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Who chose Sanders and Klobuchar for the debate tonight? (Original Post) lunamagica Sep 2017 OP
Given today's hearing, Wyden and Hirono would have been better choices. LonePirate Sep 2017 #1
I think Amy Klobouchar will do just fine tonight defending the ACA. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #2
Excellent choice, she and Bernie... no doubt they'll make us proud tonight! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #27
dear lord i hope its postponed samnsara Sep 2017 #3
If people knew Amy Klobuchar better, they'd understand. MineralMan Sep 2017 #4
I agree with you about her. But I'd like to know who made the arrangements. It is not her who lunamagica Sep 2017 #6
why would Bernie worry you. He is a good debater lovemydogs Sep 2017 #12
Because he has criticized Democrats publicly, and has his own health care agenda lunamagica Sep 2017 #15
Democrats have been arguing publicly and fighting for decades. lovemydogs Sep 2017 #19
BTW, Luna, I love your screen name. It is magical lovemydogs Sep 2017 #20
Thank you! lunamagica Sep 2017 #33
Tonight it is NOT the right time or place for this. Toning must be lunamagica Sep 2017 #23
I disagree lovemydogs Sep 2017 #25
Such things can be discussed another time. If Sanders does anything but vigorously defend the ACA lunamagica Sep 2017 #32
Bernie knows the talking points that are accurate and helpful and if he sticks Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #28
both will do great tonight. lovemydogs Sep 2017 #5
And I love both! lovemydogs Sep 2017 #7
All right, then, but the question is, who arranged for them to be there? lunamagica Sep 2017 #8
Yes, that is the question lovemydogs Sep 2017 #11
Would have loved it if it were Franken/Klobuchar. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #9
both are Minnesota. If Franken was there then Amy would not be lovemydogs Sep 2017 #10
It would be solid representation. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #13
Having two from the same state would upset people. lovemydogs Sep 2017 #17
What happened in 1997? OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #36
CNN apparently went directly to Sanders. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #14
THANK YOU!!! Finally an answer! I agree with you. After reading this I'm more worried than ever lunamagica Sep 2017 #18
With good reason. I just hope Klobuchar isn't talked over, by the three Ninsianna Sep 2017 #22
2R, 1D, 1I DeminPennswoods Sep 2017 #16
It would've been great to have 2 Dems who are solidly in support of the ACA. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #21
I love the ACA but, would prefer Health Care for All lovemydogs Sep 2017 #24
Me too, and since there is a zero chance of medicare for all happening while the GOP Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #29
Wouldn't we all? awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #31
ACA is here. Medicare for All is a goal for the future. "Democrats" should be doing everything.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #35
Probably CNN Not Ruth Sep 2017 #26
Seems Sanders will be advocating Medicare for all. Crap, we need to fix the ACA for now. riversedge Sep 2017 #30
Miller-Lewis said. Bernies been saying for months that he knows single-payer isnt going Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #37
I think Sanders was challenged to the debate WhiteTara Sep 2017 #34

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
1. Given today's hearing, Wyden and Hirono would have been better choices.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:29 PM
Sep 2017

They have been kicking ass today.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. If people knew Amy Klobuchar better, they'd understand.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:56 PM
Sep 2017

She is a very, very articulate person and is very, very good at speaking on issues. She's one of my senators, along with Al Franken. She will represent us with grace and power. Don't underestimate her.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
6. I agree with you about her. But I'd like to know who made the arrangements. It is not her who
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:01 PM
Sep 2017

worries me...

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
15. Because he has criticized Democrats publicly, and has his own health care agenda
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:10 PM
Sep 2017

I just hope he doesn't being either of those issues tonight. It would be the worst time to do it.

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
19. Democrats have been arguing publicly and fighting for decades.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:16 PM
Sep 2017

In 1930s, comic Will Rogers said he did not belong to an organized party...he was a democrat.
There have been jokes for years about the democrats and their strong will, strong opinions and arguing. And criticizing the party.
This idea of pretending to be lockstep has only taken hold in the past couple years.
A democrat is not afraid to express or criticize

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
23. Tonight it is NOT the right time or place for this. Toning must be
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:22 PM
Sep 2017

about saving the ACA, only about saving the ACA, and nothing else.

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
25. I disagree
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:24 PM
Sep 2017

For years I wished we could have health care as my family in France have.
While the ACA is a good beginning, it should move forward until we get single payer.
Its the only way for people to get the health care they need and deserve.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
32. Such things can be discussed another time. If Sanders does anything but vigorously defend the ACA
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:34 PM
Sep 2017

tonight, it will just show three senators who are against it. It will inject new life to the dying Obamacare repeal.

How do you think this will help? What do you think will happen if Sanders deflects the conversation from saving the ACA to single payer?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
28. Bernie knows the talking points that are accurate and helpful and if he sticks
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:27 PM
Sep 2017

to those and doesnt attack the party, it will be fine.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
9. Would have loved it if it were Franken/Klobuchar.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:03 PM
Sep 2017

I'm confident Klobuchar will hold her own.

It's a good question you ask. I would like to see the answer.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
13. It would be solid representation.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:06 PM
Sep 2017

Two Republicans will be there as well. Not sure why they couldn't have two Democrats. Seems two Minnesotans would be fine.

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
17. Having two from the same state would upset people.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:13 PM
Sep 2017

Alot of people would feel it unfair.

Besides, Bernie speaks the true democratic ideas that made the party strong and popular for decades. Its only in the past 20 years that the party abandoned it's traditional beliefs. Threw out the New Deal and turned their back on it.
Bernie speaks New Deal and that still is powerful for the majority of the people

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
22. With good reason. I just hope Klobuchar isn't talked over, by the three
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:21 PM
Sep 2017

men who don't much care for the ACA and have other issues they've set up to distract from what the GOP is up to.

They're announcing their game plan, CNN is cashing it, with the cooperation of someone in desperate need of an audience.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
29. Me too, and since there is a zero chance of medicare for all happening while the GOP
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:29 PM
Sep 2017

has control of ANY of the 3 houses of power, I think it is best to focus on saving what we have.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
31. Wouldn't we all?
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:34 PM
Sep 2017

However this divisiveness is counterproductive.

We need to win big in 2018. If we get out the vote (I know, I know), everyone who's pissed will have no excuse for not voting. No f-ing excuse.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
35. ACA is here. Medicare for All is a goal for the future. "Democrats" should be doing everything....
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:16 PM
Sep 2017

in our power to save the ACA, and stop muddying the waters until repeal is off the table for good. I don't think folks like you get that we're standing on the precipice of watching the closest thing we've ever had to universal health care struck down. Dems, and "allies" should be laser focused on saving what we've gained.

You don't talk about adding a sun porch when the house is on fire, you put out the fire first. That's why I agree with Hillary Clinton that the timing couldn't be worse.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
30. Seems Sanders will be advocating Medicare for all. Crap, we need to fix the ACA for now.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:31 PM
Sep 2017


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/09/21/sanders-and-klobuchar-book-cnn-debate-with-cassidy-and-graham/?utm_term=.8f8cf8b26a91


.....According to Sanders spokesman Josh Miller-Lewis, CNN came to the senator with the idea earlier in the week, and Sanders signed on without hesitation.

“For us, it was a no brainer,” said Josh Miller-Lewis. “If it’s a debate between guaranteeing health care to every single person as a right, or taking it away from 30 million Americans, Democrats will always win. How could you not take that opportunity?”

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
37. Miller-Lewis said. Bernies been saying for months that he knows single-payer isnt going
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:11 PM
Sep 2017

to pass next week. This is about making the argument to save the ACA.”

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