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CNN's Zeleny: Gen. Kelly & wife at Gold Star breakfast at WH in 2011, Mrs. Obama's table (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2017 OP
Compare and contrast, class gratuitous Oct 2017 #1
Trump lied......WE GOT HIM!!!! Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #2
We keep getting him, maybe on of these days.............. HAB911 Oct 2017 #3
Looks like Kelly lied too. Oh wait, Kelly said O didn't call him. Guess he forgot being invited to.. brush Oct 2017 #4
CNN says he hasn't said anything... Baconator Oct 2017 #5
Hell avoid comment. Because he doesnt want to lie on the record Thrill Oct 2017 #9
DID HE? (Kelly) I haven't seen any confirmation that Kelly ACTUALLY told Trump that. hlthe2b Oct 2017 #6
Trump trotted him out to bank on his reputation... Baconator Oct 2017 #10
trumps newest deflection from his latest lies about families of fallen soldiers notdarkyet Oct 2017 #14
Kelly doesn't want to talk about this, and I'm sure he's angry with his "boss" for politicizing.... George II Oct 2017 #15
That could be the case, but when are they going to stop with the being angry and say enough is... brush Oct 2017 #20
pointless shitstorms is all Trump can offer America Johonny Oct 2017 #7
republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief doubling down on his lies Achilleaze Oct 2017 #8
but but but my generals told me ...... Botany Oct 2017 #11
General Kelly has likely gone through hell MontanaMama Oct 2017 #12
The American obsession with "honoring" troops, dead or alive, is just another massive Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #13
Are you familiar with the concept of the "economic draft"? Marengo Oct 2017 #18
If trump decided to shit on the floor in the middle of the Oval Office... George II Oct 2017 #16
AP reporting that WH visitor records back this up: highplainsdem Oct 2017 #17
So many officers suffered the same fate, that of a child lost in combat... stollen Oct 2017 #19

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Compare and contrast, class
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:44 PM
Oct 2017

How did the Obamas treat a gold star family that may have disagreed with them politically to how Trump treated a gold star family that disagreed with him politically.

Any other questions, Mr. Trump?

brush

(53,776 posts)
4. Looks like Kelly lied too. Oh wait, Kelly said O didn't call him. Guess he forgot being invited to..
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:05 PM
Oct 2017

a Gold Star dinner where he sat at the table with Michelle O.

My opinion of Kelly just cratered. Does everyone in that admin lie (alternate facts) so blatantly?

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
5. CNN says he hasn't said anything...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:08 PM
Oct 2017

"CNN asked the White House to talk to Kelly about this issue, but they declined to make him available. Kelly also has not responded to a direct request from comment from CNN."

hlthe2b

(102,240 posts)
6. DID HE? (Kelly) I haven't seen any confirmation that Kelly ACTUALLY told Trump that.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017

Trump has repeatedly made up lies and attributed to others so....? I am not defending Kelly by any means but I DO want to know the truth.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
10. Trump trotted him out to bank on his reputation...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:21 PM
Oct 2017

The primary reason he has kept the generals around.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
14. trumps newest deflection from his latest lies about families of fallen soldiers
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:16 PM
Oct 2017

Was to throw Kelly to the wolves. Losing his son wasn't grief enough, now trump wants him to prove his loyalty to the liar in chief. Kelly's in a hard position.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Kelly doesn't want to talk about this, and I'm sure he's angry with his "boss" for politicizing....
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:27 PM
Oct 2017

....the deaths of American military including his son.

brush

(53,776 posts)
20. That could be the case, but when are they going to stop with the being angry and say enough is...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 05:54 PM
Oct 2017

is enough and resign in disgust?

Botany

(70,501 posts)
11. but but but my generals told me ......
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:48 PM
Oct 2017

Trump and his followers are unburdened by his lies. Remember his, "I finished top
of my class @ Wharton?"


Trump's Business School Professor Says He Was Dumbest Student He Ever Had


http://www.vladtv.com/article/234814/trumps-business-school-professor-says-he-was-dumbest-student-he-ever-had

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
12. General Kelly has likely gone through hell
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:54 PM
Oct 2017

losing his son. However, the hell he is in now is of his own making...he has sold his soul and in turn has sold out his country.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. The American obsession with "honoring" troops, dead or alive, is just another massive
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:58 PM
Oct 2017

propaganda operation brought to you by the military/industrial complex.

Soldiers die. They all know the risks when they sign up. And when you have tens of thousands of them all over the world purposely placed in dangerous situations and your are spending 600 billion a year on them on a world push for dominance....some will die.

Soldiers and their families should not be feted because they are dead. Families and soldiers do not start the war. If we honor them then why not honor those that started the wars and conflicts that they died in in the first place?

I think they should have our sympathy at all times, but being in a voluntary profession where it is kill or be killed and you are the one getting killed....that is what soldiers do is it not?

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. If trump decided to shit on the floor in the middle of the Oval Office...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:28 PM
Oct 2017

...he'd probably justify it by saying "Obama never used the bathroom, either"!

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
17. AP reporting that WH visitor records back this up:
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:40 PM
Oct 2017

via WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-latest-obama-hosted-kelly-at-breakfast-after-son-died/2017/10/17/02c36956-b360-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html

White House visitor records from former President Barack Obama’s term show that he hosted current White House chief of staff John Kelly at a breakfast for Gold Star families after his son died in Afghanistan.

stollen

(419 posts)
19. So many officers suffered the same fate, that of a child lost in combat...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:57 PM
Oct 2017

Kelly wouldn't have wanted special attention drawn to him. On the other hand, why drag this out now? I assume he said something to Trump.


Many Officers' Sons Serve in Armed Services

That the Kelly brothers would follow their father into military service is not uncommon in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, where the sons of many general officers are serving in combat.

Defense Secretary Gates recently noted this reality in a speech at Duke University, where he said he was struck "by the large number of our senior officers whose children are in uniform, including the recent commander of all U.S. forces in Iraq whose son was seriously wounded in the war."

Gates was referring to Gen. Ray Odierno, whose son, Tony, lost an arm during a combat tour in Iraq as an Army lieutenant.

http://abcnews.go.com/News/star-marine-generals-son-killed-afghanistan/story?id=12122030


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