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Part 1 is here.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/hes-poison
Part II
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/hes-poison-part-ii
By JOSH MARSHALL Published OCTOBER 18, 2017 11:53 AM
Were now getting all the accounts of just what President Trump said last night to the widow of Sgt. La David T. Johnson, how she interpreted it, how her Congresswoman did, how her family did. These are harrowing situations under the best circumstances. Even for a normal person, a normal President, its hard to know just what to say. But why are we here? Why is this whole thing happening? Its happening because, for whatever reason, Trump went silent on this, not only with the families but even with the public.
Then when he got called on it, or just asked about it frankly. He lashed out at President Obama. He lied about President Obama in the worst way imaginable. And Bush too. Then he brought James Kellys dead son into the mix of it. Then this call happened.
Dont get me wrong. It sounds like what the President said on this call was awful. Its hardly out of character for President Trump. He thanks people for great turnouts at refugee relief centers. He asks people whove lost everything whether theyre having a good time.
But I want to step back from the immediate moment of this call to look at this whole unfolding moment over the last two or three days. Its what I said yesterday. President Trump is poison. Everything around him gets damaged and degraded. Its not any one thing. Its everything. Its hard to evaluate the dynamics of this call out of the context of waiting ten days, lying about his predecessors, creating this hideous spectacle with John Kellys son. Was the family prepped for something off because of the preceding three days? Probably. Was Trump angry about all the criticism? Probably so. Its a perfect storm. And it all builds out of one man, Donald Trump.
Theres a big debate about Trump and clinical diagnoses. Malignant narcissism is the one most clinicians refer to. But thats a distraction. Youre talking about someone with a profound selfishness, a jarring inability to experience empathy and a kind of ravenous emotional predation. Someone who is a profound narcissist is inherently erratic and destructive to those around him since he is acting according to his own impulses, angers and appetites with a relative indifference or even a sort of blindness to those around him. They dont exist. Lots of wreckage is inevitable. Thats what its like living, trapped, in a house with an abuser. This is what its like living in a country with a President whos a predator.
He poisons everything. No one gets out undamaged. Some are damaged profoundly.
niyad
(113,302 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Nailed it. This is not going away for Mean Donnie,he knows it keeps him in the News Cycle.
lark
(23,099 posts)He doesn't want to talk about Niger because he personally created the situation that got them killed. His petty grievances against Chad, plus their fight with Exxon over $ owed led him to add Chad to the no travel list, even though they are top notch in their efforts to fight ISIS. Chad pulled out of Niger and just a few days later the Americans were killed. Drumpf nor his minions gave one second of thought to the people that would be caught in the cross fire of his ire and stupidity so the soldiers were killed without Chad there to protect them.
Drumpf will do anything to hide this truth, he actually helped ISIS and got Americans killed by his pettiness and stupidity. He's not letting the lies go because they are the cover he's chosen for his murderous non-caring about our military men in harms' way.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the GOP ran a Benghazi Campaign against Clinton for how many centuries? Well,leaders within the GOP knew once this info hit the News,there were done. Now it has turned into a Cover-Up much like Iran Contra was for them.
Remember,Reagan Administration had Seventy some people go to Jail as a result of obstruction and Lieing to various Law Enforcement Agencies
And in the mean time,the GOP has started the 1.5 wealth transfer to the Koch's and Walton families.
MFM008
(19,808 posts)Is right.
eShirl
(18,491 posts)dalton99a
(81,485 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)Putin conned king con.
It's payback for us getting Alaska 'on sale'.
Gothmog
(145,208 posts)dalton99a
(81,485 posts)We all are damaged as a country and as a people
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)The other 50% is just as bad...Sociopath. Put the two together and you have an extremely mentally ill person who should not be running a lemonade stand let alone a world power. I saved two good articles from psychologists that even I can comprehend easily. One is about sociopaths and the other is about the mental make up of his cult-like base.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/15/16144070/psychology-alt-right
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)I mean, of course Trump is poison. And he doesn't have empathy. He cares only about himself.
But also, why isn't the MSM asking what we were even doing in Niger, right after Niger and Russia had signed a military cooperation agreement? https://globeafrique.com/russia-nigeria-sig-military-compact/
Here are four people dead, the same number as Benghazi, but where are the calls for an investigation?
We're concentrating on the wrong thing here, I think.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)when he didn't have to. He would claim he did more than other Presidents and she was deeply moved and grateful for his notice and impressed with how much he obviously cared about her late husband, what's-his-name. (Because he couldn't take two seconds to remember, or even read from notes, "La David Johnson."
lark
(23,099 posts)Winner, winner, chicken dinner! this is distracton and diversion from drumpfs horrible decision re Chad and possible pandering to Putin as a side dish.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)monstrosity when he was young? Are his parents responsible for the ugly, despicable, repulsive turd he morphed into? Was he brain damaged from an STI? What ever happened, it seems to have trickled down to his offspring. They seem to be just as inhuman as dear old dad. Every one of them takes care of #1 - themselves. Unless (like Beavis) they need $$$$ to pay lawyers. Eric, the eerie one, seems to staying off the radar at the moment. Where is princess Ivanka? No recent photo ops, no bursting into meetings at the WH. Maybe she is consulting with divorce lawyers, protecting her (ill gotten Chinese) gains from the Kushner's family debacle at 666 in NY?
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)Also this last sentence....:He poisons everything. No one gets out undamaged. Some are damaged profoundly.
After reading this article, along with Part I..there is only one question to ask, just one:
..Is Josh Marshall telling the truth?
If a person believes he is, and I do, the rest follows. What else is there to say? I certainly would like to hear any and all opposing views. Thank You for reading this.
Bucky
(54,005 posts)a twenty year old soldier or marine today, who's fighting al-Qaeda offshoots like Isis or Boko Haram, was barely walking and not even reading yet when we started our war against "global terrorism"
it is the neverending war, a hallmark of empire, an anathema to democracy
Trump wasn't just imposed on us by the Russians. We earned him.
guss
(239 posts)Golf, and Tweet, Eat a huge piece of Cake while America fails..