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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNorthern CA is on fire
All over. Sonoma, Napa, Calistoga. Nevada County. Mass evacuations.
awesomerwb1
(4,269 posts)Makes me very sad. Hope no human or animal casualties.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)There is smoke everywhere and the roads are clogged with people being evacuated. I'm safe for the moment.
Fun times. It's a madhouse here.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Fire resouces:
Evacuation Area Map:
http://nevcounty.maps.arcgis.com/apps/PublicInformation/index.html?appid=98b2c0f363104d25b858048c46fb56e2
www.knco.com - Radio 830 AM - https://www.facebook.com/KNCO-Newstalk-830-421405735192/
Nevada County Sheriff's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Nevada-County-Sheriffs-Office-176
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Nevada County Office of Emergency Services - https://www.facebook.com/NevadaCountyOES/
KVMR's Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/KVMRFM/
The Union - https://www.facebook.com/theuniongrassvalley/
CALTRANS - http://quickmap.dot.ca.gov
CALFire Current Incidents - http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Source: Santa Rosa Press Democrat
SONOMA California Gov. Jerry Brown has declared a state of emergency in Napa, Sonoma and Yuba counties because of wildfires that the governor says are threatening thousands of homes.
Brown issued the declaration on Monday, as multiple fires forced people to evacuate their homes.
Napa County Fire Chief Barry Biermann said more than 50 structures had been destroyed, but there were no reports of injuries or deaths.
Residents describe terrifying middle-of-the-night scrambles to flee from raging wildfires.
Read more: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/7508091-181/gov-brown-declares-state-of?gallery=7507357&artslide=0
suffragette
(12,232 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)There are two I haven't heard from.
Thoughts and prayers don't hack it, but sTrumpet and his Barbie doll are elsewhere.
Meanwhile, in Alaska, we've been loading cases of water for Puerto Rico. Wish we could ship some there, too, in the form of rain.
Be careful for all of us.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Any idiot doesn't think California matters should move to Uranus!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)a rogue planet. There is massive Cali hatred on the right.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)My friends in Cali are, I think, okay.
BigmanPigman
(51,648 posts)Our two worst fires (Cedar 2003 and Witch 2007) were in Oct/Nov. School was closed for a week each time.
They just announced that there is one in Anaheim near LA.
It is hot, dry and windy in San Diego County now.
Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)Northern California's "North Wind" is the same offshore effect as you Santana wind and it's been blowing stink all weekend. 40-70 mph, baby!
They north winds were projected to end today, but I am now seeing it's going to last through Wednesday, albeit significantly abated. Damn.
WhiteTara
(29,730 posts)Our old home area in Redwood Valley (home of some wonderful organic vineyards) is being evacuated.
Luther Burbank Center has burned to the ground in Santa Rosa, I've been told. It seems to have jumped 101 and is moving the other side too.
cally
(21,599 posts)That's right in the middle of town?
WhiteTara
(29,730 posts)the entire city is on fire.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)By that I mean Old Downtown & surrounding areas. Fire is currently at about halfway between Fountain Grove / Kaiser and Coddingtown Mall, going north to south. Getting texts & tweets from friends in the area. Fountain grove & Hidden Valley are devastated, as is the other side of the 101.
ailsagirl
(22,901 posts)Smelled the smoke at 2:00 am
I work in Sonoma County though we had today off so I don't know what shape Petaluma is in
Frightening
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)In Marin now, too - the smoke has cleared, makes me fear what direction the winds are up North?
ailsagirl
(22,901 posts)Thanks for the info re Petaluma-- was told by someone who works there that the air is terribly choked up with smoke and that her car is covered in ashes
Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)The Sears Point fire has been fully contained.
ailsagirl
(22,901 posts)GregD
(2,263 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)malaise
(269,251 posts)Stay safe DUers
Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)But watch em try to say a cannabis grower is responsible. Watch.
maxsolomon
(33,449 posts)If they are, they are.
There was more than 1 fire, wasn't there?
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)I can't reach her. Anybody hear anything about that area?
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)It has already been evacuated. She's probably okay. I don't know about her home though.
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)This is gawd awful. We had over a million acres on fire in Montana this summer. Worst summer ever. We have far fewer people and structures however. This will be devastating for California.
Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)Her telephone was down before she bugged out.
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)My friend - actually my late mother's best friend - is in her 80's and lives a lone. The phone goes straight to voicemail. I'm worried...
Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)My friend lived up a narrow wooden canyon.
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)I think I just found her son in Seattle. I'm going to call him.
malaise
(269,251 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)I just hope some moron didn't start
one or more on purpose.
Did I hear at least 1 or two dead already???
Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)And that's just Santa Rosa reporting
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Santa Rosa's Hilton Sonoma hotel and Kmart store were among 1,500 structures burned in North Bay fires
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Santa-Rosa-businesses-homes-burn-as-firefighters-12263764.php
Brother Buzz
(36,489 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)marlakay
(11,527 posts)Her rental house burnt to the ground. No renters insurance either. She is devastated.
I feel so bad for her, I was already going to visit her this weekend and now will take her shopping, all her work clothes gone, its so beyond.
I had my younger daughter set up gofundme for her.
Her house was in Santa Rosa near the fountain grove area, two hotels there burnt also and many homes.
CountAllVotes
(20,879 posts)I hope things get better for both of you very fast!
yuiyoshida
(41,869 posts)There were no local fires and my neighbor was not using his grill last night or this morning.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)just saying..
Baclava
(12,047 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Winds shift today. A whole new round of evacuations over night. I know people in Napa, and two friends lost everything in Nevada County fires yesterday. That area is better, but Napa, Sonoma and environs still rages out of control.
I was in SF, at the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival, over the weekend. I went to see Lukas Nelson late night Sunday, and walked out of the venue and was "wow, huge fire". We stayed the night and Monday morning it was choking in the city. I can't imagine leaving the beautiful of the festival to an inferno, as I am sure my friends and a lot of festival attendees did. We drove down 80, saw the smoke and we could see how huge this was. I could smell that it wasn't just grass or forest, but plastic, building materials burning.
I live in the foothills, by Coloma, and the smoke is heavy. The weather people don't have us rated unhealthy, but the rest of the valley is bright red. There's Going to be a lot of respritory ailments there, which is the world's leader in that type of thing.
Things may just get a lot worse this afternoon when the wind shifts.
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)From the sheriffs press conference just now. 3500 homes and businesses gone.
CountAllVotes
(20,879 posts)In the far north of Calif. -- no fires luckily!
Stay safe neighbors in the south!
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)The largest of the fires, the Redwood Valley fire, is probably in the redwoods in Sonoma county. It is raining in the far north today. So they might escape, but the outdoor season is still in the ground and rain is never good. And, with Sonoma and Napa crops being ruined, the Humboldt, Mendocino crop is more valuable.
CountAllVotes
(20,879 posts)There is one fire up this way inland towards Orleans.
The giant redwoods in Humboldt county are in preserves and the only thing that will take them down is a saw.
cilla4progress
(24,791 posts)even losing my home in 1994. Happening with more frequency now.
I feel you, and know how terrifying and life-changing this is. I have come back from my loss, and I know you there will, too, though it takes time...
CountAllVotes
(20,879 posts)Have not heard a word from either of them and one of them is/was living in Santa Rosa not far from 101 south. She's old & demented and likely doesn't know wtf is going on is my guess. Lives w/one of her kids I ....
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)No link but that's what's happening
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Seven points on the inferno in Northern California right now:
1. This is the worst we've seen. As I write, the confirmed death count is 24. Hundreds more are reported missing. And the official death toll will only count people who died in the blaze -- not the sick, elderly, and otherwise compromised pushed over the edge by the toxic, sooty air we've been breathing for days.
2. These are not wildfires per se. They are burning through vineyards, private lands, and suburban subdivisions. And the likely ignition source is not natural (see next point).
3. The most plausible explanation of how so many fires started at once comes from a Mercury News investigation by Paul Rogers: Sonoma County dispatchers sent fire crews to at least 10 different locations on Sunday night responding to calls of sparking wires and other electrical problems [shortly after the report came out, Pacific Gas and Electric no-showed on an interview they'd scheduled with us at KPFA].
4. The initial electrical damage happened during a night-time windstorm with gusts up to 79 miles per hour. Those are hurricane-force winds . . . hot, dry, hurricane-force winds driving fire instead of rain -- and driving it toward heavily-populated areas.
5. Such wind patterns aren't unheard of here. What has become more common in recent years, however, are warm nights that leave brush warm and dry, instead of cool and dew-moistened. Check Leah Rachel Swan 's reporting at SFgate for more.
6. Also connected to climate weirding: California had record-breaking rains this winter, followed by record-breaking heat this summer. The rains helped grow more brush--"fuel" in the parlance of fire officials. The heat dried it into tinder. (And the preceding five years of extreme drought also left California's forests full of dead and drying trees.)
7. All but lost in the disaster coverage (and the NFL taunting, and the nuclear drama): this is also the week that Scott Pruitt, President Trump's pick to head the EPA, announced a rollback of the most significant Obama-era rules intended to curb climate change, the Clean Power Plan. It wasn't adequate, but it was something -- and now it's gone. Brian Edwards-Tiekert