally benefit from it, she could have donated the money to the burn center.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
21. I don't read that as she doesn't sue
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:57 PM
Sep 2017

It's just the hospital administration changing protocol. She can still sue. I'm not sure the hospital has grounds to sue.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. I'd seen it elsewhere. Just expressing my frustration again here...
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:59 PM
Sep 2017

... and second-guessing what her intentions (or hopes) may have been.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
17. I will always wonder
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:59 AM
Sep 2017

What would have happened if she had been an African American male? What actually happened was bad enough.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
23. The Nurse needs to sue. I sure would like to see the radio and text conversations discovered.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:04 PM
Sep 2017

If they were trying to get blood to cover their own or their fellow cop's asses, that needs to come out and heads should roll.

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