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BREAKING: AP finds families of dead soldiers NEVER contacted by Trump... (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2017 OP
What? And miss his tee time? lpbk2713 Oct 2017 #1
He could have called from the golf course FakeNoose Oct 2017 #38
I bet his factcheckers told him that Ilsa Oct 2017 #2
They would not be a "Democratic" family, they would be a trc Oct 2017 #6
Why? marybourg Oct 2017 #11
It is a favorite tactic of RepubliCons to use "Democrat" wherever "Democratic" is correct. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #12
I know. I'm just trying to find out marybourg Oct 2017 #13
I had this discussion with my repub sister when she used the "democrat" trc Oct 2017 #40
I think that their point was that that is what Trumps staff would have said. yardwork Oct 2017 #55
It depends on whether you are using Dem as a noun or an adjective. Stonepounder Oct 2017 #21
"So, a Democratic voter votes for a Democrat." Yes. marybourg Oct 2017 #25
Yes, "Democratic" is the grammaticly correct adjective -- whathehell Oct 2017 #60
Thank you for the explanation. I get tired of reading this Alice11111 Oct 2017 #47
Thank You! FarPoint Oct 2017 #34
I had no idea this was a thing. You have made me more educated. Thanks! nt ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #52
DU educated me a while back, so I'm just returning the favor! You're welcome. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #54
Goes back to the 1940's, trc Oct 2017 #36
That's what the marybourg Oct 2017 #43
Here's a link to a source discussing the term trc Oct 2017 #44
Thank you! I read the beginning of the marybourg Oct 2017 #45
No. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #14
Is this something you learned from FarPoint Oct 2017 #32
I thought the silliness of the comment would get a chuckle trc Oct 2017 #39
Or that the soldier was Black or Hispanic. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #57
Etienne Murphy was African-American. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #58
or from "Poooo-where-toe Reeee-co". nt Ilsa Oct 2017 #59
the republicans lies about our American soldiers are a disgrace Achilleaze Oct 2017 #3
Paper patriot. ffr Oct 2017 #4
GOPers made lying an evil art form Iliyah Oct 2017 #5
Trump only called the few families because the press called him on it Gothmog Oct 2017 #7
Id be more surprised to hear that he had acted honorably. Bluepinky Oct 2017 #8
Yep, that would be the surprise. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #48
Trump is a perfect example of how the GOPutin thinks and works... C Moon Oct 2017 #9
But, but I do both. spartan61 Oct 2017 #10
Trump is a defective product - a product of his 42bambi Oct 2017 #15
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #16
Do we know that Sheila Murphy marybourg Oct 2017 #17
that's a good point renate Oct 2017 #20
Grumpy Cat insists he has. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #18
This is horrible that the families must now face additional pain because of this asshole William Seger Oct 2017 #19
Huckabee spawn: "I can assure you there is proof that he did. General Kelly was there" dalton99a Oct 2017 #22
How convenient that Kelly is not talking adigal Oct 2017 #42
Thank you. Solomon Oct 2017 #53
Lost in the mail no doubt. All the more reason to privatize the US Postal Service. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #23
Probably better that way Takket Oct 2017 #24
I would not want a call from him or his ilk either. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #49
I wonder if there is anything trump would not lie about liberal N proud Oct 2017 #26
I think we all know the answer to that one...and it ain't pretty, Stuart G Oct 2017 #29
Figures trump is a lying sack of shit gopiscrap Oct 2017 #27
If my family member died in combat, I wouldn't accept a call gopiscrap Oct 2017 #28
Sadly, this does not surprise me packman Oct 2017 #30
Get ready for a boost in the Rasmussen Poll Doodley Oct 2017 #31
Trump is a failure as a human being lunatica Oct 2017 #33
There have only been 25 dead since Trump took office. He only needed to make 25 calls. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #35
Dotard is a sick man with a sick mind on record saying he does Enoki33 Oct 2017 #37
Well, to be candid, I can't understand why any parent or family member Joe Chi Minh Oct 2017 #41
!!! Alice11111 Oct 2017 #50
Mrs. Murphy was on with Lawrence O'Donnell tonight Rhiannon12866 Oct 2017 #46
in his mind the deaths of our soldiers are just onetexan Oct 2017 #51
Not To Rain RobinA Oct 2017 #56

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
38. He could have called from the golf course
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:40 PM
Oct 2017

What's the point of having a cellphone if you can't use it on the golf course?

Just sayin'

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
2. I bet his factcheckers told him that
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:51 PM
Oct 2017

the family was Democratic, so he said, "Why bother? They aren't my people."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
12. It is a favorite tactic of RepubliCons to use "Democrat" wherever "Democratic" is correct.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:42 PM
Oct 2017

It is the Democratic Party, the Democratic Senator from California, the Democratic campaign, etc.

trc

(823 posts)
40. I had this discussion with my repub sister when she used the "democrat"
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:51 PM
Oct 2017

slur. I pointed out that it was in fact a slur started in the 40's. To her credit, once she looked it up she apologized and said that that was how she had always said it. That was my point, an operative would not think of saying "Democratic" party, but instead use the pejorative term, "democrat" party.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
21. It depends on whether you are using Dem as a noun or an adjective.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:17 PM
Oct 2017

The word Republican can be either a noun or an adjective, Democrat has distinctive noun and adjective forms.

A republican form of government
The Republican party
The Republican National Committee
Republicans with strong principles.

A democratic form of government
The Democratic party
The Democratic National Committee
Democrats with strong principles.

So, a Democratic voter votes for a Democrat.
A Republican voter votes for a Republican.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
25. "So, a Democratic voter votes for a Democrat." Yes.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:48 PM
Oct 2017

But that's not what the poster was getting at. Just the opposite. He said "They would not be a Democratic family. They would be a Democrat family. (Emphasis mine.) Wrong grammatically, but hewing to the wingnut line.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
60. Yes, "Democratic" is the grammaticly correct adjective --
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 11:21 AM
Oct 2017

The pukes know this, but likely also know "democratic" sounds quite positive, and so "shortened" it to sound LESS positive.

trc

(823 posts)
36. Goes back to the 1940's,
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:35 PM
Oct 2017

Calling the "Democratic" party the "democrat" party was intended as a slur, it is still used as a slur. My point was that a rethug operative would use the slur...a misguided attempt at humor on my part.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
43. That's what the
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:30 PM
Oct 2017
smilie is for.

And I go back to the 40's also, and don't recall ever hearing the publicans trying to re-brand the dems until the advent of the awful newt gingerich

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
45. Thank you! I read the beginning of the
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:54 PM
Oct 2017

New Yorker article (they're always a little longer than I can bear, but I'll go back to this one) and it was, as usual interesting and beautifully written. I do remember the Army-McCarthy hearings, but I was too young for the distinction between Democratic and Democrat to register, if I heard it at all.. Until middle age, I lived in a very blue world where even the Publicans (that's what I call them, in retaliation for truncating the name of our party) were liberal, so I never heard anyone try to denigrate Democrats until the ugliness of newt g.

I was glad to read that my favorite Publican, William F. Buckley Jr., eschewed (as he would have said) the use of the slur.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
14. No.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:45 PM
Oct 2017

It is a favorite tactic of RepubliCons to use "Democrat" wherever "Democratic" is correct. Gives them jollies for reasons we do not need to repeat here.

It is the Democratic Party, the Democratic Senator from California, the Democratic campaign, etc.

Likewise, Democratic voters, Democratic supporters, Democratic families.



FarPoint

(12,361 posts)
32. Is this something you learned from
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:19 PM
Oct 2017

Rush?????? I'm disheartened by the comment you made.... Maybe you can learn from you errors and not offend ... I hope you correct the comment....we all deserve respect.

trc

(823 posts)
39. I thought the silliness of the comment would get a chuckle
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:40 PM
Oct 2017

I was mistaken. And I don't listen to rush, so I can honestly say I have learned nothing from him...come to think of it, all his listeners can say that as well.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. GOPers made lying an evil art form
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:56 PM
Oct 2017

Who ever responds to the insanity from the WH and/or GOPer's are liars tooooooooooooooooooo.

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
8. Id be more surprised to hear that he had acted honorably.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:08 PM
Oct 2017

He’s a lying, dishonorable, racist con man who doesn’t have the strength of character or decency to do the right thing (especially if there’s no monetary payoff).

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
9. Trump is a perfect example of how the GOPutin thinks and works...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:26 PM
Oct 2017

Trump is just not as good at hiding/covering it as the others are.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
10. But, but I do both.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:31 PM
Oct 2017

“I call and write letters.” Sure you do, A$$hole. What a poor excuse for a human. So disgusting.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
17. Do we know that Sheila Murphy
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:56 PM
Oct 2017

(and any other mother) were actually listed as next-of-kin on their son's records, or is there a wife who might have been so designated and actually contacted?

Just don't want to have to walk back any "fake" accusations; he does horrible things almost hourly. Don't need to give the wingnuts any reason to gloat, if the proper person was actually contacted.

renate

(13,776 posts)
20. that's a good point
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:15 PM
Oct 2017

It would just take one misstep on a Democrat's part and the GOP will be dining out on that story for days.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
42. How convenient that Kelly is not talking
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:47 PM
Oct 2017

Kelly is a racist POS just like Trump. Wherever did he get painted as a decent guy? He was horrendous at the DHS, enabked Trump's terrible lies about the 3 million illegal votes, and joked that Trump,should use a sword on the media.
So, how is he a good person?

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
53. Thank you.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 05:58 AM
Oct 2017

All the love and respect for Kelly has been tripping me out. I don't get it. When did he become the good guy all of a sudden?

Takket

(21,565 posts)
24. Probably better that way
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:20 PM
Oct 2017

I'd rather get no call tgan a call from someone pretending to care that I know is probably calling me from the 19th hole at his golf club.

gopiscrap

(23,760 posts)
28. If my family member died in combat, I wouldn't accept a call
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:52 PM
Oct 2017

from that fucker, unless it was to ream him out

SunSeeker

(51,553 posts)
35. There have only been 25 dead since Trump took office. He only needed to make 25 calls.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:31 PM
Oct 2017

Obama had 400 his first year.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
37. Dotard is a sick man with a sick mind on record saying he does
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:36 PM
Oct 2017

not like heroes who are captured, therefore by extension....his words to a grieving mother are even more despicable.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
41. Well, to be candid, I can't understand why any parent or family member
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:09 PM
Oct 2017

would want to hear the forced commiserations of strangers, least of all of politicians, who each year 'sell' their voters 'down the river' to whoever pay the largest contributions to their campaigns - in hock to Big Business ; who cause the damned wars, in the forst place, and then massively underfund veterans' health care. Are they not also said to include an unusually high number of convicted felons, multiple bankrupts (cough) (cough) and individuals awaiting trial. They sound like our lot at Westminster.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
51. in his mind the deaths of our soldiers are just
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 03:09 AM
Oct 2017

collateral. This narcissistic man's dark soul has no empathy or compassion for anyone.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
56. Not To Rain
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 08:46 AM
Oct 2017

on anybody's outrage parade, but where did this calling families of dead soldiers even start? If we were in an all out shooting war, Presidents would certainly not be calling parents. And what determines whether someone gets a call? Killed overseas? Killed by an enemy bullet? What if someone falls off a mountain in Afghanistan? He wouldn't have been there if the military hadn't sent him, do his parents get a call? To me it seems that this practice is just a set up for hurling invective at whichever President you don't like. Trump called this person and said this, Obama didn't call this family but did call these people, this guy dies on Election Day and didn't hear from anybody, these people didn't get a call because they were black/white/Hispanic/female/transgender/homosexual/from CA/from TX/from PR/a Muslim/an anchor baby/related to Hilary/friends with John Kerry/went to school with Ivanka/knew Bill Ayres repeat, repeat, repeat. No good can come of it in these times.

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