Prepare the women in your life, who are all soon to be criminals

[Eliot Rosewater]

Last edited Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:49 PM - Edit history (3)

if they are pre menopause,that in the case of back alley abortions to stock up on antibiotics now.


(this is mean to be patronizing the way the GOP is to make a point, if that wasnt obvious I apologize, like I said below, I tried to be rational last year warning people, that didnt work, you kept telling me both candidates were the same, some of you anyway)


this was stupidly worded on my part, I would delete it but too late. Apology to all women for this dumb attempt at hyperbole.

[samnsara]

1. i offer my place as part of the underground railroad...

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. When Sessions forces Calif to comply, there will be much violence. Which is what they want

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. Or, you know, do some of the heavy lifting on their behalf, such as calling, marching and

protesting.

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. Implication is I am not doing that now.

So I should shut up about it here and do what exactly other than a long list that I could provide you that I am already doing?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. Women would rather see the men in their lives speaking out and working hard on their behalf,

instead of taking a scene directly out of the Handmaid's Tale and saying, "don't worry, babe, I'll take care of you."

[Eliot Rosewater]

10. Yeah, doing the opposite with sarcasm and anger.

I tried that last year, appealing rationally to people, but they said both candidates were the same and stayed home or voted for Stein.

Nope, now it is time to be outrageous and loud otherwise women will start dying in those back alleys.

I am attempting to use THEIR behavour (GOP) of how to treat women to make the point.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. "I am attempting to use THEIR behavour (GOP) of how to treat women to make the point."

Not only is it not working, you're also pissing off people you claim to be trying to help. Not doubling down might work.

[cwydro]

44. You joined this site AFTER the election

So please explain who you were trying to "rationally appeal" to.

No one on this board said both candidates were the same.

[mcar]

26. Where did Eliot say that?

[cyclonefence]

33. Oh dear

OP was pro-woman, pro-choice. I don't understand the anger.

[cwydro]

4. Not all "pre-menopausal women" are going to get pregnant.

Just an FYI.

[BainsBane]

23. I don't have to be pregnant to recognize

my basic rights are under attack.

[cwydro]

24. And I don't need a man to mansplain my rights to me either.

Nor does anyone I know.

[BainsBane]

65. You prefer the posters argue that women need to sacrifice their rights

so that white men can win and fill their pockets?

I'll take allies wherever I can find them, and I sure as hell am not going to argue people shouldn't support equal rights because I don't happen to like them. And it fucking pisses me off that you object more to this than the dozens of threads we've seen arguing that the Democratic Party needs to abandon abortion rights.
If you want to make yourself a second class citizen, that's your problem, but don't take the rest of us down with you.

[cwydro]

66. Lol.

Missing point.

[BainsBane]

67. Oh, I see it

very clearly. You couldn't be more transparent.

[cwydro]

68. Aw.

You're sweet,

[cwydro]

6. The tone in your OP is just a tad condescending.

"Prepare the women in your life".

Seriously?

[Eliot Rosewater]

7. Meant to show my FURIOUS anger at the GOP who are going to be telling women

what they can and cant do, so why not act like them and treat women like objects

etc

In order for their sick behavour to be obvious

I do this all the time with everything, seems last year people thought both candidates were the same, so evidently we need much louder stuff, much more obnoxious

[cwydro]

14. "Why not act like them?"

Dude, really?

[George II]

43. You don't get the "poetic license" or sarcasm?

[cwydro]

45. Lol.

This OP is trying to push something I'm not buying.

He keeps saying that people here called both candidates the same. NOPE. Didn't happen.

OP joined AFTER the election. Something a wee bit odd here.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. It's like women don't even know.

[cwydro]

13. I know, right?

It's good we have these men to mansplain all of this complicated stuff for us.

[demmiblue]

11. Yeah, kind of patronizing. n/t

[Raine]

12. yes and lots of women prepare ahead of time

by using birth control.

[Ilsa]

25. If they can still get it.

Lots of clinics which provide contraception have been shut down.

And contraception doesn't always work.

[cwydro]

15. Bad OP fella.

You keep trying to explain it - that should be your first clue that it ain't working.

No women need any man to "prepare" us for any damn thing.

[Eliot Rosewater]

16. Yeah, the post is meant for men, not women, I would never talk to women like this

But overall it is meant to get attention since nothing worked last year.

Pretty much every word I type on this board is meant to remind people what happened when people claimed both candidates were the same etc

[cwydro]

17. I don't know a single soul on this board who thought both candidates were the same.

What in hell are you on about?

[Eliot Rosewater]

18. have a nice day

[demmiblue]

19. It is a bullshit meme that is meant to divide us. n/t

[cwydro]

21. I think you're spot on.

Something very off about this thread.

[Eliot Rosewater]

22. Mine?

Oh hell no.

I would never divide liberals or democrats. Never.

If that is what you are meaning, especially after everything else I have said on this board, then it is bullshit and everyone can see that.

Everything I say here, absolutely everything, is focused on how what we are now experiencing was avoidable but certain folks just didnt want to hear it.

[cwydro]

29. Please tell us who on this board said both candidates were the same.

Got a link?

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. Have a nice day

[cwydro]

32. The answer I expected.

Can't back up what you said, can you?

Too funny.

[ms liberty]

27. Poster has mentioned that point specifically in several replies

Almost like its the real message being catapulted...

[cwydro]

28. Yes, it's pretty obvious.

He should stop while he's ahead (or behind, as it may be).

[ms liberty]

37. News flash: there are lots of women on DU, so you did talk to women like that

And I for one do not need you to warn me of what we may lose, nor do I require you to prepare me for anything. I'm old enough to remember a world before womens reproductive and civil rights, and as a woman I am far more aware of the stakes than any man could be. Your post is insulting.

[Eliot Rosewater]

38. I was using sarcasm and hyperbole to point out what gop men are doing with

laws like this

If it was insulting, I truly apologize

[cwydro]

41. Thank you.

Ditto.

[melman]

34. You tried to warn people?

How so? Your registration date is a month after the election.

"you kept telling me both candidates were the same, some of you anyway"


Here? That can only mean you were here under a different name. Why aren't you still here under that name?

[cwydro]

36. Good luck getting an answer from this one.

Strangely silent on this question.

[melman]

39. Oh I know there will be no answer

But I've noticed that this poster mentions quite often how dangerous it is to speak their mind, how they fear they'll be silenced etc. Makes a bit more sense now.

[cwydro]

40. Lol, I've noticed the same.

Quite a tell.

[George II]

42. Did you forget that DU was down for about a month starting on Election Day? Many people....

....had difficulty getting back on when DU came back up so they re-registered under new names.

Why are you so concerned with others' personal business?

[melman]

46. Concerned with personal business?

How so? Where are you seeing this concern?

[George II]

49. This isn't showing concern? This is the post I responded to:

"Here? That can only mean you were here under a different name. Why aren't you still here under that name? "

Glad you liked my sig line. Feel free to use it yourself.

[melman]

57. It's not so much that I like it

It's that I know what it means.

[George II]

59. I got it from one of your friends, thank you.

[sheshe2]

64. I know what it means!

.....................it was posted to me. they thought I was to stupid to understand. I wasn't.

[George II]

75. But you never addressed this, your unusual level of concern:

"Here? That can only mean you were here under a different name. Why aren't you still here under that name? "

[cwydro]

47. I had no problem getting back on, neither did most long term posters here.

How funny you've jumped on this particular thing.

Things that make you go hmmm...

[George II]

48. Some people did. You have statistics on "most long term posters"? I had a problem but didn't....

....want to start a new account, too me almost two weeks for the problem to be worked out.

What are you implying......................hmmm....?

[cwydro]

50. If you've been here awhile, then I have no need to point out long term posters to you.

I know who they are, and they know who they are.

These sudden "after the election" new accounts are something I find a bit strange. Especially this OP who claims he saw people calling the two candidates the same. He still has yet to show me someone who said that.

Bye now Georgie.

[George II]

51. But I don't know how many had problems getting back on or how many didn't, cwydroie! You did.

[cwydro]

52. Good on ya dude.

This has nothing to do with how the OP has not answered questions regarding his claim of posters here saying the two candidates being the same.

Obviously, you and he are close. perhaps you could ask him to respond?

[George II]

54. We're not close, but I presume he's not interesting people prying.

[cwydro]

56. LMAO, HE is the one saying people here called both candidates the same.

You gotta back up what you say.

Prying? Omfg.

[melman]

60. Seriously

Prying.

[cwydro]

62. I know.

I gotta feeling on this one.

I guess we'll stay tuned.

[radical noodle]

74. FYI

BTW, this is not refighting the primary, it's about backing up the fact that there were those on here who thought they were the same.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511927689

Just one instance.

[sheshe2]

55. I did have trouble. Am I suspect now?

I have not been here as long as you...yet 5 years is still a long time for an active poster.

Hmmmm. Not sure why you are making this an issue. EarlG got me on moments after I emailed him. They made it clear that their would be issues. I guess I haven't been here long enough to avoid doubt. That hurts.

[cwydro]

58. Nope, I know who you are, as do most here.

Any long time person would do just as you did, and email an admin.

I did too.

I'm annoyed at this poster saying that there were people on this board calling both candidates "the same".

I asked him for a link. He disappeared. That's the only issue I have.

[sheshe2]

63. Not sure...

Think they meant both parties were said to be the same. SS said as much. She said don was better than Hill as well.

You know... have to say that don is killing our citizens in Puerto Rico.

Read this and cry,

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029669711

I do not have time for this stuff. People are dying and the body count will be huge. Time to focus on what is truly important and that is peoples lives. Ten, Ten!!@! Morgue containers arrived in Puerto Rico. They house 300 bodies per container. Focus.

[herding cats]

73. FWIW, many did have issues

I was on MIRT at the time of the hack, and it was a thing we had to deal with at the time. Many people changed their names and came back under a new one because they couldn't access their old account due to having lost access to the email they used when they originally signed up. We just sent them up to the admin to verify when we ran across them if we couldn't get a reply as to who they were previously. If the admin let them stay, we assumed it was a legit name change and we moved on.

In the end it's a forum moderation issue and not for us to delve into.

[Afromania]

35. facking idiocy

Between this, their attacks on family planning centers and general health care. The red states and/or rural areas better get ready for a boom in maternal mortality rates.

But hey, on the plus side there will be new jobs created in the mortuary field. Boosted in particular by newly minted demand for fetus burial and cremation.

[MuseRider]

53. I'm pretty sure

we can handle that ourselves. Why is it always assumed we can't find our own asses without help, presumably male help?

[Eliot Rosewater]

61. Poor attempt at sarcasm and hyperbole on my part, sincerest apologies.

I sincerely apologize to the women of the board for what was a dumb attempt at my usual obnoxiousness about last year.

[Ninsianna]

70. Have you seen the House bill that was passed today?

I'm pretty sure you missed the sarcasm in the OP, but it won't matter how we can "handle ourselves" if our doctors can be jailed for 5 years for merely taking care of us when we face a dire situation around the time we do amniocentesis and get ultrasounds letting us know the status and health of our pregnancies.

GOP doesn't really care about helping us, they just want to appease the misogynistic idiots who vote for them and think a 20 week ban is a great idea, no matter how often sane, intelligent people tell them otherwise.

[MuseRider]

72. Of course I have seen it.

I was not talking about the bill but then you knew that.

Please stop answering me with your attempts to always point me out as not too bright or missing the point. I know you are not the person who keeps telling all of us all how smart it is you just hang with it but really, I know about the bill. I was talking to the OP about something different.

[LeftInTX]

69. You mean the 20 wk abortion ban passed by the House?

It won't pass the senate

[Ninsianna]

71. They are desperate to feed their base something, and there are a whole horde of

them who voted for Trump just on abortion. Do not underestimate the GOP and their desperation.

This is a terrible bill and was one every other time Franks introduced it and passed it, they only need to to get it through the Senate somehow and Trump will sign it and the Supreme Court will uphold it.

This attacks women at the most vulnerable time, AND their doctors. Remember that the reason doctors were terrified to give that lady they killed in Ireland a much needed D&C is that the have laws on the books that criminalizes any doctor performing an abortion, as this one does. There it was a life sentence, and here it's 5 years, but that's kinda one of those things that's going to affect people, either by frightening away doctors and hospitals or by picking off the doctors who are willing to uphold their professional and ethical duties.