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Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:31 PM Oct 2017

Cop has complete meltdown, starts shooting for no reason what so ever

Gets really bad at 5:25 when he starts hyperventilating...



Even more fucked up, from the description of the incident, it sounds like they wanted
to charge the woman in the video with causing the "panic attack".

A Sevier County Sheriff’s Office deputy opened fire without warning in a mobile home park, suffered an apparent panic attack four minutes later and was forcibly disarmed by a paramedic, body camera footage shows. Deputy Justin Johnson did not mention the panic attack in his report on the December 2016 incident, and he remains on active duty, court records show. Brian Keith Mullinax, 41, and his girlfriend, Tina Carrie Jo Cody, 37, spent 42 days in jail on felony charges, accused of causing what was described in court statements as a "panic attack" and which a detective called "some type of cardiac event." They remain under prosecution on misdemeanor charges, court records show. A spokesman for Sevier County Sheriff Ron “Hoss” Seals did not return a phone message. It’s not clear from court records whether the sheriff’s office conducted an internal investigation, ordered psychological testing for Johnson, or required him to undergo counseling or additional training. Cody was unarmed and being held on the ground by Johnson and paramedic Blake Gregg when Johnson fired four shots toward a set of mobile homes, paused and fired three more, the video obtained showed. He ran away from Cody and Gregg toward Sharp Road. “Shots fired,” he told dispatchers. “We need help.” Four minutes later, Johnson was kneeling over Cody, who had remained on the ground, with his gun still in his hand when the video showed he began hyperventilating and running backward away from the mobile homes and Cody. Paramedic Michael O’Connor ran toward Johnson. “Pull it together,” O’Connor told Johnson. “Look at me.” Johnson continued to hyperventilate while pointing his gun toward Cody, Gregg and the mobile homes.


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Cop has complete meltdown, starts shooting for no reason what so ever (Original Post) Henry Krinkle Oct 2017 OP
He needs to get help. rockfordfile Oct 2017 #1
Cowardice cops nt Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #2
I wouldn't exactley call it cowadice. Henry Krinkle Oct 2017 #11
He surely seemed to have a break with reality. Mariana Oct 2017 #28
Exactly. brush Oct 2017 #31
Dude needs to find a new line of work....he ain't suited for this. Thomas Hurt Oct 2017 #3
Another panicky, out-of-control cop. And the EMS guy who initially calmed him down and took his... brush Oct 2017 #4
That EMT looks more like a hero to me. Doing his job, of course. Hortensis Oct 2017 #8
Nah! Did you not see that he gave the gun BACK to the hyperventilating maniac? brush Oct 2017 #9
No. I wasn't there, and I certainly wouldn't assume I knew everything required Hortensis Oct 2017 #14
Yet you assume to know everything required to form the antipodean opinion LanternWaste Oct 2017 #20
Oh, hi, LanternWaste! What did I inadvertently do to attract YOUR attention? Hortensis Oct 2017 #22
Apparently antipodean does not mean what he thinks it does. cwydro Oct 2017 #38
:) Hortensis Oct 2017 #41
Seriously? It's right on the video that he gave the gun back to the out-of-control cop. brush Oct 2017 #29
Still don't know the whole story, though, Brush. Hortensis Oct 2017 #32
This is why training needs to be tough, rigorous and stress inducing Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #5
Yes, and starting pay should be high enough to provide a pool of good-quality applicants Hortensis Oct 2017 #17
You get what you pay for Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #18
+100. A waiter in any decent restaurant could make more, Hortensis Oct 2017 #19
Mother of God burnbaby Oct 2017 #6
Wow this loon is walking the streets fully armed workinclasszero Oct 2017 #7
Somebody needs a desk job sarisataka Oct 2017 #10
Somebody needs a straightjacket lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #12
what are the paramedics doing kneeling on the woman?? Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #13
What a fucking mess. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #15
"The couple spent 42 days in jail because they were too poor to post bond and did not get a WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #16
Am I following this right? hamsterjill Oct 2017 #21
I was wondering the same thing. Grammy23 Oct 2017 #27
An article I read said the guy who scared him (the man they arrested) had a cellphone tblue37 Oct 2017 #33
I doubt a sheriff with a nickname Hoss maxrandb Oct 2017 #23
"Deputy Justin Johnson did not mention the panic attack in his report" Solly Mack Oct 2017 #24
A friend of his said in a comment on YouTube that he is still on the force but tblue37 Oct 2017 #34
He shouldn't be doing any sort of police/security work. Solly Mack Oct 2017 #36
I agree on all points. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #37
How did this cop NOT kill somebody? The paramedic gave the gun back to this SICK MAN...... Old Vet Oct 2017 #25
Glad no one got hurt, and he can get some help. I suspect he'll be looking for another line of work. Hoyt Oct 2017 #26
What the HELL .... LenaBaby61 Oct 2017 #30
Of course greytdemocrat Oct 2017 #35
Walk over ryan_cats Oct 2017 #39
Crazy world. nt oasis Oct 2017 #40
 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
11. I wouldn't exactley call it cowadice.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:14 PM
Oct 2017

I'm thinking more like some mental disorder he couldn't control.

A combat vet with undiagnosed PTSD perhaps?

To me, it almost looked like he was hallucinating, having some sort of flashback and started
shooting at persons and/or thing that aren't even there.

Either way, he's way too dangerous to be allowed to carry a firearm.

Mariana

(14,864 posts)
28. He surely seemed to have a break with reality.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 05:53 PM
Oct 2017

Did none of the police or EMT's at the scene report this bizarre and dangerous behavior? Even if they don't care about the people who lived in the trailers (which is likely), he could easily have shot one of the EMT's or another officer. They do care about that.

brush

(54,139 posts)
4. Another panicky, out-of-control cop. And the EMS guy who initially calmed him down and took his...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:54 PM
Oct 2017

gun, gave it back to him, thereby putting them all in danger from a hyperventilating maniac with a gun

WTF?

Who hires these people? Do they have no standards as to who they give a gun to?

That is a scary situation on that video.

And the maniac remains on active duty.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. That EMT looks more like a hero to me. Doing his job, of course.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:07 PM
Oct 2017

The successful conclusion, with no one shot, supports his judgement that wrestling for control of this semi-deranged officer's gun would not be the best course of action.

brush

(54,139 posts)
9. Nah! Did you not see that he gave the gun BACK to the hyperventilating maniac?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:09 PM
Oct 2017

All of them at the scene were then in danger again.

Maybe you should watch the video again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. No. I wasn't there, and I certainly wouldn't assume I knew everything required
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:23 PM
Oct 2017

to form this kind of harsh opinion from a video. Good sense mandates a certain amount of humility and restraint.

Frankly, I was surprised that anyone would choose to go after the EMT. I thought the cop would satisfy.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Yet you assume to know everything required to form the antipodean opinion
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:39 PM
Oct 2017

"I certainly wouldn't assume I knew everything required to form this kind of harsh opinion from a video..."

Yet you assume to know everything required to form the antipodean opinion that he is in fact, a hero. Odd the obviousd and clear discrepancies our biases often cloud from us.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Oh, hi, LanternWaste! What did I inadvertently do to attract YOUR attention?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 04:16 PM
Oct 2017

Go bother someone else. I'm not playing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. :)
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:45 AM
Oct 2017

Well at least meaning is no doubt intended. Some names just bring to mind animated fighting stick figures. View one once and that's more than enough, not about to leap into the frame myself.


brush

(54,139 posts)
29. Seriously? It's right on the video that he gave the gun back to the out-of-control cop.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:00 PM
Oct 2017

He had the good sense to calm the never-should-have-been-a-cop cop, but come on, to give the gun back to him and put everyone in danger AGAIN?

No.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Still don't know the whole story, though, Brush.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:34 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Tue Oct 17, 2017, 07:04 PM - Edit history (1)

You might end up being more right in your condemnation of the actions of the man on the scene, but even then I could not set aside my respect for the bravery and good intentions, and competence as far as it went, of that man who inserted himself coolly and deliberately into a very dangerous scene.

One thing I'm wondering about are the right and duty of an EMT to disarm a police officer during an event. Why didn't the other officers do that? Another is that this EMT may have felt he did have the ability to differentiate between a panic attack and a psychotic break, or whatever other alternative there might have been. If I knew more, I expect there might be more. Or less. Perhaps this precise situation is in the EMT procedures manual.

Peace.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
5. This is why training needs to be tough, rigorous and stress inducing
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:59 PM
Oct 2017

Not just your initial training, but your annual in-service required training needs to be intense and stress inducing training. Just like the military does in Basic Training you have to do that to weed out the people who can't handle he stress of the job before they get on the job and fail when it matters.


This is a failure of standard and training, period. This person never should hve passed their academy or initial training. Had they made it past that it should have been spotted during their FTO period.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Yes, and starting pay should be high enough to provide a pool of good-quality applicants
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:26 PM
Oct 2017

to apply the standards and training to. It's down around mid $30Ks, not much more than beginning skilled clerical.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
18. You get what you pay for
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:31 PM
Oct 2017

At low pay you will get some high quality people because they are drawn to a job like that in public service, and they know they can pay low and get them because it's not the pay that motivates them. But when you can't get enough of them what is left is not who you want on the job.

That county is loaded with tourism jobs way easier than being a deputy that pay equal or better- so this is what happens.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. +100. A waiter in any decent restaurant could make more,
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

and the ones we'd like to have in uniform substantially more.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Somebody needs a straightjacket
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:14 PM
Oct 2017

He should not be anywhere but in the mental hospital until his illness can be controlled.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,605 posts)
16. "The couple spent 42 days in jail because they were too poor to post bond and did not get a
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:26 PM
Oct 2017

preliminary hearing within 10 business days as the law requires, records showed. It’s not clear why from those court records."

Murca!

hamsterjill

(15,229 posts)
21. Am I following this right?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:40 PM
Oct 2017

The paramedic got the gun AWAY from the cop having the panic attack and yet then gives it BACK to him?

Good grief!!

Grammy23

(5,816 posts)
27. I was wondering the same thing.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 05:38 PM
Oct 2017

The paramedic was alarmed enough by the guy’s behavior that he got the gun away from him and very shortly gives it back to him. The cop is obviously still having his “episode” as he heaves and gasps until the video ends. Seems to me that the paramedic involved in this fiasco needs to review procedures involving someone having an episode like this cop was having. It WAS clearly not over when he gave the gun back.

And correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t the cop the only one who fired a weapon? And then he screams that shots are fired and calls for back up help? He had some kind of break with reality.

If this deputy is still on this department and I lived in Servier County, I think I’d be looking for another county or state to live. 😳

tblue37

(65,662 posts)
33. An article I read said the guy who scared him (the man they arrested) had a cellphone
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:40 PM
Oct 2017

and warned that he was filming the arrest of his girlfriend. But in his report, scaredycop claimed the guy said he had a gun and was going to shoot him.

maxrandb

(15,474 posts)
23. I doubt a sheriff with a nickname Hoss
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

Is going to be ordering any namby-pamby psych eval.

He should, but I'd bet against it. I'm sure it's the guy on the grounds fault.

tblue37

(65,662 posts)
34. A friend of his said in a comment on YouTube that he is still on the force but
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:41 PM
Oct 2017

mostly just does security at Dollywood.

Solly Mack

(90,841 posts)
36. He shouldn't be doing any sort of police/security work.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:07 PM
Oct 2017

I think he should be charged for his actions.

I appreciate he has a problem, but that doesn't excuse that he could have easily killed everyone in front of him.

That the EMT guy gave the gun back to him was appalling.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
26. Glad no one got hurt, and he can get some help. I suspect he'll be looking for another line of work.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 05:05 PM
Oct 2017

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
39. Walk over
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:17 AM
Oct 2017

Walk over here.
Don't move.

I just love when they issue contradicting instructions and then say, you were not following my instructions.
When there is more than one doing it, I understand people panicking.

I almost always support the police, too.

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