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Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 10:23 PM Oct 2017

LV shooter's brother knows something.. He knew.

Deleted earlier post for this better link

Listen lose to the end he talkes about the bump stock and how he knew...

Gag alert. This guy has NO empathy for victims and spews defense of his brother


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LV shooter's brother knows something.. He knew. (Original Post) Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 OP
That is really disturbing Phoenix61 Oct 2017 #1
think you're right D_Master81 Oct 2017 #2
I'd be an effing basket case Phoenix61 Oct 2017 #3
He keeps talking about Steve with almost no regard for victims. Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #4
He almost says something important Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #5
He comes across as a jerk. Lifelong Protester Oct 2017 #6
He does give an enormous amount of energy to emphasizing his brother's wealth Siwsan Oct 2017 #7
Yes.. at one point a reporter asked him " what about the victims?" Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #9
I wonder if he, or maybe his Mom, are beneficiaries of the killer's estate Siwsan Oct 2017 #10
I hope the estate goes to the victims nt Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #11
I would imagine the victims can sue the estate. Siwsan Oct 2017 #12
Something seems bdamomma Oct 2017 #8
There are a lot of conspiracies online surrounding this guy bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #13
I have wondered about the brother. lovemydogs Oct 2017 #14
I don't agree with your assessment of his brother's statement. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #15
Empathy, folks. Nevernose Oct 2017 #16
If you have not had the experience of learning that your brother just committed murder, Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #17

Phoenix61

(17,004 posts)
1. That is really disturbing
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 10:34 PM
Oct 2017

I'm not sure exactly what's off but something is really, really off. It feels like he is enjoying all the attention.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
2. think you're right
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 10:35 PM
Oct 2017

Cant say I know his head or heart, but if my brother shot up a concert and 50+ people died, I wouldnt be giving all these interviews, I want to stay away from it.

Phoenix61

(17,004 posts)
3. I'd be an effing basket case
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 10:38 PM
Oct 2017

lucky to figure out how to get dressed let alone have a dialog with multiple people about what he had done. About the only thing I'd be saying is I'm sorry, I'm just so , so sorry, I didn't know.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
7. He does give an enormous amount of energy to emphasizing his brother's wealth
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 10:58 PM
Oct 2017

That whole story about eating 'thousands of dollars worth of sushi' with his brother, was just strange. I thought, during an earlier interview, he said that he hadn't seen his brother in 10 years.

This is a prime example of how it would have been much better to just say "No comment."


Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
10. I wonder if he, or maybe his Mom, are beneficiaries of the killer's estate
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 11:22 PM
Oct 2017

That might be some of what was behind his rather maniacal behavior.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
12. I would imagine the victims can sue the estate.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 11:30 PM
Oct 2017

As long as the poor Mom is taken care of, I think everything else so go to the victims.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
8. Something seems
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 11:03 PM
Oct 2017

really off about this case, oh the brother is weird too, he talks too much and should be hiding his head in shame.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
13. There are a lot of conspiracies online surrounding this guy
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 11:35 PM
Oct 2017

I don't buy what the right-wing and 4chan loons are spreading online. But I do think his brother is a bit off-kilter. I'm sure if the media was camped out in front of my house for days I'd be acting a little weird, too. I dunno... Some folks deal with grief differently than others in this crazy world.

Another report in the conservative National Review was posted under the headline "Based on the Early Reports, the Las Vegas Shooting Is Very, Very Strange". It went on to ask questions about how Paddock had got hold of his huge cache of weapons, the fact that his father was also involved in a violent incident in Las Vegas, and a potential connection to Isis.

Other reports questions whether there was more than one shooter during the attack. Though there were initial reports that there could be more than one gunman, those appear to have been the result of the confusion during the attack, and videos circulating online that claim to "prove" there was more than one shooter appear to be identifying an illusion caused by echoes.

But people including Infowars boss and TV host Alex Jones suggested that Paddock had committed the atrocity because he was both a leftist and a jihadist. He said that he was "just like so many others that had converted to Islam, that was so angry about Trump and everything that was happening that he went out and carried out this attack" in a long ranting video.

He also suggested that the attack was connected to the release of OJ Simpson from a Nevada prison, just days before. The timing was helpful because it meant that the news media would be in the state and ready to ensure that the massacre got the most possible attention, he suggested.


http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/stephen-paddock-motive-las-vegas-shooting-why-conspiracy-theories-isis-a7980886.html

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
14. I have wondered about the brother.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 11:38 PM
Oct 2017

He was way too eager to speak with media and talk about stuff.

And he was hardly in shock or broken up.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
15. I don't agree with your assessment of his brother's statement.
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 11:47 PM
Oct 2017

I did not hear any lack of empathy for the victims nor did he "know something" about the bump stock attachment. It seemed to me that he honestly said what we already know...which is that there is no known motive and would like to find one to help understand why this happened and how to possibly keep it from occurring again. I know that the shooter was great with numbers and applied that to his gambling somehow and, as his brother said, there are many more out there and that is how casinos stay in business.

He also stated that he wishes that an autopsy would be performed to find a physical cause for this madness. Someone on DU posted about Charles Whitman who wrote in his suicide note before going on a mass murder spree at the University of Texas in 1966 that he wished for the same thing (an autopsy be performed to find the reason for his planned and somewhat uncontrollable actions). He had violent thoughts and severe pain in his head for months before he decided to kill random people. It turned out that he had a brain tumor.

With all of the attention on the NFL and brain injuries, this should be evaluated by the Las Vegas officials and doctors immediately.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
16. Empathy, folks.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 12:11 AM
Oct 2017

Everyone reacts to different things in different ways — and almost always not as intended. MOST people have weird mannerisms and affects when under incredible stress. And this dude was under a level of stress that most people can’t even comprehend.

Think of the person you love most, the person you’ve treasured more than anyone else for sixty years, the only (real, seemingly sane in a family of crazy) biological family member.

Picture that, and now all of a sudden the FBI knocks on the door. The only time you’ve ever seen the FBI is on the X-Files. Behind them are HUNDREDS of screaming reporters and lights and cameras and microphones; they’re screaming about your brother and your mom and your father who’s been dead for forty years.

And then “they” tell you: that person you were imagining just shot 600 innocent people. Wounded and killed more Americans than in any of our Middle East battles. Killed or wounded as many Americans as the Nazis did — roughly — when the 82nd Airborne landed behind Normandy Beach.

We’re supposed to then we think “Hmmm... This guy looks suspicious?” Most of us would be dead of a heart attack by that point. Rather than feel any empathy, though, we say he seems guilty. That poor SOB is suffering and suffering more than most of us. Not as much as the victims or their families. That’s obvious.

I still can’t begin to judge someone else’s reaction in a situation like this. I think that anyone empathetic and has been around tragedy would also recognize the conflict of emotions.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
17. If you have not had the experience of learning that your brother just committed murder,
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 03:12 AM
Oct 2017

it would be best to refrain from predicting how you would react.

I didn't go on TV, but I certainly found people to talk to about how out of character his actions were, as a way of processing something that it is impossible to process.

I didn't have reporters camped on my door - although the murders were horrific enough to garner national news, they were not this large and I lived out of state and it was before the era of the internet when it was not so easy to instantly track relatives down and stick a microphone and camera in their face. (My name is also more common, so it would have been harder to find me, even with the internet.) They certainly were persistent in trying to speak with my in-state parents.

But please, carry on with your empathy for someone who has just learned his brother is a mass murderer.

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