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Trump Genocide? Puerto Rico:"No drinking water. No food. No medicine. No dialysis. No insulin... (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 OP
Someone tell dumbshit they have no electoral votes there, maybe in that case Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #1
Hearing that might make him double down, though. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #6
Why aren't the USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy headed to Puerto Rico ? eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 #2
Because the USS Comfort is in near dry dock position DVRacer Sep 2017 #5
Thanks ! Not great news, but at least it's not massive negligence or incompetence. eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 #7
Once again, Republican cuts screw the American people. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #16
The USNS Comfort has a 33 foot draft. Puerto Rico's ports aren't deep enough blue water ports. AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #20
"This shit is for people who get things done. Not the Executive." eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 #22
They're not white malaise Sep 2017 #3
Bingo Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #4
Scary question: would Trump go THIS far to get back at Lin-Manuel Miranda? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #8
Sure - and not only that: his knuckle-draggers don't consider Puerto Rico part of the U.S. sandensea Sep 2017 #15
he's too busy tweeting about himself and his disastrous situation. spanone Sep 2017 #9
Trump makes Dumbya look like a frikkin hero. lpbk2713 Sep 2017 #10
Anyone who says that the 2 parties are the same is lying & has an agenda. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #12
W was an incompetent but did not want people to suffer JI7 Sep 2017 #17
You have to understand. He was tied up with an important battle with football players. NNadir Sep 2017 #11
Everything the GOP ever does eventually boils down to $$$ BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #13
Everyone needs to remember this moment. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #14
Not "eventually." ASAP! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #24
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #18
I'm horrified. This is horrible. yardwork Sep 2017 #19
Every day it gets worse. Initech Sep 2017 #21
Reminds of the genocide against Native Americans. roamer65 Sep 2017 #23

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Someone tell dumbshit they have no electoral votes there, maybe in that case
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:47 PM
Sep 2017

he wont purposely let them die as he is now doing.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
6. Hearing that might make him double down, though.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:05 PM
Sep 2017

He's likely to think "if they CAN'T vote, I don't have to keep them alive".

eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
2. Why aren't the USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy headed to Puerto Rico ?
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:32 PM
Sep 2017

They already know their way around the Caribbean pretty well.
http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/usnscomfort/Pages/News.as

AFAIK, the Navy has not kept any of its ship-to-shore power gereration ships in operation. That seems a little short-sighted. Even one such ship would be a godsend right now.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9625729

DVRacer

(707 posts)
5. Because the USS Comfort is in near dry dock position
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:02 PM
Sep 2017

Other ships are being serviced and reoutfiited they had to replenish after the first two hurricanes. US Navy will respond also remember that sequesteration hurt availability of non combat vessels.

eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
7. Thanks ! Not great news, but at least it's not massive negligence or incompetence.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:07 PM
Sep 2017

Hope they are on a crash schedule; they are needed badly.

One RWNJ remarked to HRC's tweet that they were already in PR, and "You'd know that if you were President."

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
20. The USNS Comfort has a 33 foot draft. Puerto Rico's ports aren't deep enough blue water ports.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:49 PM
Sep 2017

Most of the ships that dock there aren't over 26 feet draft. Including the largest of the cruise ships.

They're opening a port with a 50 foot channel depth waterway, but it's still under construction, and all it takes is for a medium sized yacht to be sitting on the bottom, and you crunch the Comfort.

For its intended purpose, the Comfort and the Mercy are examples of not thinking through the design requirements. Each has a single helipad, no hangar. It's practically useless for this specific scenario.

The LHD Kearsarge is in place, and it can handle multiple rotor wing aircraft, and it has the large hovercraft landing ships, so it's moving a lot of aid in and out. Much more effective in this role. Basically a landing ship and helicopter version of a Carrier.

Maryland Task Force One is arriving in Puerto Rico as well. I don't think people understand the scale of this disaster, nor the scale of the relief effort required.


This shit is for people who get things done. Not the Executive. The Office of the current President deserves neither credit not criticism for any part of the response effort. These plans and these resources are put together years in advance. You can't do it ad hoc from the Resolute in the Oval Office. The President, any President, can do little more than make promises and phone calls, in this regard. President Obama put some of it together. Bush put some of it together. It's an evolutionary thing, and it's bigger than any one disaster and bigger than any one president.

eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
22. "This shit is for people who get things done. Not the Executive."
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:33 PM
Sep 2017

Man, is that true. I had really hoped that some in the military had a defined mission for disaster relief that gave them the leeway to rush in and help without waiting for Twitler to notice there was a problem, but I have no experience with the military and don't know how free they are to act. I have seldom heard news more encouraging than that the pros have got this. A real President would have at least reassured the country that action was under way, instead of engaging in more useless poo-flinging on Twitter.

Thanks for all the info. I'm sure no one in the WH has a clue as to *any* of these details, except the generals. And the details are truly matters of life and death.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
4. Bingo
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 06:57 PM
Sep 2017

Trump wants on whites to die.

And they do vote. Millions of American citizens live there who vote absentee.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
8. Scary question: would Trump go THIS far to get back at Lin-Manuel Miranda?
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:08 PM
Sep 2017

I'm not asking that as any sort of joke.

Could he still be THAT pissed off that the HAMILTON! cast protested asked Mike Pence to make sure people's rights weren't taken away?

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
15. Sure - and not only that: his knuckle-draggers don't consider Puerto Rico part of the U.S.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:54 PM
Sep 2017

When he was briefed on the situation he probably bellowed: "Why should I throw taxpayer money at Portoricans? And what, piss off my base? Where's the upside? i don't see it."

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
10. Trump makes Dumbya look like a frikkin hero.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:13 PM
Sep 2017




Will the voters never learn this is what rethuglican presidents do ?

Trump is so far off the charts his cruelty is unimaginable.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
17. W was an incompetent but did not want people to suffer
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:17 PM
Sep 2017

In trumps case he doesn't care and i believe he gets enjoyment grim certain types of people hurting.

NNadir

(33,518 posts)
11. You have to understand. He was tied up with an important battle with football players.
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:29 PM
Sep 2017

He's REPUBLICANISM writ big.

They brought it, they own it; they are it.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
13. Everything the GOP ever does eventually boils down to $$$
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:33 PM
Sep 2017

in their overstuffed mattresses. That is how they can throw their own grandmom under a bus for a buck and still sleep well at night...sociopaths!

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