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The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate ReleaseOctober 20, 2017
Presidential Executive Order Amending Executive Order 13223
EXECUTIVE ORDER
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AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 13223
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and in furtherance of the objectives of Proclamation 7463 of September 14, 2001 (Declaration of National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks), which declared a national emergency by reason of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, in New York and Pennsylvania and against the Pentagon, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States, and in order to provide the Secretary of Defense additional authority to manage personnel requirements in a manner consistent with the authorization provided in Executive Order 13223 of September 14, 2001 (Ordering the Ready Reserve of the Armed Forces to Active Duty and Delegating Certain Authorities to the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Transportation), it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Amendment to Executive Order 13223. Section 1 of Executive Order 13223 is amended by adding at the end: "The authorities available for use during a national emergency under sections 688 and 690 of title 10, United States Code, are also invoked and made available, according to their terms, to the Secretary concerned, subject in the case of the Secretaries of the Army, Navy, and Air Force, to the direction of the Secretary of Defense."
Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
DONALD J. TRUMP
THE WHITE HOUSE,
October 20, 2017.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/10/20/presidential-executive-order-amending-executive-order-13223
AJT
(5,240 posts)What part has changed?
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)This is significant
AJT
(5,240 posts)If someone is retired, and I am assuming that means service of at least 20 years, aren't they kind of old to be called back up? If a person joins at 18 they'd be 38, and that's if they just retired.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)The posters who say it is has know nothing about existing law. The EO is a technical document about civilian authority relating to existing law about military recall in case of national emergency.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)So if you signed up for three, you could recalled for an additional 5. A four year enlistment had a four year
recall.
So what does this EO do then?
Sgent
(5,857 posts)a normal enlistment is 8 years, but retired means they did at least 20 years and are receiving retirement pay. Retired are not separated from the service.
Got it.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Can't have a worldwide conflagration/Armageddon without a draft now can we?
Initech
(100,068 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The only terrorists I'm worried about call themselves republican.
sdfernando
(4,935 posts)Would love to see him call up my 90yo Father...Regular Army officer....veteran of WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Im sure he could help The orange one....but wait!...Hes brown and Mexican. Cant have that!
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Then what? I would go to jail first and I would guess many will.
procon
(15,805 posts)Under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Defense, a member described in subsection (b) may be ordered to active duty by the Secretary of the military department concerned at any time.
(b)Covered Members.Except as provided in subsection (d), subsection (a) applies to the following members of the armed forces:
(1) A retired member of the Regular Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or RegularMarine Corps.
(2) A member of the Retired Reserve who was retired under section 1293, 3911, 3914, 6323, 8911, or 8914 of this title.
(3) A member of the Fleet Reserve or Fleet Marine Corps Reserve.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/688
former9thward
(31,997 posts)It is about clarifying command authority in case of national emergency. Some posters who don't know the law are trying to make it more than it is. Typical internet BS.
bdtrppr6
(796 posts)cannon fodder.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)would I have military ground support, or a civilian flying taxi cab?