I expect Christians to not lie

[left-of-center2012]

Well, not suppose to, anyway.
Not blatantly.

While watching one of the TV court/judge shows there was a TV commercial for CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network) News.
It showed riots in the street, buildings burning, some black guy attacking a door with an ax.

The CBN News commercial said:
"This is the world the left wants to bring you ..."

I grew up Methodist and if I told such lies,
my mother would slap me upside the head.

Just saying ...

[Thomas Hurt]

1. well there is lying and then there is lyin for the Lord.....that is a distinction to many christians

[DURHAM D]

2. They are not christians.

They are FAKE CHRISTIANS.

[rurallib]

12. ends justify the means - if they got to lie to bring on the rapture so be it

there isn't a platitude they subscribe to that isn't subject to "the ends justify the means."

[Hortensis]

13. No. They are still Christian. But many have swallowed the Kool-Aid that

insidiously developed a huge disconnect between their religious beliefs and behaviors and their political behavior.

We have a number of neighbors who would take us in in a moment, feed us, lend us their cars, money, whatever, even though we're not-so-ex- Californian Jew, nonbeliever, liberals. Those who once lived their religion still do--within the confines of their personal worlds. But we do not talk politics with most and delicately with a very few. We don't want to see the political facet of most if we are to remain friends. We're friends with their other side, the one that still dares to consider, "What would Jesus do?"

[atreides1]

30. There are Christians, and then there are "Christians"!!!

Providing the latter with an excuse for their unChrist like actions is only enabling them! A "Christian" in name only, wears a label...and that's all it is!

They drink the kool-aid with eyes wide open, and with no regrets! Let's not make excuses for them!

[Hortensis]

32. I didn't speak of THOSE. All Christian ministries are extremely aware that

large numbers of those who wear their labels know nothing about the church's doctrine and live it less. They believe the labels they wear, though, twisting religion as needed to provide their own excuses.

That's not something we do for them. And indulging our own animosities by attacking the religion of others is absolutely the worst thing we could do if we want to win.

Not everyone here on DU has winning the next election as a top priority, though. Many are addicted to indulgence of hostility toward others and they need strife and division. Those are the people we need to call out.

[Mariana]

18. More accurate to say they're bad Christians.

Most of them are sincere in their Christian faith.

[Alpeduez21]

29. But their works are dead

and you know what they say "faith w/o works is dead."

If you are a lying manipulative self serving puke pile claiming faith in the lord doesn't help anything.

[Mariana]

37. So you say, but you don't get to judge that, do you?

They think they're doing what God wants them to do, according to how they interpret the book. You think they're wrong. That doesn't make them non-Christians.

[BigmanPigman]

3. Actually I expect Christians to lie more since they often

are the biggest hypocrites. Also, they use the "Christian lable" to cover their lies and actions and to scare and deceive people. Too many people are gullible enough to buy into it hook, line and sinker over and over for a couple of thousand years.

[trc]

33. I agree whole heartedly

Here in Texas, and I assume elsewhere, many businesses have jesus fish on their vehicles or in their logo's and signage to indicate they are a godly bidness. I tell anyone who listens that those companies should be avoided at all cost, they will screw you without thought or care. If you need to profess your christianity in your company signage, me thinks thou dost protest too much.

[stopbush]

4. The whole of Christianity is based on lies. Why would you expect Xians to not lie?

They're lying even when they think they're speaking their truths.

[gratuitous]

6. I know! "Serve one another in love" What a bunch of malarkey

I suggest you get down to Houston right now and give these people a piece of your mind:

http://www.brethren.org/cds/

As I type, their nefarious minions are pretending to provide trained disaster child care workers. I have it on good authority that they're planning to go to Florida after Irma wreaks its havoc and do the same thing, the dastards!

[stopbush]

10. Anyone so out of touch with their basic humanity that they need religion

to tell them what they should be doing when it comes to helping their fellow beings is at heart a piece of shit.

Do you really believe that but for their Christian beliefs, these people would turn a cold shoulder to helping their fellow beings? If so, shame on them.

[gratuitous]

20. Okay, so you don't know what you're talking about

Thanks for clearing that up. I'd explain it to you, but from the content of your posts, I surmise that your mind is closed.

[Mariana]

19. It's very easy to interpret instructions like that

as telling Christians how to behave toward other Christians, rather than how to treat everyone. It's also very easy to declare that people who practice Christianity differently than you do aren't really Christian at all. Someone on this thread has done exactly that.

[lindysalsagal]

24. Why is this so hard for people to accept??? Ancient lies and voodoo.

Plain as day.

[jberryhill]

5. I expect them to believe they are forgiven and to do it without any guilt

[Major Nikon]

8. If you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing

[unblock]

7. i've found that it's the proclaimers who are the worst offenders

the ones who make sure everyone around them knows they're christian.

i've known plenty of people who don't talk about their religion, and you'd never know how serious they were about it unless they invited you into their home and you saw various markers of religion and serious commitment to it.

[Initech]

9. The Christians we elected lie like it's a bodily function.

I'd be more surprised if they actually told the truth for once.

[milestogo]

11. The biggest liars I know are born-again Christians.

Its like they think you won't notice the lies because they're so busy putting on a show of piety.

[FiveGoodMen]

14. You're in for an awful lot of disappointment, then

[TomSlick]

15. Your point is well taken.

There is, after all, the whole thing about bearing false witness.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

16. trump is a xtian,

and he lies like a rug.

[left-of-center2012]

17. On the View today ...

Whoopi said statistics reveal Trump lies 95% of the time.

[Skittles]

21. if Christians didn't lie, we would rarely hear them speak

[Beearewhyain]

22. We will leave the "No true Scotsman" aside for the moment

I just gonna say that someone should try and show a more prominent and different representation.

Just a thought.

[Rhiannon12866]

23. CBN has always been a PIA - on any level

Years ago, I was responsible for putting their programming online - along with other cable channels - for the newspapers. And CBN was always the worst, their schedule was confusing and unreadable, I dreaded dealing with that one most of all.

[JHB]

25. CBN is Pat Robertson...

...who has spent the last seven or so decades lying.

[RKP5637]

26. Religion is just another form of politics and is filled with lies, distortions and deceptions. n/t

[blueinredohio]

27. And older Christians wonder why younger people are leaving the church

[OnDoutside]

28. So how's that working out for you ?

[Orsino]

31. The beautiful thing about Christianity is that it welcomes all...

...and there is no evidence that Christians lie any less than anyone else.

This should make debunking easy when someone hides lies behind faith...but so many of us are conditioned to authority that such people tend not to be questioned closely.

[SDJay]

34. You're Not Seeing Christians on TeeVee...

To borrow from the Bible, you're seeing the money changers in the temple. You know, the only people Jesus - the actual Jesus and not Republican Bigot Jesus - actually got pissed at during his life.

Over the years, I've sadly learned the hard way that I have to take what the self-proclaiming, over-the-top, in-your-face "Christians" say to me with an entire mountain range of salt. These people will lie and fuck people over without hesitation, and why not? All they have to do is show up in a building on Sunday for an hour, pretend to be sorry and it's all good.

I was raised Catholic. I don't go to church anymore and haven't for years, but I always thought that at its best, religion taught you to listen to your conscious. These MFers like the ones you're seeing on TeeVee instead have somehow learned to basically eliminate their conscious.

[Hoyt]

35. LOL. If you go to make major purchase - car, house, etc. - and they start religious junk, LEAVE.

Same in politics.

[m-lekktor]

36. I guess you have a way different view christians than I do. nt

[left-of-center2012]

38. No

Because of the way I've been treated by "Christians" over the years,
I converted to Buddhism 22 years ago.