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WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 12:51 PM Oct 2017

Some Pacific Islanders Have DNA Not Linked To Any Known Human Ancestor

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/pacific-islanders-ancestor?utm_campaign=pdsoban&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

Most everyone knows that the islands of the South Pacific are some of the most remote and unique places on Earth, but a new study reveals just how unique they really are.

According to a report from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, researchers have found traces of a previously unknown extinct hominid species in the DNA of the Melanesians, a group living in an area northeast of Australia that encompasses Papua New Guinea and the surrounding islands.

A computer analysis suggests that the unidentified ancestral hominid species found in Melanesian DNA is unlikely to be either Neanderthal or Denisovan, the two known predecessors of humankind to this point.

Archaeologists have found many Neanderthal fossils in Europe and Asia, and although the only Denisovan DNA comes from a finger bone and a couple of teeth discovered in a Siberian cave, both species are well represented in the fossil record.

But now genetic modeling of the Melanesians has revealed a third, different human ancestor that may be an extinct, distinct cousin of the Neanderthals.
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Some Pacific Islanders Have DNA Not Linked To Any Known Human Ancestor (Original Post) WhiteTara Oct 2017 OP
I Love Stuff Like This Leith Oct 2017 #1
I would love to do genome sequencing WhiteTara Oct 2017 #4
Ditto. DK504 Oct 2017 #11
Tritto. democratisphere Oct 2017 #28
I participated in the National Geographic project. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #33
Do they now own your dna? WhiteTara Oct 2017 #44
Other than that whole cannibalism thing Yupster Oct 2017 #48
Prepertrators and victims WhiteTara Oct 2017 #49
Me too! Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #32
Thanks for the fascinating site link..... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #2
You're so welcome! WhiteTara Oct 2017 #3
EVOLUTION ROB-ROX Oct 2017 #5
It is great there are still creative and imaginative minds WhiteTara Oct 2017 #6
oh but don't you see, GetRidOfThem Oct 2017 #31
Don't you mean the Devil planted them to test the faithful? bitterross Oct 2017 #47
We should be glad they can't burn electronic documents. gtar100 Oct 2017 #42
Pretty obvious misinformation in that article. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #7
So true. It seems to be WhiteTara Oct 2017 #45
Ancient aliens n/t Kleveland Oct 2017 #8
Ancestors of not fooled Oct 2017 #13
Yes! It MUST be aliens. Binkie The Clown Oct 2017 #54
Fascinating! Mrs. Overall Oct 2017 #9
There's a great free course you can audit online... moriah Oct 2017 #10
Thanks. It's an edX course. SwissTony Oct 2017 #14
Shelia. mate. on the barbie Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #15
The word "sheila" is pretty much discouraged these days. SwissTony Oct 2017 #16
So does our president with regard to attitudes. We're not too proud of that either. justhanginon Oct 2017 #55
now that's interesting too. WhiteTara Oct 2017 #23
Thank you for this! stopwastingmymoney Oct 2017 #43
Atlantis? keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #12
Zealandia! csziggy Oct 2017 #19
If New Zealand is on top WhiteTara Oct 2017 #24
Read the article I linked to - it's cool! nt csziggy Oct 2017 #25
Lemuria Achilleaze Oct 2017 #20
The serpent in the garden of Eden planted fake DNA in Adam & Eves blood. KWR65 Oct 2017 #17
I'm not saying it's aliens ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2017 #18
Extremely cool! Brainstormy Oct 2017 #21
Do they get to name the hominid ancestor if they don't have bones? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #22
"Look at the bones!" longship Oct 2017 #27
Love those guys! SkyDaddy7 Oct 2017 #36
Chariots of the Gods. Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #26
There is still much to discover and learn about the origins of man throughout democratisphere Oct 2017 #29
The more we know DFW Oct 2017 #30
didnt southpark just do a story about this? ;) samnsara Oct 2017 #34
Wow...that's exciting. A possible new species? nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #35
I have family members like that left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #37
Very interesting -- thanks for posting left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #38
Didn't Erich von Daniken prove their ancestors came from outer space? dalton99a Oct 2017 #39
Actually, what he did was translate what the ancient Sumerian clay tablets had on them. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #41
I read "Innana: Queen of Heaven and Earth" WhiteTara Oct 2017 #46
Not sure which translation I read but may have been the same book. moriah Oct 2017 #50
Diane Wolkstein and Samuel Kramer WhiteTara Oct 2017 #51
Wolkstein sounds very familiar. moriah Oct 2017 #52
Sounds like something I want to read WhiteTara Oct 2017 #53
Annunaki! WinkyDink Oct 2017 #40
every time i read about something like this, i hear a familiar scifi tv show goes off in my head ,, AllaN01Bear Oct 2017 #56

Leith

(7,809 posts)
1. I Love Stuff Like This
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:11 PM
Oct 2017

It looks like I should watch the documentary on the Human Genome Project again, even though it doesn't have this new information.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
33. I participated in the National Geographic project.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 08:34 AM
Oct 2017

as did my husband. He has double the world average of Neanderthal DNA...thereby proving what I have suspected all along.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
44. Do they now own your dna?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:22 PM
Oct 2017

I would think all that Neanderthal dna would make him kind and caring and artistic. Their life seemed to be a very harmonious one.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
48. Other than that whole cannibalism thing
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:51 PM
Oct 2017

We did ours through National Geographic too. Seems to be mostly Celtic. Very early into Europe. My ancestors may have killed off those last Neanderthals.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
5. EVOLUTION
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:23 PM
Oct 2017

This planet is becoming more complex as science becomes better. There is no telling how the bible people will live with this news? I am just glad someone out there is still looking to connect the dots.........

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
6. It is great there are still creative and imaginative minds
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:27 PM
Oct 2017

at work still in this crazy world.

Welcome to DU

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
31. oh but don't you see,
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:56 AM
Oct 2017

That is so easy: God PLANTED those DNA sequences and them fossils for the researchers and archeologists, it's his gift to them .

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
47. Don't you mean the Devil planted them to test the faithful?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:26 PM
Oct 2017

That's where fossils that scientists say are over 6000 years-old come from. Don't ya know.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
42. We should be glad they can't burn electronic documents.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:47 AM
Oct 2017

Not that they won't try...it's their modus operandi with information that contradicts their world view. Can you imagine what this world might be like if they didn't destroy the Library of Alexandria or destroy all the books of the Mayans. Utter shame.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. Pretty obvious misinformation in that article.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

Modern humans have more ancestors than Neanderthals and Denisovians,

moriah

(8,311 posts)
10. There's a great free course you can audit online...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:58 PM
Oct 2017

Human Origins is the name of the class, taught by the leader of the team that discovered Lucy.

If you want the credit for the class with Arizona State you have to pay a proctoring fee then pay the credit hours if you pass, but it's open to anyone to audit if they just want to know more.

Many, many different hominids exited Africa before homo sapiens. Whether interbreeding was likely to have been attempted or been successful is unknown, but is definitely a possibility.

Especially if they retained the same number of chromosomes. Horses, donkeys, and zebras all evolved from a common ancestor 4.5 million years ago, but the reason mules are infertile is that during that time either donkeys lost or horses gained an extra pair of chromosomes. But they will still attempt to breed because mating signals aren't all that different.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
14. Thanks. It's an edX course.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 03:43 PM
Oct 2017
https://www.edx.org/course/human-origins-asux-asm246-4#!

I don't have time to do it now, so I was hoping to go through it later. But it starts on Jan 8, 2018. Plenty of time for me to make time for that course.

And it's in English!! Who knew Americans could speak English??

(Just kidding, my American friends - I'm Australian and, for sure, we don't speak English).

Thanks for the info, Moriah. That looks like a great course. I've already signed up.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
16. The word "sheila" is pretty much discouraged these days.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:33 PM
Oct 2017

It's viewed as pretty negative.

We Aussies have had (and still have) a few attitudes towards women and our indigenous people that we can't be proud of.

Just give us a fair suck of the saveloy. We're better than we used to be.

Cheers, mate. Good onya.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
55. So does our president with regard to attitudes. We're not too proud of that either.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:20 PM
Oct 2017

Unfortunately, we are not better than we used to be just 10 months ago.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
23. now that's interesting too.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:27 PM
Oct 2017

The course sounds fascinating. I'll look into auditing. I don't need credit, just greater understanding.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
19. Zealandia!
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 05:33 PM
Oct 2017

Voyage to sunken continent of Zealandia reveals thousands of fossil specimens

Scientists now believe 5,000,000 sq km mass served as a land bridge millions of years ago

Jon Sharman
Thursday 5 October 2017 12:15 BST

Scientists have uncovered more than 8,000 fossils during an expedition to a lost, underwater continent in the Pacific Ocean.

Drilling into the crust of Zealandia, thousands of feet below the surface, researchers discovered the remains of hundreds of species including pollen from land plants.

The land mass, on which New Zealand sits, was announced as the globe's newest continent earlier this year. It spans 5,000,000 sq km and is a distinct geological entity, a landmark study declared in the summer.

Read more

Life on Earth nearly four billion years old, new fossil suggests

Now it is believed Zealandia was once much closer to the ocean's surface and may have served as a land bridge for animals moving around the south Pacific region.

More: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/zealandia-voyage-fossil-specimens-found-scientists-sunken-continent-pacific-ocean-new-zealand-a7984106.html

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
17. The serpent in the garden of Eden planted fake DNA in Adam & Eves blood.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:38 PM
Oct 2017

It is a conspiracy of the devil I tell ya!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
22. Do they get to name the hominid ancestor if they don't have bones?
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:57 PM
Oct 2017

In fact, they only have circumstantial evidence that it must have existed. This is kind of like homo floresiensis, the 'hobbit people' in Indonesia.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
36. Love those guys!
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:05 AM
Oct 2017

I still go to YouTube & watch clips of them just to laugh...Their humor never gets old to me.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
29. There is still much to discover and learn about the origins of man throughout
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:53 AM
Oct 2017

the world. Thank you for this update on recent discoveries; article was fascinating.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
46. I read "Innana: Queen of Heaven and Earth"
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:26 PM
Oct 2017

which is a translation of early tablets that tells the life story of Innana. How she gains knowledge and goes to the Underworld and returns. I recommend it highly.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
50. Not sure which translation I read but may have been the same book.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:01 PM
Oct 2017

Had several different Sumerian myths, including how she met the husband that doesn't mourn her in the later Descent story.

Part of the required reading in my trad, even if I'm more drawn to the Mabinogion.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
51. Diane Wolkstein and Samuel Kramer
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:04 PM
Oct 2017

I think it may be the same book as that was part of the story I read.

Who is Mabinogion? I'll have to look her up.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
52. Wolkstein sounds very familiar.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:10 PM
Oct 2017

The Mabinogion is a collection of Celtic mythology, including the story of Rhiannon, etc.

I don't know who did the translation I had of it, but I had been lucky enough to find a hardback version.

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