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brooklynite

(94,541 posts)
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:55 AM Oct 2017

Are Democrats Headed for a McGovern Redux?

Politico:

Four decades ago, Richard Nixon lived out the fantasy many liberals harbor about Donald Trump, stepping down in the face of possible impeachment over a slow-moving scandal long before his term was up. Before that happened, however, Nixon was reelected by a resounding margin, in large part because progressives made strategic errors that Democrats today appear hellbent on repeating.

In 1968, as in 2016, Democrats narrowly lost the White House after nominating a relatively moderate, establishment candidate instead of a more liberal alternative who had inspired a raging enthusiasm among younger voters. Democrats spent much of the next four years arguing about what direction the party should take. White working-class voters—traditionally a Democratic bloc—were sluicing away, and progressives, convinced the party needed to change both its policy direction and its coalition of supporters, demanded a new approach: a “loose peace coalition” of minorities, young voters and educated white Democrats, as strategist Fred Dutton wrote in his 1971 book, Changing Sources of Power. One year later, the party’s presidential nominee, the ultra-liberal Senator George McGovern of South Dakota, went on to lose 49 states in one of the most lopsided victories in American history.

We’re a long, long way from 2020, but it’s abundantly evident that Trump will again run a Nixonian campaign, tearing down his opponent and presenting himself as the champion of an aggrieved coalition that Nixon called the “silent majority” and Trump calls “the forgotten men and women” of America.

Consumed by internecine battles and the idea of opposition, Democrats run the risk of again nominating someone like McGovern who pleases progressives but steers a course too far from the country’s center of political gravity to win, even as Trump continues his funhouse mirror impression of Nixon as the avatar of white cultural-grievance politics.


The critical difference may be whether the Demo nominee can express anger and emotion, as opposed to candidates like McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis.
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Are Democrats Headed for a McGovern Redux? (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2017 OP
Past greeny2323 Oct 2017 #1
Politico has become a disgustingly rabid pro-45 site lately. This article is more claptrap from them LonePirate Oct 2017 #2
No, Democrats are not. There is no reason to think they are. Squinch Oct 2017 #3
I Agree That We Need A Fighter ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2017 #4
The thesis completely omits the Tom Eagleton veep debacle. VOX Oct 2017 #5
McGovern was a disaster...wrong guy at the wrong time. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #6
 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
1. Past
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:58 AM
Oct 2017

The press is stuck in the past, like it is forever 1950 and liberals have to stop being liberal to win.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
4. I Agree That We Need A Fighter
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:50 AM
Oct 2017

That's why the people I'm most interested in at this point are Joe Biden (I think he's probably too old to be viable, but I love his fighting spirit) and Joe Kennedy. We need somebody who's not afraid to punch Trump in the mouth (to borrow a euphemism). The PERFECT candidate would be Sherrod Brown, but I've given up on that pipe dream (his wife has threatened to divorce him if he runs for President).

VOX

(22,976 posts)
5. The thesis completely omits the Tom Eagleton veep debacle.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:05 AM
Oct 2017

When news came out about Eagleton’s battle with depression and having undergone ECT (“shock”) treatments. This forced McGovern to drop Eagleton and “plug in” Sargent Shriver. But...damage done. In ‘72, this was a major blow.

Nixon went on to win California, New York, and every other state/district except MA and DC.

This situation won’t occur again, if Democrats STICK TOGETHER.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
6. McGovern was a disaster...wrong guy at the wrong time.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:45 AM
Oct 2017

The country has moved center left at best. If we put up a super liberal candidate, we will lose. I say this sadly, but the truth is the truth. We need to win and save the progressive movement...so we need to pick someone who can win. I do think Sherrod Brown could win...and he is very progressive. I think Joe Kennedy could win.

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