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(590 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,649 posts)Clever artist!
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)That's it in a "nutshell" isn't it?
Lokilooney
(322 posts)It definitely took some balls to draw, I hope Pence comes to the conclusion that this is what happens when he's receptive to hardliners.
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)aren't you?
"Receptive to hardliners"....Well played Lokilooney. Well played!
Martin Eden
(12,882 posts)Pence was honoring his good friends Neal and Bob.
where is putin?
Motley13
(3,867 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)So no comment given. Don't mess with the perfect message.
Irish_Dem
(47,731 posts)Vinca
(50,323 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)A real friend and vice president checks the president daily for crabs... so they can add them to the number of supporters.
snort
(2,334 posts)If mother aint around...
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)Would have the same effectiveness if one or the other person was female.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,240 posts)Pretty much the same as ass kissing or brown nosing.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)I wouldn't have asked the OP to stop using homosexuality as an insult.
That's simple enough, if that is truly the motive. But it's pretty clear that it is not from the number of insults thrown about that involve homosexual activity.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)Likewise the 'toon is about a person servicing a person in a frontal erogenous zone. Two persons who are male due to the preponderance of males in positions of power.
You get all upset because it is frontal, but not upset when it is rear. Inconsistent.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)but it is generally not.
I don't care whether it is frontal or not. I care that it is using Trump or Pence engaging in sexual activity with another man as an insult.
Ass-kissing and brown-nosing (as the phrases are commonly used) is not. If those activities were being depicted as engaging in sexual activity, of course I would have the same objection.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)You can barely turn around without running into an insult to trump that involves him having sex with another man (Putin, for example, as well as many others). I have not seen a singlecartoon about Trump being serviced by Huckabee Sanders or Conway - let alone one that has gone viral.
So no, it's not about servicing him or we would see those insults with his prominent female employees.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)If it were VP Mary Pence servicing Don the Con or Mike Pence servicing pres Ivanka Trump, the 'toon would be just as effective. Similarly if tRump were servicing a Ludmilla Putin.
But it does not show a woman because none of them are women. Fact. That is because the US and Russia have never had female Presidents or Vice Presidents. Fact.
Kaleva
(36,389 posts)We see cartoons involving Trump with Putin or Pence because it's okay to take a stab at bisexuality. This isn't about homosexuality because the three aren't gay so the cartoon in the OP is depicting bisexual behavior.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)It is using homosexuality to insult Trump, largely becuase the cartoonist knows how offensive it would be to trump.
Kaleva
(36,389 posts)giving Trump a blow job, I dare say that post would be alerted on and hidden very quickly.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)That's pretty much my point. Both sexism and homophobia are prohibited by the TOS. But homosexuals (and transgender individuals) are still considered fair game - ahd the use of homophobia to shame politicians we don't like - is still routinely accepted by far too many who claim to be liberal or progressive.
hueymahl
(2,510 posts)An alternative view is Pence is Trump's subservient little weasel. He would do anything for him.
I appreciate the gay aspect of it as potentially an insult, but that was not my first reaction.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)as an insult.
Just like you can't use a baseball bat to bash someone's head in without there being an impact on the bat, you can't use me to bash Trump (or anyone else) without there beingan impact on me.
I suspect the idiots at Dove didn't have all of the whitewashing advertisements of prior years as their first reaction when they screened their new commercial, but you can bet every person of color did.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)It's getting old.
Thank you for speaking up.
Saviolo
(3,284 posts)Really tired of this.
Reminds me of every bully I knew in high school who thought they were my friend, and would put their arm around my shoulder and say, "I don't mean that there's anything wrong with you or anything, but THAT GUY OVER THERE IS A FAG! LOLOLOL!"
KentuckyWoman
(6,697 posts)agreed
Wounded Bear
(58,769 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)Demobrat
(9,030 posts)Some of us are at work!
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Skittles
(153,262 posts)JDC
(10,144 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,240 posts)Mike "Trumpholster" Pence
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)Of course not.
It is no more ok to insult them by implying they are gay. There are literally millions of insults that have nothing to do with being gay or having sex with another man. Please pick one of those millions. I am so tired of being used as a target by the right and a battering ram by progressives who should know better. Either way, I'm getting beaten up, since being hit and being used to hit someone else both feel pretty much the same.
Enoki33
(1,589 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)kimbutgar
(21,248 posts)I will be having a good chuckle remembering this pic when I see Pence from now on.