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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:26 PM Oct 2017

Let Me Tell You About The Rifle I Need to Purchase

What is the reasoning behind the need for an assault rifle to hunt with? How can people selling these things rationalize setting up a buyer with equipment that could take out a small town?

1.It needs to be semi-automatic that is easily convertible to full automatic. Ah, you can just throw in a bump fire stock.
Reasoning: Animals just don't want to die after being hit by only a few rounds. I need to put at least twenty rounds into an animal.

2.It needs to be powerful enough to carry at least four hundred yards while maintaining decent accuracy.
Reasoning: Look, I'm sitting in my blind with my beer, all comfy. I don't want to come out and actually have to move in closer to the animals I want to murder.

3.It needs to come with a clip that holds at least fifty rounds, and I need to buy at least ten clips to go with it.
Reasoning: See number two. I'm comfy in here, dammit!

4.It needs to come with a suppressor.
Reasoning: I'm enjoying the nice quiet of the outdoors, and I don't want to disturb the other animals that I don't want to murder (for the moment).

5.I'm going to need at least 1,000 rounds of ammo to go with that order.
Reasoning: I'm a really bad shot and need a hell of a lot of ammo in order to bring down one animal.

6. You know what, let me buy a dozen of those rifles.
Reasoning:

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Let Me Tell You About The Rifle I Need to Purchase (Original Post) ProudLib72 Oct 2017 OP
What if the animals are wearing armor? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #1
Bullets only the army is supposed to have ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #4
Only a dozen? Hell, that's just for the storage locker alone. VOX Oct 2017 #2
That gets into the seller's rationale ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #5
Why would a gun dealer ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #8
you fucking know it doesn't maxsolomon Oct 2017 #11
Now I'm really confused ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #13
you really must be new to this debate maxsolomon Oct 2017 #14
No worries ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #15
stick around these threads after DU's gunners resurface maxsolomon Oct 2017 #16
Don't be too quick to believe everything you read here Lurks Often Oct 2017 #20
A NICS check doesn't disclose purchase history to the seller. Unless the buyer is a repeat customer Marengo Oct 2017 #10
Aha! ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #18
I doubt that will happen in the foreseeable future. At any rate, would you say collectors of... Marengo Oct 2017 #21
There are always going to be some outliers ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #22
Amassing an arsenal of weaponry apkhgp Oct 2017 #3
What About -Its needs to be able to take out the Guber-mint? Stallion Oct 2017 #6
Most hunters don't use rifles like that Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #7
No reason required because they're just toys, not tools... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #9
And no one ever admits that it's a huge adrenaline rush to just blast away at the range. VOX Oct 2017 #17
Agreed ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #19
And wander to the river and catch a fish for dinner. raven mad Oct 2017 #12

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. What if the animals are wearing armor?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:28 PM
Oct 2017

You need armor piercing bullets. And more beer if you are going to shoot 1,000 rounds.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. Bullets only the army is supposed to have
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:34 PM
Oct 2017

Yes, that an absolute necessity! You know, there is that playing soldier fantasy that is surely a contributing factor in some of these shootings.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
2. Only a dozen? Hell, that's just for the storage locker alone.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:31 PM
Oct 2017

You can get another 18-20 in your single-wide. Can't be too over-prepared when hunting varmints.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
5. That gets into the seller's rationale
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:38 PM
Oct 2017

If a seller does a background check and sees that a person already owns a dozen rifles, you would think that he/she would question why the buyer needed more. It should, at least, give the seller pause and maybe prompt some questioning.

But gunhumpers are gunhumpers, and they understand you can never have too many guns.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
8. Why would a gun dealer
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:45 PM
Oct 2017

Care how many guns a buyer legally owns? I'm not sure why anyone needs a dozen guns but it isn't illegal and isn't the gun dealer's place to place limits on purchases. The states (some have in the past) and federal government can do that.

Does a background check even show how many guns an individual has purchased?

maxsolomon

(33,620 posts)
11. you fucking know it doesn't
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:01 PM
Oct 2017

BTW, gun dealers sometimes refuse to sell to people who seem unstable. why is that their place?

"welcome to DU".

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
13. Now I'm really confused
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:06 PM
Oct 2017

I "fucking know" what doesn't? That a background check shows number of gun purchases? I have no idea what a background check does or does not show. I've never seen one or had the contents described to me. That's fairly rude to be frank.

Refusing to sell a weapon to someone who seems unstable strikes me as a completely different animal than refusing to sell a firearm to someone who already has other firearms simply because they have other firearms. But I applaud the store that makes the call to refuse to sell to someone who appears unstable.

Thanks for the welcome.

maxsolomon

(33,620 posts)
14. you really must be new to this debate
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:10 PM
Oct 2017

not tracking purchases or the number of weapons one owns is a dearly-held tenet of gunner theology.

when a low-count DUer throws out bait of this sort I suspect the worst. sorry.

maxsolomon

(33,620 posts)
16. stick around these threads after DU's gunners resurface
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:16 PM
Oct 2017

you'll learn lots that will make you blanch.

did you know that well-regulated has nothing to do with the militia itself, but only with their weapons functioning well? I learned it on DU.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
20. Don't be too quick to believe everything you read here
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 05:14 PM
Oct 2017

and if in doubt, I strongly recommend doing your own research.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
10. A NICS check doesn't disclose purchase history to the seller. Unless the buyer is a repeat customer
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:57 PM
Oct 2017

Or otherwise known to the seller, prior purchases would be unknown.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
18. Aha!
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:42 PM
Oct 2017

New piece of legislation needed.

This isn't like buying paper towels to clean up an island. This is about one person's questionable reasoning behind owning an arsenal. I don't want to hear any arguments against such a record based on the logistics of creating and maintaining such a record over state borders and decades. If conservatives thought it was a good idea, you wouldn't see any red tape holding them back.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
21. I doubt that will happen in the foreseeable future. At any rate, would you say collectors of...
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 11:17 PM
Oct 2017

Firearms, especially those of historic significance, have a justifiable reason to own a large number?
I know of some collections of military surplus arms of various past periods, world wars one and two for example, that number in the dozens or more. Mostly bolt actions, but semiautos as well.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
22. There are always going to be some outliers
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 11:49 PM
Oct 2017

Special dispensation can be afforded. If the registry is complete, then it should be clearer whether or not the person is collecting historical pieces. I know what you're thinking. What if they are collecting pieces from, say Vietnam or even Desert Storm? I admit, there are gray areas.

Wounded Bear

(59,068 posts)
9. No reason required because they're just toys, not tools...
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:49 PM
Oct 2017

They are for all of the "Man with no Name" and "Roland Deschain" wannabes out there who think they're gonna save the world.

Life is just a live action first person shooter game to them.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
17. And no one ever admits that it's a huge adrenaline rush to just blast away at the range.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:25 PM
Oct 2017

Defending gun-loving behaviors gets all couched in 2nd Amendment "liberty lingo" and "Don't Tread on Me" posturing, when, in fact, it's a major power-rush to empty a 30-round mag into a silhouette target. If your a poor-to-bottom-middle-class white male who can't find work, and your life is a shambles, the shooting-rush is a quick symptomatic fix for one's troubles. It's never enough, though, as the multiple hardware purchases stack up.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
19. Agreed
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:56 PM
Oct 2017

Hey, I've gone "out shootin'" a few times in my life. It's super fun to put holes in cans or paper targets, to see if you can close your spread. Here's the thing. I used bb guns and an ancient pump action .22 to have my fun. While I imagine that letting loose a hail of larger caliber bullets is much more fun, it isn't absolutely necessary to enjoy the gun range.

BTW: A few years ago, I served on a jury in a case involving a man who accidentally shot his dog. It turned out that this man owned a semi-automatic .22 with a banana clip that he kept fully loaded with the safety off right next to his bed. The story was that, in the middle of the night, his dog crawled under his bed and farted. Half asleep, he reached for something to poke at the dog to get her to move. What he grabbed happened to be his gun. Several rounds were fired while he was "poking" his dog.

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