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cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
3. I heard a police chief interviewed on NPR years ago
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:33 AM
Oct 2017

about his opposition to homeowners having guns "for protection." His argument, I think, is unanswerable.

You hear a noise at night, take your loaded gun out from under your pillow and creep downstairs. You see a stranger rifling through your silverware. What do you do?

"Stick 'em up"--if the burglar has a gun, he's going to shoot you.

Shoot the burglar only to find out that it's your teenage son sleepwalking? Or a neighbor who got drunk and entered your house by mistake? Your wife getting a glass of water?

Sure, it might be a burglar. But it might not. The chance that it isn't someone bent on mischief may be small, but an error in your judgment will be devastating--do you want to risk the life of someone you know and/or love on the *chance* that he or she is a burglar?

And suppose it really is a burglar, and you've shot him (or her). Does breaking and entering and attempted theft merit being shot, maybe killed? A person convicted of burglary is not going to be sentenced to death--where do you get the authority to try, convict and inflict punishment on someone who might not be a burglar at all?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
4. IF someone was so inclined to own one nowadays I think it would be for another type of
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:34 AM
Oct 2017

burglar.

The kind stealing your country.

My post is of course about the need to vote for any democrat.

hlthe2b

(102,260 posts)
6. that is exactly what I argue with gun-owning friends who think I'm nuts for not wanting a gun...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:52 AM
Oct 2017

and the contempt fairly oozes (from these self-identified "devout Christians&quot when I state that I'd rather face the repercussions, including potentially losing my own life, rather than face a life-time of guilt for the death of another--especially an innocent.


I clearly must have come from another world, or at least relate more to current progressive European (and Australian) thoughts on the issue.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
5. Spot handles the armed robbers in my house. Sometimes I find partially digested guns in his poop.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:49 AM
Oct 2017


Is your post about a TV advertisement? I never see those. No cable, no satellite, no broadcast. My TV plays movies, that's all it does.

So far as the alarm industry goes, I don't allow imaginary bad guys live in my head. I can't see any reason I'd buy either a gun or an expensive subscription alarm service.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
9. I fully agree with you. These are the circumstances that call for a United Front
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:15 PM
Oct 2017

And I have not been critical of Blue Dog congressional Democrats for not being liberal enough since Trump took office.

I wanted Mello to beat a far worse Republican in that Nebraska Congressional Special election.

I support the Democratic candidates for Governor in both New Jersey and Virginia, and even though the latter state had a very competitive primary, I was respectful toward both leading Democratic candidates rather than help incite divisions within our party..

I assume the position you are advocating extends as well to non-party members who caucus with Democrats in Congress, who side with the Democratic agenda more often than some of our moderate elected Democrats, and who join with us in strongly opposing the Trump Administration agenda.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
10. I wanted to add a need for united support for our House and Senate leadership to the list
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 03:18 PM
Oct 2017

Now is NOT the time for anyone to seek to remove Nancy Pelosi from her post. She is one of the most effective leaders we have ever had in the House. No wonder Republicans try to demonize her. There is time to begin grooming younger leadership after the 2018 elections.

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