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(90,335 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)You tell her Cher.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Glorfindel
(9,729 posts)underpants
(182,788 posts)if she could turn back time
sandensea
(21,627 posts)They must pay her by the tweet, and to have abstained from doing so on news like this might have meant the termination of her contract.
MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)Gypsies, tramps, and Thieves.
underpants
(182,788 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)--please don't demonize gypsies, otherwise known as the Romani people.
They have dealt with so much prejudice and exclusion for nearly a thousand years and are among the original immigrants. Not to mention that Hitler sent them to camps in a genocide. And in other parts of Europe there was forced sterilization.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)When some one says something racist you don't remain silent for the sake of the joke. Hasn't there been enough of that?
I presume that in equating gypsies, an entire ethic and cultural group, with thieves and tramps, the poster just didn't know.
But learning is a beautiful thing.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)It's written from the perspective of a young woman whose family has been labeled with those epithets . Plus it's probably at least forty years old. I'm sure the poster meant no disrespect, even if some would find the attempt at humor in questionable taste. Your assumption was unfair to the poster. Learning IS a beautiful thing..Leaping in without all the facts is a poor habit that needs to be UNlearned.
zentrum
(9,865 posts).....that you're defending a poster who equated an ethnic group with thieves and tramps.
Try substituting the word "jews", or "black people" and see if the post still works for.
If yes, (because you are light hearted about Cher), then as I said, I'll let your words speak for themselves.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)The poster was NOT equating Gypsies with tramps and thieves, but was only quoting a song title, with no offense to Gypsies intended. You have a right to take offense at the song if you like disregarding the actual words. In 1971 it was a number 1 hit and nominated for a Grammy. Your gripe should be with her and writer Bob Stone. Now you have to check out Cher's other "offensive" hit, "Half Breed." She sort of had a theme going with her exotic looks.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)If you saw I did not know the song, and did not know it was an exact title, why scold me for not knowing something from 46 years ago, instead of just offering the information--- without being cryptic or having an attitude from the get go?
I got it now. Wonder how a real life Romani would feel, however, now in 2017. Doubt Cher would get a pass today with her "exotic theme" given she didn't have to walk the walk as a real Native American. Brings Rachel Dolezal to mind. But, oh well.
Have a nice day.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)She shot her down.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Also great how others got it and ran with it.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,422 posts)Interesting, Brenda Webb's account just went private
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)For someone who doesn't like politics, I will bet she is a Repub (loud and proud). I do know what else shipping is...a hypocrite, therefore she must be a Repub.
spanone
(135,830 posts)Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)I know that if she or any of her friends need it to come over. I specifically told her that people can "hide" here is any agency is giving them a hard time.
I am sure Cher has a lot of property that isn't being used. She probably has bathhouses big enough for a family of 5
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)You go, girl!!!!!!
Warpy
(111,254 posts)and I urge all business owning DUers out there to look into it. Yes, I know someone who has done it. The process wasn't arduous.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Just in case he can open up a spot.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)ia how you reply to an ignoramus!
Initech
(100,068 posts)Thank you I'm here all week!
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)take a Dreamer in and give them some place to hide? They can't go out. They can't get a job. I'm happy to do it if it will help, but I want to be sure it's more than a gesture. Can we sponsor them in some way so they are not afraid? Should I take someone in and hire them to work for me in some way and enroll them in school? Just curious as to what we should do to help.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)I just sold it, waiting for the signing in 2 weeks, one step closer to making my great escape from enemy territory (michigan).
I will be moving to the SW when I sell one more chunk of my past, maybe by next April.
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...that Susan Sarandon will help? I actually don't wonder - the answer is a big ZERO!
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)proud patriot
(100,705 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)that senior citizens marry the Dreamers. There's a lot of naivete involved.
Keeping a Dreamer in your home won't stop ICE from coming in if they learn they're staying with you. And has already been pointed out, if they can't leave they can't work, and I honestly cannot afford to support someone else. Cher can, so good for her. But most of us, not so much.
unblock
(52,206 posts)so i don't think she's naively thinking everyone is in a position to do this.
on the other hand, there were truly good people under nazi reign who did even more heroic things to protect innocent people from a hateful government....
jaxind
(1,074 posts)Hey Brenda lady...I believe Cher! But I don't believe tRUMP when he says he'll give a million of his own money to Harvey victims! Do you believe that, Brenda??!
raven mad
(4,940 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)To welcome and transition the Dreamers into Mexico or wherever else. And they can bring their US born children with them!
Cher is sweet and means well, but what the Dreamers really need right now is lawyers and lobbyists.
I think. What is the intent here? Is she offering to hide them from ICE? Cuz she just blew her cover, if so. Do they need housing? Aren't they mostly employed and housed? (again with the Houston exception.)
I'm stupid today. I don't get it. But I'll put them up if they need it. We have plenty of Dreamers here in Denver.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)WTG Cher!!!
niyad
(113,279 posts)The Wizard
(12,545 posts)Bada Boom. Good one.