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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK, I've gotta say, regarding Weinstein....
When this story broke, my first question was, "Who??" I mean, I know he's well known, but it took me a minute to realize who he is. He's not exactly a household name, is he? Or am I hopelessly out of touch? It seems that most media coverage of this is playing it up as more both-sides-do-it, as if the right has Trump and the left has Weinstein. They are hardly the same thing! What he did is atrocious and he is being rightfully turned into a pariah, but I don't think the vast majority of Americans even knew who he was prior to this. It's kinda like the fact that no one had ever heard of Benghazi until it became a right-wing mantra. Am I off the mark here?
Phoenix61
(17,004 posts)delisen
(6,043 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)I had heard of Miramax, but never really knew who Harvey Weinstein was until Ellen ordered the Pizza at the Oscars and made Harvey pay. He looked very grumpy, not at all gracious, and that was the first that I ever heard of Harvey Weinstein. Knowing now who he is and what he is, I find it hilarious that Ellen bossed him around at the Oscars for the whole world to see.
moose65
(3,166 posts)And I kinda remember that pizza thing but didn't remember that it was him!
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)And yes, this absolutely is just another stick to beat the Clintons with.
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)It could have been any wealthy pervy fuck as long as plenty of photos taken with Hillary and President Obama.
Every story on this on fox as they ramble pics of hm with both rotate at nauseam.
moose65
(3,166 posts)At least I think I saw one....
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)But have not seen any with cheese whiz.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)supported Democrats.
Christ, Republican child molesters don't even get this kind of coverage!
djg21
(1,803 posts)Get elected President.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)television industry. I find it interesting that drumpf has somehow been given a pass while Weinstein is being annihilated; both should be getting the same scrutiny and both should be losing their careers.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Rose McGowen, Gwenneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, Ashley Judd and on and on...That's going to garner a lot of press.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)He's given just over $800,000 of his own money plus $1.5 million raised from others. I had no idea who he was before the scandal. I only knew of the Weinstein company because of Michael Moore's documentaries. He is completely dwarfed by the kochs.
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)There are 60 million + people who voted for Trump and know he is horrible. This will result in very, very creative twisting of logic to place any fault on Hillary Clinton to relieve some of the guilt in voting for Trump. (See, if I had voted for Hillary as you wanted me to do, Harvey Weinstein ...)(what? would have been Secretary of State?)
Kota
(901 posts)Hopefully because we have a slime ball in the Whitehouse. Joy Reid did a great segment over the weekend where it gave her a chance to list all of Dotard's accusers. That the way it should be handled.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)People saying they don't know who Harvey Weinstein is, like it's something to be proud of.
Pro-tip: you've all given him money.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Pro-tip: you've all given him money." No one is arguing otherwise.
Pro Tip Part II... separate the art from the artist, or no piece of art will ever be pure enough for righteous eyes.
mythology
(9,527 posts)I took it to mean people generally don't know who the producer on a film is. Stars and directors sure. Even score composer.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Weinstein isn't an artist. He's a producer. I can watch movies he produced without his name ruining it for me.
That's not the point.
The point is everyone has been shoveling money into his pockets for decades. The man has had enormous influence over cinema the world over. He's not a nobody. You should know who this guy is, and if you don't you should at least do yourself the courtesy of pretending you do.
moose65
(3,166 posts)Do we all know the names of every movie, tv, and music producer? I doubt it.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)The news follows famous people. The fact that it was a chronic problem is newsworthy because it is another example of misogyny that has gone unchallenged.
moose65
(3,166 posts)And we have a winner! It's all part of the news-as-entertainment universe that we now live in.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I had never heard of her before Project Runway but I had no idea she was married to this guy!
I do not think you are hopelessly out of touch.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)when Georgina married Harvey, which led to her getting the Project Runway gig. It also became a ritual that a star in a TWC or Miramax film would showed up in a Marchesa gown.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)makes sense now but I knew very little about either of them.
Thanks for the info.
moose65
(3,166 posts)And you're right- I wouldn't have known who she was (or who Nina Garcia is) if it wasn't for Project Runway!
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Harvey just didn't have his name out there front and center, but he could have.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I didn't know who he was and I'm utterly clueless about how he and his scandalous behavior is being "Trumped up" by the RW and some of the media (esp. CNN) to attack prominent Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for not denouncing him quick enough (as though that is naturally expected of them as current private citizens), as well as to provide some bizarre false equivalency between the GOP's support and enabling of well-known sexual predator and CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and the Democrats' past receipt of campaign contributions from Weinstein, a now disgraced member of the Hollywood establishment whom the Democrats never ran or supported for President (and probably didn't know particularly well enough to know that he's a scumbag and sexual predator). This whole situation is simply mind-blowing. And it's not even the most pressing problem for our country!
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)He was, however, one of the, if not the, biggest power players in Hollywood. I knew about him because I follow the awards season and movies from pre-production to screen. If he wanted to be a household name, he could be. The media isn't overplaying his reach and importance. They are over doing it w/ the "both sides do it", but Harvey Weinstein had the power to make or break careers and shape the entertainment landscape.
We've move past the days where studio heads are household names, but their power hasn't really diminished.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)"Harvey Fierstein(sp)? Are they sure?"
Philistein
(25 posts)Which means he gets the full treatment. He was part of the party's inner circle, a mover and shaker, gave lots of money, etc. No idea how much actual influence he had, but he seems to think quite a bit.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Better known than Trump in those circles
Leith
(7,809 posts)His name sounded vaguely familiar, but we wouldn't have guessed him in a game of 20 (or even 200) questions. Most of what I learned about what a producer does from the movie Wag the Dog (really! I still don't know why he insisted on a white cat except it would show up better on the drab background).
The big difference between Democratic and rethug sex scandals: the Democrats are shunned and their careers are over while the rethugs get reelected.
nocalflea
(1,387 posts)He and his brother started out small , championing independent films. Really remarkable. Miramax was named after their parents-combo of their first names.
I feel bad for the brother Bob. Harvey on the other hand has always given me the creeps, can't explain it ( Cosby had a similiar effect on me) . A weird vibe. So not suprised to hear this, just sad for his victims.
The more peopls who hear about this the better. Making this a political left/ right thing leaves me cold. Any news org/media venture that does should be ashamed. Real lives have been affected.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Since Trump is not really a Hollywood person.....
"Harvey Weinstein is just the tip of the douche-berg. Listen up, creeps of Hollywood, we know who you are."
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)It appears that he has lost his box office mojo. The most disgusting art movie that I have ever seen.