For those here that regularly defend The South

[edhopper]

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as not a bastion of ignorance and racism.
Look who the next Senator from Alabama will be.

Too bad we all suffer because of how the South votes.

[Purveyor]

1. Glad I don't live in the "south" anymore as I don't need to scrub off the slather of

complicity you applied with that broad brush.

[Hortensis]

25. Thanks, Purveyor. We followed our son to the South and resent that stupid brush.

More than resent, we are disturbed by bigoted attitudes displayed here that would be more appropriate over at the Cave.

Edhopper, if you don't like those who elected that despicable, corrupt, religious conservative right-winger, join us in blaming those who did. Division works for our enemies. I suggest you consider whether your behavior could help them.

Proud liberal in the south.

[mythology]

2. What simplistic thinking

You do realize that there are lots of people in Alabama who won't vote for this guy right? That writing off an entire state or region because they may vote for a crappy person today is silly. Should we write off California because they voted for Nixon and Reagan? Or should we accept that things can change?

I wouldn't write off Texas because W lives there. Because so did Molly Ivins, so did Ann Richards. There are good and bad people everywhere.

[LonePirate]

4. When a state prefers an open bigot twice removed from his previous job, then yeah, write it off.

No reasonably informed voter should ever cast a ballot for Moore yet he will likely win in December by 20 points. That speaks loudly to the tribalism and ignorance of the state. Yes, there are some good people in the state but they are vastly outnumbered by the others who are hell bent on tarnishing the state's and its people's reputation.

[icymist]

8. So you're already giving the state up, eh?

[LonePirate]

10. Yes. The majority of voters in the state want to live in the 19th century. Time to cut them loose.

[HAB911]

59. We call the Florida Panhandle LA

Lower Alabama

It overly infects Florida too

[sarisataka]

75. Winning elections in opponents territory is so hard,

We should only focus on our bastions, really only California and New York. Easier to keep them and complain that the rest of the country should just do what the coastal high pop States say than actually try and win.

[LonePirate]

82. How exactly would you reconcile Dem priorities with the priorities of the idiots & bigots in AL?

These people cannot be reached. We should not sacrifice core values of our party to win over the cretins who dominate politics in Alabama. Our time, effort and money are better spent in purple states and in red states that are inching to purple instead of in states that are become by redder, like Alabama.

[sarisataka]

84. We present our message

And keep hammering on the failings and hypocrisy of the Republican platform.

We may not win this election or even the next but we are at least in the long term game. We can't expect to turn voters if we yield and let them only hear one side.

[atreides1]

108. Messages only work!

If people are willing to listen...Alabama, along with much of the South refuse to listen! They have their guns, god, and their deep seated beliefs that blacks are inferior and people like you are nothing more then liars trying to deny them their "God" given freedoms!

Most of the laws in the South were polished to adhere to federal guidelines and standards, but they still continue to make it difficult for minorities to vote, they go out of their way to make sure that blacks are treated lower then whale excrement, and their blind faith in their religious beliefs have hardened them against anything you can tell them!

Your facts are the stuff of nightmares to them, for them to admit that a black person can be an equal goes against every aspect of their being!!!

The laws in most of the South are nothing more then polished turds, but they are still turds!!

[sarisataka]

111. So we simply

Abandon the Southern blacks and white dems, saying 'too many of your neighbors won't listen; we aren't going to make more than a token effort for you". Does that sound like a winning strategy?

If you look at the electoral map, we concede half the votes needed to reach the White House. It is an uphill battle to retake DC and we insist on doing it handcuffed.

[DrDan]

86. would you have classified Ohio, Penn, Wisc, MI as purple prior to the election?

yet the GOP walked away with those electoral votes

[LeftishBrit]

114. Ohio? Of course. Wasn't it the determining state for the GOP in 2004?

On checking, all these states except Michigan have a Republican senator. Pennsylvania elected Santorum in the past!

It's always wise to be pessimistic about elections. As shown by Brexit over here.

[Dragonfly64]

88. I can't stay quiet on this....

I've been a lurker on DU for some time now - always reading posts and responses, but never feeling like I had anything to add to the conversation. I have just joined DU as a result of this comment. I moved to Alabama right after I graduated from college 31 years ago. I raised two beautiful, progressive, liberal children here. Am I ever ashamed of the image Alabama presents to the rest of the country? Without a doubt. But I love this state and will continue to fight from the inside to make it better. One of the reasons that Republicans continue to win elections here is because we have a weak democratic party that puts forward equally weak candidates. In Doug Jones, we finally have a candidate who could turn things around.

Remember, Roy Moore may have won this primary, but he was running in a closed primary against an opponent tainted by scandal and only 14% of republicans showed up. Yes, he has a cult following just like 45, but they are a minority. Hopefully most moderate republicans will stay home in December and if the Dems can GOTV we have a real shot.

I'd also like to say that we should never give up on ANY state if we want to make real change - we just have to be patient.

[Eliot Rosewater]

90. The backward, idiotic (not always based in racism, sometimes they are just stupid for the sake

of being stupid) and usually racist attitudes of many in the South is a huge problem.

Too bad it is not restricted to the "South", if it were we would not have how many is it, 32 GOP governors? A house and senate controlled by idiots aka republicans!


(I just looked it up, dear god it is 34 repubilcan governors, not one republican politician represents a single voter who has less than a million dollars in the bank, and yet look at how stupid MOST of the country is, not just the South)


Look, idiots might be concentrated in the South, but they are EVERYWHERE!

Welcome to the board.

[cwydro]

101. Concentrated in the south?

Nah, judging by this thread, I think we've got a good representation right here on this board.

Does it make you feel superior to judge an entire region? Smh

As I said in another post, it's so wonderful to see how tRump's divisiveness has taken root right here.

Bless your heart.

[Rhiannon12866]

96. Welcome to DU and thanks for weighing in on this

We have DUers from every corner of the country - and elsewhere - and we need every single one of us to make it through this national crisis. And we can't forget our 39th president who is also from the deep South and who continues to speak out. We're very glad to have you with us!

[mercuryblues]

127. +1000

[gopiscrap]

141. welcome to du

[misanthrope]

15. I've lived in Alabama for 53 years and the poster is more correct than not

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Alabama and some of its neighbors have been an albatross around the nation's neck for over two centuries now.

Does that mean everything stemming from the Deep South is anathema? No, but the ingratitude and intransigence toward the rest of the nation and the federal government in particular is maddening considering outside intervention, investment and aid have kept the Deep South from becoming an American Calcutta lo these many years.

In the last half-century, the Deep South and its id have moved outward and infected American politics in a way that is now tearing at the fabric of our nation.

[AJT]

80. Living in Wississippi, I mean Wisconsin, I must agree.

[muntrv]

110. I live in Michissippi, er Michigan.

[HughBeaumont]

112. SlowHio here.

Our dumbass state, Sherrod Brown & Marcy Kaptur notwithstanding, is now almost as deep-red as Texas is.

We are way too populated a state to be so goddamned idiotic. It's EMBARRASSING that Schtroumpf conned our rural and suburban voters so successfully.

[DrDan]

87. so the South is responsible for the ills of the country . . . gotcha

[yallerdawg]

106. I'm in Montgomery...

and I don't want to live in a country that elected Dotard Trump for president!

Montgomery voted for Hillary!

Can we secede?

[Ninsianna]

9. Can we look at the vote totals in a Republican primary before we start writing off the

state as a whole?

Moore is a bigoted idiot. MO has its own Indivisible groups, its own resistance and we're not to be underestimated

Have hope!

[LonePirate]

12. You might be able to win some local races but you are not going to win statewide races in AL.

As a whole, the people of the state are too backwards to allow the modern people in the state to join the rest of America in the 21st century. I wish you all the best. You have more patience than I do.

[Ninsianna]

16. We have to start somewhere.

Am I getting them mixed up with Mississippi? I seem to recall an equally backwards population that responded to being educated when they tried to pass one of those "sperm are people" laws.

I'm an optimist, what can i say?

[JI7]

29. i think those might have been some of the midwest states

i think it was missouri and indiana who had the "legitimate rape" type candidates and lost .

alabama is pretty much lost statewide but i still think it's important every single person who opposes moore go out and vote for the democratic candidate .

[GoneOffShore]

85. It's all about winning local races. That's how the Reps ended up controlling state houses

And states.

We need to convert one voter at a time.

[samnsara]

58. yes you are right and they have an even harder job to do...

...than say, us here near Seattle.

My dtr lived in Gallatin Tenn for 10 yrs and I visited often. I went to some of the dem functions and fundraisers and I follow them on twitter and FB. Wow they work hard to stay Blue down there. During the Obama campaign they were selling t shirts at a street fair and I never heard the N word so much in my life!!! From ppl just walking by the booth. So they work HARD in those Southern Red states to stay relevant.

I would love to see the local DEM groups from Red and Blue states 'sister' up and learn from each other....so each can become aware of the needs of the populations in different areas. Groups are saying "Well then Dem Party doesn't speak for me"...well then lets identify what the hell isn't being addressed!. The needs of the Dems of the PNW are different than the needs of Dems in Alabama. I mentioned this to my local Dem leaders and they thought it was too much work. However the Dem group in Gallatin thought it was a great idea!

That says something, but I'm not sure what.

[Ninsianna]

124. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

I'm hoping people are connecting and sharing their experiences and ideas through the various facebook groups. Ever since they splintered, that might be a bit harder, but I remain hopeful. I'm on one with people who worked on the campaign, volunteers organizers etc. who are now dispersed in various states who link together ask for assistance and advice etc.

Things like virtual phone banking, sharing of resources etc.

I have been running into people who are extremely upset with the party, with the way the "unity" commission is doing the exact opposite of its stated purpose, the attacks, the things that certain elements are encouraging, like the throwing over of women's rights, the focus on embracing the Nazis and the WWC, as if the working class of other colors and communities don't matter anymore to the only party that ever championed them.

[metalbot]

72. What was the voter turnout?

That would give you a better picture of what a "state" prefers

[moriah]

97. And your solution is to abandon them?

Look, we might not win the special election. We probably won't. But you know? We could.

The Democratic candidate who won the primary might not be perfect. None is. But he's not half bad. He is GREAT on civil rights, though I don't know where he stands on other issues. And we all know he's going to be better than Roy Moore.

So why DON'T we go ahead and try? Voter registration drives! GOTV! These elections are won by turnout. Only 14% of registered Republicans even bothered to vote in the runoff.

This is when we need to take a few lessons from our enemies -- sometimes your enemy is your best teacher, though what you ought to learn isn't obvious. Republicans usually turn out their base for midterms, primaries, and special elections. We don't. Republicans dared to take on the challenge of turning Arkansas red in 2010-today, and they successfully defeated the first incumbent Democratic Senator in our state since the Reconstruction, and the same asshat won a second term. Because they saw the opportunity in those midterms, and in the state, and the vulnerability of the Democratic incumbent that we ignored.

We have a GREAT opportunity to get people registered, help them get through the fucking hoops to actually vote in Alabama, and take advantage of Moore's many vulnerabilities. And if we never try we will NEVER succeed.

[LonePirate]

100. Yes. Resources like time, people and money are not infinite. They are better used elsewhere.

[moriah]

107. So what, should people in Alabama leave and do GOTV elsewhere?

Do any of their neighbouring states have a better place to direct their efforts over the next four months? What other state IS our best chance of getting one more Senate seat flipped before the 2018 midterms? Why can't we work in ALL states that could flip before then?

And why should we think to ignore these opportunities rather than try to take advantage of every opportunity we have???

We win just one of these seats and we're going to generate national momentum. Even coming CLOSE in Alabama would be a PR victory for what we can do in other states.

Look at my tagline. This IS the time for action. Don't blame lack of money -- figure out ways you can contribute to the efforts that don't cost you anything but time! People? Put your efforts into recruiting and energizing new fighters to stand against people like Roy Moore!

We are only limited by our vision. And yours appears very limited in this.

[LonePirate]

116. People in each state can make up their own minds.

I don't live in Alabama so are my time and money better utilized helping to win the Senate seat in AL or helping somewhere else with a much better chance of victory, like the NV Senate seat? The AL contest has the benefit of being the only event on the calendar in December (that I know of). People can choose how they wish to use their resources. You and I simply have different opinions on how worthy the AL race is for those resources.

[moriah]

123. I do think it's going to be people closer to or in AL who would be more beneficial...

... as people working om this now than, say, people on the West Coast. Or people who know Spanish, because they are definitely going to be more needed for NV than AL.

I'm only a few states away, I sound like a Southerner. I'm going to sound a lot more authentic calling Alabama voters than I am Nevada voters.

But a serious effort, preferably starting locally, to at least do something during these four months to try to take advantage of Moore sucking and our guy having the civil rights credentials... it's something I want to participate in if I can. And perhaps because of the balance of power and that Senators serve longer terms, I'm more willing to try a long shot on a special election for a Senate seat than I am a House seat flip (the GA attempt).

[cwydro]

6. Oh now, don't interfere with a good ole south bashing thread!

It helps people to feel superior, doncha know.

Never mind that all the latest racist crap we've been hearing is coming out of MA, PA, OH.

And let's not forget, the shitstain did NOT back Moore.

Both were crappy candidates. I'm glad the shitstain's candidate did not win.

[jalan48]

27. It's like the term, "White working class". Not everyone in a group thinks alike.

[adigal]

129. There are just a LOT more bad and racist people in the south

I did dog rescue from the south for the last 10 years. They are a different breed - and 50 years behind us. They see animals as property and they see people of color as people who should still be their slaves. Not all, of course!! But more than 1/2 and I wish we could just tell Alabama "You want to go now?? Bye bye!!" Cause as a NYer, I am sick and tired of sending my tax dollars to support red states who send people to DC to take away programs we need and love, and to take away civil rights from all of us.

[ornotna]

3. The south

Also gave us Annette Taddeo.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141875599

We’re not all troglodytes down here.

[DFW]

5. Some of the worst racists I have heard sound off are from Southie

oops, that's in Boston.

Over three million in Texas voted against Trump in the last election. How many in your state?

[cwydro]

7. Thank you DFW.

[m-lekktor]

11. I used to live near where he is talking about and he is correct!

I observed more blatant racism coming for southie assholes in Boston than i observed in Virginia when i was stationed there in the navy.

[SFnomad]

18. Since Texas has 4 times the population of Massachusettes a direct numeric comparison is disengenuous

So let's compare apples to apples ...

Texas Population - 27,862,596
Votes not for tRump - 4,284,179
Percentage of Texas - 15.4%

Mass Population - 6,811,779
Votes not for tRump - 2,234,153
Percentage of Mass - 32.8%

Percentage wise, Massachusettes voted against tRump at more than twice the rate, so please don't try to peddle how much more Texas voted against tRump, that won't fly.

And I live in Austin, probably the most anti-Trump area of Texas.

Population figures from here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population

Voting figures from here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016

[DFW]

24. Obviously

But to paint us all with a broad brush like that is just as obviously erroneous (which was my point).

[bobGandolf]

28. Oh no....do not put Boston...

in the same sentence as Southern states when talking racism. Boston has some racist like every other major city, but the southern states manufacture, and export racists.

[DFW]

35. I have lived in Boston and I have lived in Dallas

It no fairer to say all of the South is like rural Alabama than it is to say all of Boston is like Southie. And in Southie, there are not just "some" racists. I find it more extreme there than in University Park in Dallas by several multiples.

Pointing fingers from a high horse shouldn't be the norm for Democrats from ANY region. Bad apples can be found everywhere. We don't have a monopoly on racism in the south any more than you have a monopoly on enlightenment elsewhere. One MILLION people voted for Trump in Massachusetts last year. That's not nobody, that's nearly a third of the whole state.

[raccoon]

47. Other day I was talking to a woman I know who grew up in Boston.

Other day I was talking to a woman I know who grew up in Boston. A Boomer. She said that while we were segregated in the south in those days in Boston they were segregated but not by law but they just lived in totally separate neighborhoods. Blacks did not live in the suburbs where she lived.

And wasn't it in Boston where they were protesting bussing later on?

[burnbaby]

61. have to jump in on this one

I was almost a part of bussing in the early 70s. Prior to that we all were segregated in our neighborhoods. I lived in the North end, the Irish lived in southie and so on. Each neighborhood took care of each other.

Senator Kennedy and Judge Garrett (not sure of spelling) decided they should end segregation and forced bussing on the City, Cambridge was also included in this. Instead of going to your neighborhood school you were bussed around the city.

Those who could get out did and moved to the suburbs surrounding Boston, my family being one of them.

It never worked, it took 20 years for Kennedy to admit it didn't work and he ended bussing.

Young children from all backgrounds and ethnicity were beat up, laughed at and had things stolen from them. It truly created haters.

I no longer live in MA, but still consider myself a Bostonian at times. Mostly during football season

[hack89]

66. Boston is more segregated.

that's how they deal with racial issues - they simply don't mix.

[cwydro]

70. In the 70s, Charlotte, NC and Boston were the pilot cities for busing.

I was one of those bused from my neighborhood school. People were upset, but there was no violence here in Charlotte.

Guess where there was violence? Schools buses with little black children chased and surrounded? Threats, fights, etc. Yeah, that was in Boston - so go try and sell that stuff somewhere else.

[steve2470]

92. excellent post! nt

[blogslut]

13. There are no racist fundie zealots in the rest of the country.

You heard it here first, folks.

[Mariana]

19. Please link to any post at any time that has claimed that.

There's no need to make shit up. It doesn't make the south look any better.

[DFW]

41. If it's any consolation

I seriously doubt blogslut's post was made with a straight face.

[cwydro]

50. That flew over your head, didn't it?

That was the whooshing sound you heard.

[GusBob]

14. Where are you from?

I have lived all over the South and Midwest

The most ignorant and racist folks I've known are from Northern Wisconsin. There's been stupider people some places and more bigoted people others

But the combo deal belongs to Northern Wisconsin rednecks

[GallopingGhost]

17. I always try to remember

that it is much harder to be a Democrat in a red area than a blue one. We need to strongly support our Dems who are fighting like hell while surrounded by Trumphumpers.

[sarah FAILIN]

21. Thank you

It's getting hard to see all this negativity when we are trying so hard.

[GallopingGhost]

23. It must be extra difficult.

I live in a county that is pretty evenly divided between Republicon and Dem. I saw very little pre-election support for Twitler in the way of signs or banners.

But, the other day I walked by a guy in the store who was wearing a Trump/Pence 2020 t-shirt. (BARF) My disabled child was with me. It took every ounce of self-control I possess to keep quiet.

Stay strong and thanks!

[DrDan]

64. thanks

[delisen]

20. James Traficant, Jr-Ohio, felon racist, inmate

[GoCubsGo]

49. Joe Walsh, Illinois, racist, misogynist, insulter of wounded war veterans

[edhopper]

22. Deny all you want

but the solid Red South is why the GOP controls the government.

[lindysalsagal]

33. Every 4 years: "How do we win the south?" For as long as I can remember.

Very often, they try to select a vp who might pull the south their way. That was supposed to be John Edward's job.

The south is always the weak link in the chain. They still think they're working on the plantations down there. Identity is all about the past, no matter how horrible it was. Anything modern is automatically bad.

[cwydro]

52. You're funny.

Really, you are.

[DrDan]

65. oh really - how did Pa, Wisc, Mich, Ohio vote in the last election?

[delisen]

67. Wisconsin is not in the South. Since 2010

it has been Republican.

Perhaps the issue is that Democrats in the so-called blue wall states have lost ground and the southern and certain western states have not been able to sufficiently increase the number of democratic representatives.

In terms of southern states-each has to be viewed and understood as unique if they are to once again be Democratic states.

Georgia has had years of migration to it from states outside the south. Many of the people coming in who are white, vote Republican.

Georgia has a very large African American population, which votes Democratic. For many election cycles people have anticipated that that Georgia Democrats would once again start winning statewide offices. After all, with such a solid base, Democrats should be able to turn out enough white liberal votes to win-yet it hasn't happened.

Perhaps a focus on one or two southern states would be productive.

[snooper2]

91. well bless your heart

[LanternWaste]

93. No more and no less that alleging, "the white male is why the GOP controls the government..."

No more and no less that alleging, "the white male is why the GOP controls the government..."

Sets and subsets can be a difficult, third-grade mathematics concept for the irrational and the biased.

[Eko]

26. As we all know Michele Bachmann

is a model to be looked upon. As someone who has had the luxury of living in the north east, south east, north west and south west I think you have no idea of what you are talking about.

[geardaddy]

137. Not just her, but also a lot of other reprehensibles in MN too

Rod Grams
Norm Coleman
Tom Emmer (the current rep for BS Bachmann's district)
Jason Lewis, former hate radio host. Now the rep in John Kline's district.
Erik Paulsen

And MN with the longest tenure of voting blue in presidential elections than any other state was dangerously close to going for the Dotard last November.

[still_one]

30. I live in California, and am glad of that, however, when I look at 2016, and observe that in those

critical swing states, many of them voted for a racist, sexist, bigot, and see that every Democrat running in those critical swing states for the Senate lost toe the incumbent, establishment, republican, with those Democrats being progressive by any standard, I am not so sure if the South is the only geographical location that doesn't has those traits

[Hoyt]

31. I live in the South, but don't mind the bashing. It's totally deserved, even though it's not only

region with ignorance, racism, etc.

[erinlough]

57. Ive been in most of the states in this country.

I’m not going to bash anyone, there are racists and bigots in all of them. I just have to say the south is different. The attitude of “you must be like me or you are wrong” is much stronger. I believe if you fit the religious and political southern ideal it would be wonderful, but anything different would be hard. That attitude is also in every state, but not so institutionalized.

[obamanut2012]

32. Y'all need to stop with bigoted posts like this

Because, they are bigoted, as well as glaringly ignorant and not factual.

And so, so insulting. Those of us who are southerners? IT IS OUR HOME.

[MichMan]

62. There is precedent for that

Maybe we should demand a literacy test to ensure only the "correct" people be allowed to vote.

[bluepen]

36. PLEASE spread that message far and wide so

people stop moving to the south at incredible rates as they flee from other regions of the country like desperate refugees.

The three most ignorant and racist people I’ve ever known were from upstate NY, western PA, and some place in Michigan. They didn’t even try to hide it. The best “stealth racist” I ever knew was from southern CA.

[flygal]

38. Yes! All areas have their problems and it's growing. NW Montana is a bastion for bigots now

and they elected a man who attacked a reporter.

[get the red out]

37. Yes

And I say that with my totally hick Kentucky accent too.

[yardwork]

39. I didn't know that Trump is southern.

[Orrex]

44. He's not, but if you want to take him, you're welcome to him!

[yardwork]

45. I don't. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of this OP.

[Orrex]

46. And I agree with you

As noted here.

[obamanut2012]

51. This -- or Pence, Palin, Portman, Nugent, etal

[Weekend Warrior]

40. I didn't realize the election had been held.

I'm from the south and we just unseated a conservative republican and replaced him with a democrat. One primary does not define a region.

[obamanut2012]

53. Florida? Me too -- that was exciting and unexpected!

[Orrex]

42. Yes, they're a bunch of racist fools

If they keep it up and really dedicate themselves, eventually they might be almost as racist and foolish as my neighbors here in western Pennsylvania.

[DFW]

43. If I recall the results of the electoral college last year

We are suffering because of how Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania voted (supposedly, anyway).

I guess if you're from Manitoba, then, yes, that's the south.

[cwydro]

55. OP never did say what pure state he's from.

Did he?

[DFW]

89. Makes no difference to me

Nirvana, maybe. But it's already enough of an uphill struggle for us southern Democrats without that kind of post to contend with. They must get their info about us from Fox Noise, seeing as how everything is so simple.

[GoCubsGo]

48. You haven't been to Michigan or central Pennsylvania, I take it?

Or, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, rural Colorado....?

[obamanut2012]

54. Gerrymandering has destroyed FL and NC

More Dem votes than GOP votes are placed in both states, but gerrymandering has destroyed them. And, in FL, we have flipped several districts the last few months.

I said this to you earlier, but will reiterate: your OP is non factual and shameful, and you should be embarrassed.

[Orsino]

56. Anyone hiding behind a non-Southern residency...

...should probably be thinking of cleaning his or her own house as well. It is a shame that we all suffer because of ignarant, racist voters all over the place:

[dalton99a]

83. Most Nazis in the news in Charlottesvile came from the north, especially Ohio

[HughBeaumont]

115. That map is fucking shameful and EMBARRASSING.

This country is chock-loaded with a bunch of lobotomized dumbasses.

[jcmaine72]

125. No shit.

These drool-dripping deplorable dimwits make travelling overseas an exercise in humiliation whenever the subject of politics comes up. I'm always at a loss trying to explain their rock-bottom ignorance and hollow-headed bigotry to my European friends. They're an absolute embarrassment to this nation and deserve the cultural marginalization they are currently undergoing.

[Orsino]

140. We in the South can own a bigger piece of the problem per capita...

...but maybe not by much? Racism is easy to recognize, but hard to quantify.

[LanternWaste]

60. You may want to check out the Southern Poverty Law Center's interactive maps

You may want to check out the Southern Poverty Law Center's interactive maps regarding the locations of domestic hate groups before making another unsupported allegation.

[DrDan]

63. feel better now? proud? You got to bash the South . . . .

your divisive comments are doing NOTHING to further our progressive cause . . . NOTHING

[Phentex]

73. I think the Russians are proud

less work for them to do here

[ileus]

77. We're supposed to hate "those" people, it's the progressive thing to do.

Remember they are our enemy.


I'm somewhat confused I live in Virginia "South" but we're a blue state so I can throw stones.

[FLPanhandle]

68. Whenever I get smug that Democrats don't engage in stupid broad brush thinking...

Someone here has to come along and post something mind-blowingly idiotic.

[DrDan]

69. thumbs up . . . I get so tired of these posts . . . I guess folks just have to bash someone

[cwydro]

71. Nice to see the divisiveness that the shitgibbon sows is taking root right here on DU.

Smh.

[sarisataka]

74. I love the smell of

Smug self-righteous stereotyping in the morning. It smells like,...

well actually it smells like a fetid cave


"To bad we all suffer because of how the South votes"
And we have people already writing off the state and saying we shouldn't put any effort into winning. Much easier to whine about states that are unwinnable and not even try. It does disenfranchise Democratic voters of that state more effectively than any Republican tactic but hey if they were smart they wouldn't live there right?

[GusBob]

76. "to bad" (sic) the South is so ignorant

LOLZ, didn't catch that right off in the OP

[DFW]

94. Fluent Republicanese!

EXCERPTS FROM THE OFFICIAL DICTIONARY OF REPUBLICANESE

In Republicanese, many words that sound alike may be spelled differently at random.

In Republicanese, the following words may be spelled at random using any of the three ways given:

A.) Two, Too, To
B.) Their, They're, There
c.) Your, Yore, You're

The Republicanese version of Robin Hood therefore starts with "In days of you're...."

The only rule is that the correct use of them as in English is never permitted twice in a row.

Words with single letters that change meaning when a letter is doubled must never be used in correct English context. The classic example is “lose” vs. “loose.” In Republicanese, if you do not win an election, then you “loose” that election. Conversely, if your (Republicanese: you’re) belt is too tight, you need it more “lose” in order to be comfortable. Another example would be the Republicanese, “I met Donald Trump, and he was rudder than I imagined,” vs. “I grabbed the ruder and was able to steer the boat to shore.”

In Republicanese, an apostrophe is used to form a plural, but it must be done at random, never systematically. For example, Bill and Hillary are "the Clinton's," but Bill, Chelsea and Hillary are "the Clintons." The other way around is also correct. In Republicanese, either form is correct as long as it is not spelled the same way twice in a row.

[dawg]

98. Your funny.

People should be more careful about proofreading there posts.

[sarisataka]

121. .

[TrishaJ]

78. "The South," hunh?

Last I saw Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are NOT in the South. What is THEIR excuse for making the rest of us suffer - even in "The South" - for the way THEY voted??

[Lotusflower70]

79. Seriously?

That's incredibly divisive. Broad, sweeping generalizations help no one. The population variations determine who wins elections. Gerrymandering is something that has been ignored for too long. My family is in Texas and very much democrat. I live in the North and I have all over out East, it's not like racism has disappeared from these areas either.

[mcar]

81. WI, PA and MI are in the South?

How about WY, ND, SD, KS. Are they in the South?

Even MA has a Republican gov now.

Here in FL, we are working hard to elect Democrats. In fact, one just did get elected to the State Leg last night (congrats Annette Taddeo!).

My little red county has an Indivisible chapter and about a half dozen Democratic party clubs. We just chartered a Florida Democratic Women's Club chapter and I'm volunteering as 1st VP.

Alabama's national elections may be a lost cause for now but that doesn't mean progress isn't being made. The D contender there may surprise us all. And, if Moore gets in, all his crazy ass statements will belong to McConnell and the whole party.

Please stop with the broad brush attacks on a region. The south ain't perfect and I'm the first one to complain about it. But there are Democrats here. We're working hard to change things, one election at a time.

[HughBeaumont]

117. Don't forget SlowHio, now as deep-red as Texas.

This state voted for Obama TWICE.

How could we put the Asswipe in Chief in by a greater county percentage than even Bush??

What the hell is WRONG with us?

[NobodyHere]

95. Lots of bigotry on DU today

Lots of broad brushes

[cwydro]

104. Looks the the tRump divisiveness is catching right on.

Smh.

[lovemydogs]

99. It isn't the south - it's the quality of politicians these days

Every area of the country has their fair share of kooks and crooks.

What the problem is is the quality - or lack of - of our politicians these days. As well as big money and extremist sites that control so many of them.

[FiveGoodMen]

109. Anyone can aspire to a political life, but ...

The politicians that concern us are the ones who get elected, move up the ladder, and wield influence.

Their quality sucks because the quality of voters generally sucks.

Not just in the South, of course, but don't blame the individuals who rise to power while trying to excuse those who PUT them in power.

[redstatebluegirl]

102. Pretty much and I live in Oklahoma, they don't consider themselves the south, but it

sure feels like it.

[cwydro]

103. Might wanna use spell check next time ed.

I'm sure it's a typo and not "ignorance", right?

Lmao.

[edhopper]

113. My spellcheck didn't highlight anything

and my spelling is atrocious.
What did I misspell?

[cwydro]

119. Wail hail, how would a lil ole southerner lak me be able to correct a superior bein' such as yew?

Actually others have pointed it out in your thread, but mayhaps you ain't seen those responses yet?

[edhopper]

132. okay

guess I missed it, will look and fix.

[DrDan]

135. seems your well-placed sarcasm went rat over someone's haid

[muntrv]

105. That's right Alabama has produced such evil people like

Morris Dees, Bill Baxley.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Dees

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Baxley

[LittleBlue]

118. Dick Cheney and Karl Rove started us down this path during Bush 2

Cheney from Nebraska, Rove from deep blue Denver. It's really not that simple.

[GulfCoast66]

120. Looking forward to you next OP

Where you give Wisconsin the same treatment. But not holding my breath.

But if derideing our states makes you feel somehow superior due to the geography of you current residence then have at it.


Have a nice evening.

[jcmaine72]

122. To paraphrase Edward Longshanks from the movie Braveheart...

....the problem with the South is that it's full of white Southerners. There are literally millions of East & Central Africans and Latin Americans who would love the opportunity to become American citizens, and who would undoubtedly have a far better appreciation of living in a richly diverse society than the hopelessly deplorable, bigoted, backward, slack-jawed decedents of traitors and slavers. Therefore, a comprehensive and concentrated refugee and migrant resettlement program throughout the South would be just what the doctor ordered to bring it in more in line with real America.

Unless the demographics of the rural South can be radically altered, it will always be a bastion of bigotry, ignorance, racism and Christo-Fascism.

[Gothmog]

126. In Texas there is a saying to the effect-thank G-d for Mississippi and Alabama

Alabama and Mississippi exist to keep Texas from being number 50 or last in these rankings or issues

[mercuryblues]

128. I would love to be able to

make this a positive comment, but apparently I am too ignorant and a racist to know what that means. IOW Fuck off.

[doc03]

130. It's not just the south, I live in the eastern Ohio, PA and West Virginia area.

The south has no monopoly on ignorance and racism.

[guillaumeb]

131. Is "The South", your term, a monolith?

This might be such a broad brush as to require a team to hold it.

Definitely not recommended.

[GusBob]

133. HEY EINSTEIN WHY DON'T YOU MAN UP AND TELL US WHERE YOU ARE FROM?

What y'all afraid of? What are y'all trying to hide?
Stop being a coward and answer the question!

[Phentex]

134. I'm guessing New York

and it's based on previous comments. I am not sure though.

[edhopper]

138. Since you asked so nicely

No

[GreenEyedLefty]

136. Many DU members are from the South, so I defer to them

With that said, Michigan is a bastion of ignorance and racism. I do know this because I live here... many people don't consider "northern" areas as being such, but many are. I haven't read many replies to this thread but I would be surprised if other DUers don't echo this sentiment.

[Duppers]

139. Not just that but the god-humping too.

They erect those 50-foot crosses everywhere, especially down in Tennessee.

But when we ARE Liberal Progressives, and there are a number of us, we are as dedicated as any other blue state citizens. And speaking just for myself, I have as little tolerance for my neighbors as you guys do.


- a Virginia & Tennessee resident

And btw, this:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029643432

Charlie Pierce just now on Chris Hayes said that it was terrifying to him that 265,000 citizens would vote for Roy Moore.

Me too.