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King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 03:30 AM Sep 2017

Has there been any discussion of Trump possibly changing political party (again) ?

Let's look at the facts:

He was a Democrat, once upon a time.

Right now, he is considered to be a Republican In Name Only (RHINO). He hates the
Republican leadership and they hate him.

He is incapable of loyalty to anything or anyone. Today's friend is tomorrow's enemy.

He doesn't care if he throws the government into chaos.

He will say or do anything IF it serves his self-interest.

He is not hesitant to change political positions, and he has no core set of political values.

If he switched party affiliation,

1) it would become the focus of media attention for months and distract from serious issues.
2) he would be "the first" US president in history to change party while in office (he loves being first)
3) it would throw a monkey wrench into the Russia investigation and any likely impeachment procedings.
4) it would confuse the Dems and other detractors, and throw the resistance movement into chaos.
5) he would be playing both side against each other.

I noticed he and Pence were sporting blue-colored ties at the announcement -- not the mile-long red one.
Is it a secret signal ??

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Has there been any discussion of Trump possibly changing political party (again) ? (Original Post) King_Klonopin Sep 2017 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author mahina Sep 2017 #1
He'd probably call himself Independent, but don't rule out Dem or anything else... n/t King_Klonopin Sep 2017 #2
I hope the Party says... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #3
Is it actually possible rogerashton Sep 2017 #11
I'm sure that's correct... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #12
People's Front ? JI7 Sep 2017 #4
I do not know about Trump flips, but Ivanka and Jared are not, nor have they ever been Republicans Not Ruth Sep 2017 #5
We don't want them either. brush Sep 2017 #14
YEAH, YEAH. Tell it to the Marines. Or how about Robert Mueller? WinkyDink Sep 2017 #18
No such discussions. Further Democrats would not welcome tRump in any way. Bogus. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #6
I have been thinking along similar lines. gordianot Sep 2017 #7
Funny, then, how Trump's "no idelogy" syncs with the greed and bigotry of the "real" Republicans. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #19
I BigOleDummy Sep 2017 #8
To be honest, I always thought he was basically a liberal. PragmaticLiberal Sep 2017 #9
Could go the route of Uribe and start "The Party of the T" ck4829 Sep 2017 #10
WE DON'T WANT HIM. brush Sep 2017 #13
No way would it stall Impeachment proceedings PoorMonger Sep 2017 #15
also it is one move that would erode his precious base PoorMonger Sep 2017 #16
GIVE IT UP, THIS "DEMOCRAT" CRAP. LOOK AT HIS ENTIRE GODDAMN CABINET. GREED. BIGOTRY. IGNORANCE. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #17
+1 dalton99a Sep 2017 #31
No oberliner Sep 2017 #20
Pointless discussion... brooklynite Sep 2017 #21
Only way would be if Dems take back the House and Senate. MoonRiver Sep 2017 #22
Either way he'd madokie Sep 2017 #23
I doubt it however titaniumsalute Sep 2017 #24
IMO, he's not a democrat or Republican. He's a Corporatist. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #25
herr drumpf's only loyalty is to himself. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2017 #26
keep him the fuck out of our party...i want nothing to do with him...ever. spanone Sep 2017 #27
I believe most Democrats would react like this rock Sep 2017 #28
Absolutely. dalton99a Sep 2017 #29
All trump wants is a win mercuryblues Sep 2017 #30
Ha, the repukes can keep wishing a dreaming. This is their pile of shit to deal with. Pisces Sep 2017 #32

Response to King_Klonopin (Original post)

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
11. Is it actually possible
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 07:10 AM
Sep 2017

in this country, for a political party to exclude an individual? If he registers as a Democrat, then he is a Democrat, no?

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
12. I'm sure that's correct...
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 07:36 AM
Sep 2017

...but his state - NY - would have some guidelines about registration. There are too many mischief makers registering and re-registering. I'd say a good guideline would be, "If you were elected President as a Republican, you need to wait 25 years before re-registering as a Democrat" (especially if you're a Trump family member).

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
5. I do not know about Trump flips, but Ivanka and Jared are not, nor have they ever been Republicans
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 04:51 AM
Sep 2017

Makes you wonder

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
7. I have been thinking along similar lines.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 06:15 AM
Sep 2017

No Pence will not be a secret Democrat. No matter party affiliation Trump is a crook. Trump has no ideology.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
19. Funny, then, how Trump's "no idelogy" syncs with the greed and bigotry of the "real" Republicans.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 08:42 AM
Sep 2017

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
9. To be honest, I always thought he was basically a liberal.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 06:44 AM
Sep 2017

An extremely narcissistic liberal but a liberal nonetheless.

ck4829

(35,075 posts)
10. Could go the route of Uribe and start "The Party of the T"
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 06:53 AM
Sep 2017

I'm actually quite surprised he hasn't done it already.

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
15. No way would it stall Impeachment proceedings
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 08:13 AM
Sep 2017

The Repugs would feel betrayed and some would probably join the Dems , who would not be fooled and still want him OUT. Just need a few R's to want it to happen and then we would vote en mass to end this turd.

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
16. also it is one move that would erode his precious base
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 08:17 AM
Sep 2017

I'm convinced that among the people who still support him the largest group are people whose only real 'issue' they care about is hating Democrats and Liberals

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
17. GIVE IT UP, THIS "DEMOCRAT" CRAP. LOOK AT HIS ENTIRE GODDAMN CABINET. GREED. BIGOTRY. IGNORANCE.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 08:35 AM
Sep 2017

This "argument," this claim, this disingenuous "Trump's not really a Republican" is a bunch of PIG FECAL MATTER.

brooklynite

(94,541 posts)
21. Pointless discussion...
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 08:50 AM
Sep 2017

The only value in switching Parties is if it brings you voters you didn't have before. As much as Joe Scarborough and other like to claim he's "really a Democrat", he wouldn't be on a stronger political footing if he re-registered.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
22. Only way would be if Dems take back the House and Senate.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 08:53 AM
Sep 2017

At that point his impeachment and conviction would be pretty much guaranteed. The hypocrite might flip to, in his demented mind, save his sorry arse.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
24. I doubt it however
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 08:56 AM
Sep 2017

I could see him doing something like this so he'd be in the massive headlines again for about 2 weeks.

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
25. IMO, he's not a democrat or Republican. He's a Corporatist.
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 09:53 AM
Sep 2017

His is a Narcissistic Megalomaniac who holds many grudges and whose only true loyalties are making Wall Street more money.

He'll say whatever is necessary and pander to whatever group is the most beneficial to his corporatist cause at the moment because he has no core principles. He knows people have short memories and he is a veteran at media manipulation. He has been a democrat when it served him, a republican when it benefitted him, and an "independent" when neither of the two offered a better foothold. In the recent election he pandered heavily to the republican base (that has deep-seeded racism and xenophobia) because that was the only way for someone with no political achievements to climb to the top of the GOP ticket.

I actually do not believe he is any more racist/xenophobic than any other wealthy old white guy. He's quite the showman though. As a wealthy businessman, he already had a lion's share of corporate votes locked in and being a pop media icon he knows how to play a crowd and make waves... so all he really had to do was play to the poor white racists in the southern states and harp on lost jobs and immigration to drum up hatred in the rustbelt flyover states.

And when that wasn't enough, he colluded with foreign interests. "Winning" at costs. He said and did what he had to do because morals and principles are less important to him than wealth, power and admiration. He's extremely wealthy and arguably the most powerful man on the planet now... and it's slowly killing him to learn firsthand that someone with no moral standards or true character can't buy or mandate admiration. Maybe granddaddy Trump didn't give him enough hugs as a kid or something.

I don't think he hates Obama because he's black in the least. He hates Obama and tears down Obama's accomplishments because people loved Obama. He knows he can never have that no matter how rich or powerful he becomes. Trump knows that even among his loyal trumpists, they don't love him... they don't even like him ... they only like hearing the fucked up shit he says. And even then, he knows he only says it to pander to them so they're only liking someone who isn't even his true self.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
30. All trump wants is a win
Sat Sep 9, 2017, 11:05 AM
Sep 2017

He doesn't care who hands it to him. If Dems win the senate with a filibuster proof majority he will sign any legislation put in front of him, for the win. Him siding with Democrats on the debt ceiling shows that.

He can register to any party. Just as Dem leaders can opt not to give him funds to campaign with.

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