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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 06:59 AM Jul 2012

The New Totalitarianism: How American Corporations Have Made America Like the Soviet Union

http://www.alternet.org/visions/156311/the_new_totalitarianism%3A_how_american_corporations_have_made_america_like_the_soviet_union/

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The great power struggle of the 20th century was the competition between Soviet-style communism and "free-market" corporatism for domination of the world's resources. In America, it's taken for granted that Soviet communism lost (though China's more capitalist variant seems to be doing well), and the superiority of neo-liberal economics -- as epitomized by the great multinational corporations -- was thus affirmed for all time and eternity.

There's a small problem with this, though. An old bit of wisdom says: choose your enemies carefully, because over time, you will tend to become the very thing you most strongly resist. One of the most striking things about our victorious corporations now is the degree to which they've taken on some of the most noxious and Kafkaesque attributes of the Soviet system -- too often leaving their employees, customers, and other stakeholders just as powerless over their own fates as the unhappy citizens of those old centrally planned economies of the USSR were back in the day.

It's not just that the corporations have taken control over our government (though that's awful enough). It's also that they've taken control over -- and put serious limits on -- our choices regarding what we buy, where we work, how we live, and what rights we have. Our futures are increasingly no longer our own: more and more decisions, large and small, that determine the quality of our lives are being made by Politburo apparatchiks at a Supreme Corporate Soviet somewhere far distant from us. Only now, those apparatchiks are PR and marketing executives, titans of corporate finance, lobbyists for multinationals, and bean-counting managers trying to increase profits at the expense of our freedom.

With tongue only somewhat in cheek, here are a few ways in which Americans are now becoming a new lumpenproletariat, subject to the whims and diktats of our new Soviet-style corporate overlords.
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The New Totalitarianism: How American Corporations Have Made America Like the Soviet Union (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2012 OP
Yeah.. ananda Jul 2012 #1
k and r nashville_brook Jul 2012 #2
Is Truth. Octafish Jul 2012 #3
in a sad irony amfortas the hippie Jul 2012 #4
I've said for years that our leaders learned the wrong lessons. knitter4democracy Jul 2012 #5
And pretty soon, we'll all be buying everything from one store - Wal-Mart. reformist2 Jul 2012 #6
k&r raouldukelives Jul 2012 #7
The whole helpless and powerless spiel gets old... bhikkhu Jul 2012 #8
That could have been a good joke, but you lost me at "purely democratic constructs" Occulus Jul 2012 #10
In the sense that they are chosen by the people in general bhikkhu Jul 2012 #14
'which essentially makes them almost purely democratic constructs' marmar Jul 2012 #12
You're right, I always choose Lockheed for my warplane needs. JackRiddler Jul 2012 #20
I get your point, but nevertheless corporations are the sum of people's choices bhikkhu Jul 2012 #25
K&R n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2012 #9
In terms of lack of political choice true - TBF Jul 2012 #11
Soviet citizens had to stand in long lines to buy very basic items Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #15
Yes I saw the propaganda movies in 6th grade TBF Jul 2012 #16
A couple of my geography professors actually took a tour of the USSR with Intourist Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #19
perestroika (abandonment of central planning) was already implemented by 1985 BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #22
I don't think you can say perestroika was "already implemented" by 1985 Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #24
The Sovoets had their horrors DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #27
Work for a corporation and try signing on to DU. joshcryer Jul 2012 #32
"Red baiting"? Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #33
I know what you're doing TBF Jul 2012 #36
Next thing you'll be telling me, Stalin didn't have any purges Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #42
I'm not getting into this with you. TBF Jul 2012 #45
otoh BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #17
Central planning was very efficient, it was just focused on the wrong things. white_wolf Jul 2012 #39
K&R. Thanks for posting. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #13
They only want what's best for us. kenny blankenship Jul 2012 #18
There's no fundamental difference between state communism and unfettered capitalism. joshcryer Jul 2012 #21
you're the worst BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #23
I dunno - from this vantage point it looks to me like the TBF Jul 2012 #37
You still have the option to not shop at Wal-Mart. joshcryer Jul 2012 #38
In one of his videos Chomsky makes a similar point. white_wolf Jul 2012 #40
Chomsky recognizes that state communism / USSR is capitalist at heart. joshcryer Jul 2012 #43
kr HiPointDem Jul 2012 #26
heh RobertEarl Jul 2012 #28
I've been seriously thinking, there seem to be problems once ANY kind of organization becomes snot Jul 2012 #29
It's the Iron Law of Oligarchy. white_wolf Jul 2012 #41
Very interesting, thanks! snot Jul 2012 #46
K&R patrice Jul 2012 #30
Yup, many of us have made similar observations nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #31
I do what I can quaker bill Jul 2012 #34
Excellent article krispos42 Jul 2012 #35
America has changed aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #44

ananda

(28,866 posts)
1. Yeah..
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:12 AM
Jul 2012

.. even our police forces are for the most part not in place
to serve and protect people but rather to serve their
corporate fascist masters.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Is Truth.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jul 2012

Corporate rule is exactly same like dicktatership.
All zeks serve Mission.
No peon get vote that counts.
Big Boss rules.
Little Bosses terrorize.
Serfs serve.
Big Time.

Sounds familiar, America?

No? Read words of man who once headed Supreme Corporate Presidium of the BFEE:

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." -- George W Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000

4. in a sad irony
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:09 AM
Jul 2012

this is an unintended result of the Enlightenment.
I holler all the time, on my little blog, about the Universalism that the Enlightenment inherited from what came before.Without Reflection,and Vigilance, Reason can lead to Totalitarianism(Arendt).
The Soviets found that their version of Marx wasn't winning the Hearts and Minds, so Force was used.
We're doing the same, just stealthily.
I try mightily to avoid Walmart...but what if I need a new windw unit?
There's simply nowhere else to go, out here,on the perimeter.And I'd better get one before Labor Day, because the Machine has determined that the Herd doesn't purchase A/c's after that date, in sufficient numbers to warrant stocking them...no matter if it's in Alaska, or Texas(Heat until November)
This is Efficiency///which is the Reason for Being for Corps(e)...Reason run Rampant, Universalised, without much Thought given to Individuals or Regions.
This was, of course, forecast as far back a s Adam Smith. Which is a pretty wild thought.Riffing on Horkheimer/Adorno/Rosenstock-Huessy...lol.(Geek Alert)

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
5. I've said for years that our leaders learned the wrong lessons.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:11 AM
Jul 2012

The Cold War was not an object lesson of how we should run the US for crying out loud. Cheney's the worst--he'd fit right in with the Politburo.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
6. And pretty soon, we'll all be buying everything from one store - Wal-Mart.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:12 AM
Jul 2012

But it'll be SO different from communism! lol

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
8. The whole helpless and powerless spiel gets old...
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jul 2012

corporations, by and large, only exists because we choose them. They depend utterly on the continual flow of cash that our behaviors and daily choices provide - which essentially makes them almost purely democratic constructs.

If people chose to vote away their freedom, that says more about people than anything else. If they chose to change, if they chose to live differently, they certainly can.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
10. That could have been a good joke, but you lost me at "purely democratic constructs"
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jul 2012

Today's corporations aren't anything close to what you describe.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
14. In the sense that they are chosen by the people in general
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:54 PM
Jul 2012

especially if one looks at our financial choices as "voting with our wallets".

I'm not saying I like it - I won't set foot in a w-mart myself, for example, but the store is always busy, and other stores it competes with have gone out of business because more people vote for w-mart. W-mart exists on the scale it does because people chose it to be so. Other corporations exist in the same way, and there are very few that would survive long if people in general chose otherwise.

Reagan is another example of a "purely democratic construct". I couldn't stand him myself and couldn't imagine how anyone voted for him, but nevertheless people in general did choose him. Which says more about human nature, disappointing as it may be sometimes, than about how we might be powerless and helpless.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
20. You're right, I always choose Lockheed for my warplane needs.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jul 2012

Blackwater provides my mercenary squads, and any time I want to buy a billion in naked derivatives, I turn to Goldman Sachs.

And where do you think I'm going to place that $10 million ad buy tomorrow? FOX, of course!

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
25. I get your point, but nevertheless corporations are the sum of people's choices
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jul 2012

Governments pay for mercenaries, but people chose governments. Fox would evaporate overnight if people didn't chose to watch it, and any bank that people stopped depositing money in would fold very soon.

I'd rather have people look at the many choices they make daily and how they affect the world we all live in, that convince them they are powerless and helpless. People can change their lives, they can make a difference, and enough people acting toward an ideal can change the world.

Other than that, I watch the daily stream of customers in and out of the w-mart, most of whom believe they amount to nothing and make no difference at all; and voting (or not) with similar lack of care.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
11. In terms of lack of political choice true -
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jul 2012

but the Soviet Union didn't have the unemployment we have so the citizens were actually better off in that regard.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
16. Yes I saw the propaganda movies in 6th grade
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:27 PM
Jul 2012

and you are not talking to someone who is interested in your red-baiting.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
19. A couple of my geography professors actually took a tour of the USSR with Intourist
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jul 2012

One of them flew into Russia on Aeroflot and he said it was the worst flying experience he had ever had. Both he and the other professor confirmed that there were lines to buy basic daily items, and that was as late as 1987. The Soviet economy was not oriented toward consumer goods, it was geared toward "industrial production", which was essentially producing products for other industries.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
27. The Sovoets had their horrors
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jul 2012

and America had it's.

All the same, no way the Soviets would have allowed DU on there.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
33. "Red baiting"?
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 04:29 AM
Jul 2012

Do you have any idea what the term means?

Joseph McCarthy engaged in red-baiting. That is, he accused numerous people of being members of the Communist Party, whether they were or not. All I have done is point out something that was a part of life in the old USSR.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
42. Next thing you'll be telling me, Stalin didn't have any purges
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:54 AM
Jul 2012

and there were no gulags-- they were all Solzhenitsyn's imagination

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
39. Central planning was very efficient, it was just focused on the wrong things.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:35 AM
Jul 2012

They focused very heavily on the military, something the U.S. does as well. Also, Russia went from being a semi-feudal state to being a world superpower in less than 50 years. Central planning worked as far as industrialization goes. Had the USSR organized itself along Syndicalist lines, and actually placed power in the hands of the workers it could have avoided its other problems such as authoritarianism.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
18. They only want what's best for us.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jul 2012

We wouldn't know what to do with our freedom if we still had it.
Mandates = Freedom

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
21. There's no fundamental difference between state communism and unfettered capitalism.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jul 2012

None.

However, it's a lot easier to emancipate yourself from corporations, not so much a state nationalized apparatus.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
37. I dunno - from this vantage point it looks to me like the
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jul 2012

corporations are eating us alive ... as are the 1% who own most of the country. Anytime just a few people are running everything we seem to have problems. I'd love to see actual democracy in action.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
38. You still have the option to not shop at Wal-Mart.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:23 AM
Jul 2012

You never have the option not to shop at the nationalized food dispensaries.

Corporations are ripe for cronyism, nepotism, and outright corruption.

Nationalized state assets are not immune from that, either.

Indeed, I argue that all centralized capital formations encourage it and make it more viable.

The corporations are irrelevant from my vantage point.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
40. In one of his videos Chomsky makes a similar point.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:38 AM
Jul 2012

He argued that having a company assemble their products in Mexico and ship them to L.A. for distribution and sell them in New York is really no different than what the USSR did. He said you are still operating within a massive command economy. I don't necessary agree that you can emancipate yourself from corporations. You can choose not to shop at Wal-Mart, but you will have to shop somewhere. Perhaps if you are lucky you can avoid corporations, but you are stuck with capitalism.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
43. Chomsky recognizes that state communism / USSR is capitalist at heart.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:01 AM
Jul 2012

His anarchist views tend to be cut from interviews, unfortunately, so a lot of people don't see the end result of his arguments.

I think that emancipating yourself from corporations is still possible, and I believe that corporations are going to be marginalized in due course as open source, open hardware in particularly, starts to encroach upon their space. It's only a matter of time and yes there will be a push back against it because some people would prefer their hands be held by corporations just as some would prefer their hands be held by the state.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
28. heh
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jul 2012

I told that to a state appointed board one time. That the whole process we were enmeshed in reminded me of Soviet Russian Communism. That no matter what the people thought and no matter what the science said, there were just a few people whom, behind closed doors, were making all the decisions that affected millions of people in the region.

My side ended up winning. Or rather, we influenced the decision makers to change their minds, get out of the rut and make progress.

Reflecting on that and other more recent campaigns, it is reality that major decisions are made day in and day out by the 1%. It isn't communism in its purist sense, but Soviet style of government. Like Bush said, it would be great if this were a dictatorship, as long as he, Bush was the dictator.

America, i love you for what you could be and might have been!

snot

(10,530 posts)
29. I've been seriously thinking, there seem to be problems once ANY kind of organization becomes
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jul 2012

too powerful -- whether because it's too big, or controls too much weaponry relative to the rest of the world, or too much wealth, or too much information.

Doesn't matter if it's a capitalist or a communist government, or a corporation, or a foundation, or a church, or a union, or the owners of the media, or anything else. Once it reaches a certain scale in power relative to everyone else, it's no longer accountable to everyone else, and becomes an irresistible target for hijacking by sociopaths.

Saying corporations aren't people might or might not be helpful, but isn't going to fix this basic problem. There will still be those who seek to amass disproportionate power via other means.

I am NOT saying it's hopeless. What I hope for is more discussion about new ways of thinking about systemic solutions, new kinds of checks and balances.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
41. It's the Iron Law of Oligarchy.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:40 AM
Jul 2012

"the iron law of oligarchy is a political theory, first developed by the German syndicalist sociologist Robert Michels in his 1911 book, Political Parties.[1] It claims that rule by an elite - or "oligarchy" is inevitable as an "iron law" within any organization as part of the "tactical and technical necessities" of organization.[2] Michels particularly addressed the application of this law to democracy, and stated: "It is organization which gives birth to the dominion of the elected over the electors, of the mandataries over the mandators, of the delegates over the delegators. Who says organization, says oligarchy."[3] He went on to state that "Historical evolution mocks all the prophylactic measures that have been adopted for the prevention of oligarchy."[4] Michels stated that the official goal of democracy of eliminating elite rule was impossible, that democracy is a façade legitimizing the rule of a particular elite, and that elite rule, that he refers to as oligarchy, is inevitable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
34. I do what I can
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 07:22 AM
Jul 2012

I make and sell reasonably priced jewelry that is carefully made, unique, and unlike anything available at a big box or the mall. The stuff I do cannot be mass produced at the same level of quality for the price. It can only be done by hand and takes too much time for factory production.

Jewelry in a similar range of materials and price is mass produced in India and the far east, but the quality of the workmanship and materials is very poor and it shows. The range of materials they use is limited to mass market sensibilities and the cut stones and designs are standardized to speed production.

No two pieces I make are the same, except for earring pairs, and then no two pairs are the same. People seem to like what I do, they know they are getting something affordable, but unique and from the hand of an artist. It has taken some time and effort to develop work that can keep affordable and artistic and still make a buck at it. It can be done.

This model works. I expect it works in many different places.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
35. Excellent article
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 07:59 AM
Jul 2012
<snip>

The USSR has been a historical dead letter for over 20 years now -- but there are still plenty of earnest Fox-watching Americans for whom "communism" remains the most terrifying of all scare words. They're vigilantly watching the leftward horizon, scanning for signs of government-inflicted socialism, ready to strip their own democracy of its very ability to thwart totalitarians if that's what must be done to stop totalitarianism.

Unfortunately, they're facing the wrong direction. The real threat of dignity-stripping, liberty-destroying, soul-crushing oppression is coming not from government, but from the very corporations those same people believed were the key to our superiority over the Communist menace. Now that the government can't protect us from rapacious businesses any more, the centrally planned authoritarian state they've feared is already coming to pass -- privately, for the profit of the few, free from pesky accountability or oversight, and without a bit of resistance from the would-be patriots who have been on guard for decades to ensure it could never happen here.

<end>

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
44. America has changed
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:14 AM
Jul 2012

When I was a kid in the 50s and 60s, my dad was in the Air Force and he was transferred all over the place. We traveled a great deal on America's highways. There were noticeable regional differences from town to town and state to state in architecture, foods, even the accents of Americans when they spoke. Now if you were dropped in to several widely separated mid-sized town at random, you'd see the same handful of stores selling tires, fast food, clothes, and other things with the same store fronts surrounded by similar-looking suburban enclaves. You might have trouble telling the places apart. America has become very homogenized and the local color that privately-owned business brought to the downtown area is almost gone. I love certain things about modern America including the progress made in human rights, medicine, and science. But there are things about the older America I wish we could bring back. I know some of it has to do with the taste you acquire from growing up in a certain environment. I personally despise the look of modern architecture and the fact that most American cities now all look the same, with their steel and glass cubes that have zero personality. When I was a kid and my father was transferred to Colorado Springs in the 60s, they tore down the beautiful Antler's Hotel, the main downtown feature of charm so that a developer could put up a rectangular steel and glass monstrosity. As a lawyer, I always hated working in these buildings as you could not open a window to get fresh air. They were like crypts and I was much happier working in old buildings made of brick or stone remaining in older parts of town where you could open a window and listen to the life on the street outside. Somehow, that seemed more human. I know that part of my discontent is just the fact I'm an old-timer and hate a lot of modern things. But I think this article is very true and that America is losing its organically-grown character and is becoming an extension of corporate culture, centrally planned, based on how to spend the least and make the most profit. Culture and charm have no place in that world.

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