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So if Chuck and Nancy pull this off, can we stop with the calls to "dump Nancy"? (Original Post) Hamlette Sep 2017 OP
You know it's people reacting to the latest ProudLib72 Sep 2017 #1
You Would Think DUers Would Be Smarter Me. Sep 2017 #2
I think they kind of messed it up, though I think Nancy is Alice11111 Sep 2017 #3
Trump was going to deny it regardless Hamlette Sep 2017 #9
I Agree With You DarthDem Sep 2017 #4
No. They woukd want to get rid of her when more since most of them want immigrsnts out JI7 Sep 2017 #5
I haven't seen this recently JonLP24 Sep 2017 #6
Dump Nancy: Sure sign of short-sighted stupidity. JNelson6563 Sep 2017 #7
The Anti Pelosi crowds will say she can't swim if she walks on top of water. uponit7771 Sep 2017 #8

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. You know it's people reacting to the latest
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 07:43 PM
Sep 2017

out of context statement and parroting people like Tim Ryan et al who have no solid plan but just want her out. I think most DUers are more adult about this than some congress people. It's these provocateurs stirring up trouble who need to be replaced, not Pelosi.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
2. You Would Think DUers Would Be Smarter
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 07:53 PM
Sep 2017

But the calls for her retirement these last months have been appalling. And of course, the RYan backers, as well as white men finances have played a huge role.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
3. I think they kind of messed it up, though I think Nancy is
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 07:54 PM
Sep 2017

Very smart, savvy. I'm sure I'll get flack for this opinion. I thought it last night when the story was breaking. Oh shit, why are you increasing the odds it will be fucked.

You just don't get 90pc of a deal and brag, or even release it, until it is nailed, especially when you are dealing with an unpredictable opponent or asshole, here both. Treat it like fragile glass. I'm just going from experience in a similar field. You keep your wins more private than your losses, until way later.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
9. Trump was going to deny it regardless
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 09:30 PM
Sep 2017

and this way, makes him look a liar. With no power, there was no way they had the power to "enforce" the deal unless it was made public. I have doubted Nancy in the past (years ago) only to figure out she knows what she's doing. Trust me, there is method to her madness.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
4. I Agree With You
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 08:15 PM
Sep 2017

She is astonishingly underrated. She's highly effective. And Republicans would be all over the airwaves with "CANDIDATE XYZ IS CLOSELY TIED TO WASHINGTON LIBERAL TIM RYAN" ads anyway; the truth doesn't matter to them as we well know.

Meanwhile, she and Schumer have taken advantage of clear Republican divisions and are showing themselves to be responsible adult politicians, which is important.

Let other people take the charge on the Russia investigation and talk about impeachment. She doesn't need to do so.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. I haven't seen this recently
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 08:33 PM
Sep 2017

At the beginning of the year it was there but I haven't much of that recently if at all. FTR I supported Pelosi over Tim Ryan to replace her and I'm at the Bernie wing of the party.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
7. Dump Nancy: Sure sign of short-sighted stupidity.
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 08:38 PM
Sep 2017

It reminds me of the mob-rule days in Athens. Lost a war. Execute ALL the generals. Next war comes. Yeah, Athens is fucked.

I can only wonder: Are they really short-sighted fools? Or do they really want ruination for the Dems? Hard to tell.

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