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struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:44 PM Oct 2017

Event was worse than his tweets

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 3:09 PM ET, Tue October 3, 2017

... * "It's a great trip. Your weather is second to none but every once in a while you get hit. And you really got hit" ...

* "You've thrown our budget a little out of whack. We've spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico" ...

* "General Kelly is a four star. You don't get any better than a four star" ...

The whole 13+ minutes is surreal ... Trump makes the whole thing about him -- using the various officials, military and otherwise, around him to reinforce the ideas that he is doing a great job. On display is someone wholly wrapped up in himself ...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/politics/trump-puerto-rico/index.html

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Event was worse than his tweets (Original Post) struggle4progress Oct 2017 OP
he's a sad, lonely, despicable shrew of a man spanone Oct 2017 #1
I Wonder if he has the self-awarness to feel sad or lonely. maddiemom Oct 2017 #25
he probably feels it and blames it on others. spanone Oct 2017 #27
That's an insult to actual shrews. geardaddy Oct 2017 #28
I'm not so sure that he isn't just a gas bag madokie Oct 2017 #29
an insult to bags of gas everywhere!!!!!!! spanone Oct 2017 #35
LOL geardaddy Oct 2017 #41
He is exactly like Saddam or Kim Jong Un, etc. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2017 #33
Exactly right JDC Oct 2017 #34
Um...five star? underpants Oct 2017 #2
There hasn't been a five star general since sharp_stick Oct 2017 #6
Still, that makes his statement demonstrably false. Atman Oct 2017 #8
Well yeah sharp_stick Oct 2017 #10
If Kelly was so great they would have unretired it. TeamPooka Oct 2017 #9
Oh Shit sharp_stick Oct 2017 #11
From what I've read and been told SonofDonald Oct 2017 #21
5th Star dentair152 Oct 2017 #24
Well, to be fair, with those tiny hands, he might not be able to count past 4 Siwsan Oct 2017 #3
Rico Visit a Disaster struggle4progress Oct 2017 #4
Tosses paper towels into crowd at church struggle4progress Oct 2017 #5
This was the best his staff could to in producing OldHippieChick Oct 2017 #23
What about their republican golf trophy? Achilleaze Oct 2017 #36
He's such an embarrassing idiot sharp_stick Oct 2017 #7
He squeels his braggadocio like a stuck pig lunatica Oct 2017 #12
Before the 4 star comment Trump said "Where's MY General Kelly?" TeamPooka Oct 2017 #13
"MY people..." throughout the speech. Disgusting. n/t Ineeda Oct 2017 #32
Thats king or dear leader type talk. He thinks he rules us. TeamPooka Oct 2017 #38
'We've Saved A Lot Of Lives' struggle4progress Oct 2017 #14
because water.... ut oh Oct 2017 #30
Grammar: We've done WELL [good] in Puerto Rico. SharonAnn Oct 2017 #40
Trump Embarrassed You Again Today struggle4progress Oct 2017 #15
Heckuva job, me struggle4progress Oct 2017 #16
Trump unpopular in Puerto Rico struggle4progress Oct 2017 #17
I just don't know how to react anymore. panader0 Oct 2017 #18
strugle 4 progress marieo1 Oct 2017 #19
Such lying distractions. lark Oct 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #22
He obviously isn't that great a sales/con man. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #26
OMG Timmygoat Oct 2017 #31
He really thinks he is funny and obviously has no sense of humor. gordianot Oct 2017 #37
The biggest a--hole on any planet The Blue Flower Oct 2017 #39

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,175 posts)
33. He is exactly like Saddam or Kim Jong Un, etc.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 06:13 PM
Oct 2017

Just uses people as props to bolster his image. In truth they are despised.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
6. There hasn't been a five star general since
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

Omar Bradley, I think. They retired the rank after his death.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
8. Still, that makes his statement demonstrably false.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:15 PM
Oct 2017

There can be a Five Star General. That IS better than a Four Star General.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
10. Well yeah
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:16 PM
Oct 2017

He's so useless I was cutting him a mile of slack on this one. That being said I'll bet a full paycheck the moron doesn't know that the rank has been retired.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
11. Oh Shit
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:17 PM
Oct 2017

don't give him any ideas or I'm afraid it'll be General of the Army Jared Kushner.

He can do that between meetings where he's fixing up the middle east.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
21. From what I've read and been told
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:08 PM
Oct 2017

A fifth star is only awarded during wartime to designate a theater commander or such.

dentair152

(9 posts)
24. 5th Star
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:15 PM
Oct 2017

Omar Bradley's fifth star is an interesting story. Bradley was selected to become Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and was a 4 star general. Douglas MacArthur was still in Japan. He would have outranked his superior. Congress promoted Bradley so they would be of the same rank. There was talk of awarding Colin Powell the 5th star after the First Gulf War. Takes an Act of Congress so it didn't happen.

Siwsan

(26,318 posts)
3. Well, to be fair, with those tiny hands, he might not be able to count past 4
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:52 PM
Oct 2017

He just has those 4 fingers - the thumb is hanging off to the side, so it is obviously a loser.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
4. Rico Visit a Disaster
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:04 PM
Oct 2017

DAVID A. GRAHAM
2:18 PM ET

... It was a typically strange, disjointed appearance by the president, and it came just days after Trump spent much of the weekend picking fights with the mayor of San Juan and insisting that, against all evidence, the recovery effort had largely responded to Puerto Rico’s needs. At Muñiz Air Force Base, Trump was eager to praise the work of federal agencies, including FEMA, the Air Force, the Navy, and the Coast Guard, amid a chorus of criticism that Washington’s response has been too slow and too small. But that praise led .. in strange directions.

"Every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here and what is your death count? Sixteen people, versus in the thousands," Trump said. "You can be very proud. Sixteen versus literally thousands of people."

That statement is .. in several ways. The idea that Maria was not a "real catastrophe" defies all evidence, and any discussion of the death toll is premature. While the official number remains at 16, where it has been for several days without update, officials have acknowledged it will end up much higher. The Center for Investigative Journalism reported Monday that "dozens" of people are dead, with bodies piling up in morgues, even as the official count has not kept pace. Trump’s decision to use Hurricane Katrina as a benchmark also makes little sense and belittles the suffering in Puerto Rico. Katrina is both the deadliest hurricane in U.S. history since 1928 and a prime example of a mismanaged disaster. Trump also overstated the toll of Katrina, which was less than 2,000 ...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/trump-puerto-rico-visit/541869/

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
5. Tosses paper towels into crowd at church
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:08 PM
Oct 2017

BY JACQUELINE THOMSEN - 10/03/17 02:27 PM EDT

President Trump employed an unusual method of distributing supplies to hurricane survivors ...

Trump stood behind a table covered in supplies for the victims while a crowd gathered in front ...

He then handed some packages of rice out to the crowd, before picking up packaged rolls of paper towels and throwing them into the crowd as if they were basketballs.

People caught two of the rolls, while another fell to the ground ...

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/353663-trump-tosses-paper-towels-into-crowd-at-puerto-rican-church

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
23. This was the best his staff could to in producing
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:12 PM
Oct 2017

a "friendly" moment, I guess. How embarrassing for him if he only knew it. What a champion of the Deplorables.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
36. What about their republican golf trophy?
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 06:21 PM
Oct 2017

Did the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief screw the victims out of their gourmet republican golf goof-off trophy that he dedicated to them? Sad. Stupid. Totally republican.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
7. He's such an embarrassing idiot
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:15 PM
Oct 2017

There is nothing he can do with even a hint of competence. His jokes fall flat and are usually tossed out at exactly the wrong time and place. He knows nothing about logistics or the place he's visiting.

A national embarrassment the likes of which I hope we never see again.

TeamPooka

(24,290 posts)
13. Before the 4 star comment Trump said "Where's MY General Kelly?"
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:22 PM
Oct 2017

every time he calls him "my general", he means "My little bitch"

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
14. 'We've Saved A Lot Of Lives'
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:28 PM
Oct 2017

... "I think it's now acknowledged what a great job we've done, and people are looking at that," he said. "And in Texas and in Florida, we get an A-plus. And I'll tell you what, I think we've done just as good in Puerto Rico, and it's actually a much tougher situation. But now the roads are cleared, communications is starting to come back. We need their truck drivers to start driving trucks" ...

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/03/555357192/trump-touts-relief-efforts-in-puerto-rico-we-ve-saved-a-lot-of-lives

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
15. Trump Embarrassed You Again Today
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

BY JACK HOLMES
OCT 3, 2017

The People's President is down in Puerto Rico today, learning more about how it's an island surrounded by "Big Water," and that it's actually full of United States citizens. Allow the president to explain, and to tell a joke about how Puerto Ricans are ruining the Trump administration's budget with all their requests for "food" and "drinkable water" and "rescue equipment" ...

It was done when he paid Puerto Rico no mind for days as the territory slipped into humanitarian catastrophe, attacking black professional athletes and, when he finally did address the crisis, largely blaming the island's debts for its troubles. It was done when he then went to his golf course this past weekend, and then a golf tournament ...

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12772874/trump-puerto-rico-ruin-budget/

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
16. Heckuva job, me
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:36 PM
Oct 2017

By Aaron Blake
October 3 at 1:24 PM

In President Trump's first public remarks in Puerto Rico, he shed almost no light on the federal response to the crisis there. What he did do was praise himself ...

It was a characteristically Trump performance: offbeat, impromptu, meandering and often highly suspect in its taste ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/03/heckuva-job-me-trump-just-favorably-compared-puerto-ricos-death-toll-to-katrina/?utm_term=.564c2ee4b585

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
17. Trump unpopular in Puerto Rico
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 04:39 PM
Oct 2017

Danica Coto, Associated Press

... "He's a piece of trash," Rachel Cruz, a linguist, said as she headed home after buying groceries in the capital, San Juan. "He makes a fool out of himself and a fool out of his country" ...

Angel Tomas Crispin, manager of a convenience store that was doing brisk business as people sought to restock basic supplies, didn't have kind words for the president. "Donald Trump is not the solution for Puerto Rico," he said ...

Luis Torres, a retiree taking an evening walk with his wife, Marina, said Trump isn't welcome ...

http://www.dentonrc.com/news/donald-trump/2017/10/03/trump-unpopular-puerto-rico

lark

(23,191 posts)
20. Such lying distractions.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:00 PM
Oct 2017

He doesn't like what his 2, count them 2, 3 star generals are saying that the relief effort is totally inadequate so he invents Kelly being a 5 star general and tries to make it sound like that guy says they are doing great. It's just lies stacked on lies stacked on no heart or caring at all about anyone who's not rich and white. He's totally happy to let the people of PR and VI die en mass, and of course will continue to lie until the pictures come out then will invent another distraction so prevent these pictures from dominating the news and stupid news hacks will go along.

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

BigmanPigman

(51,650 posts)
26. He obviously isn't that great a sales/con man.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:20 PM
Oct 2017

No one believes his BS about Puerto Rico or Las Vegas. I take that back, probably his Fux Ruse base believes him. Hillary was too kind by merely calling them "deplorables".

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
31. OMG
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 06:07 PM
Oct 2017

I just saw Trump on TV, he was throwing food bags to the people for them to catch, it was so tacky and rude, as though they were animals, I could not believe my eyes, he was downright rude to the mayor and just about everyone else, what a dreadful man he is.

The Blue Flower

(5,451 posts)
39. The biggest a--hole on any planet
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 07:07 PM
Oct 2017

Thank goodness Oxfam is stepping up. The creature lacks even the most basic humanity.

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