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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 07:57 AM Oct 2017

The Four Red States Where Trump 2020 Is Already in Trouble

Two hundred thousand Puerto Ricans are moving to Florida, but that’s just for openers. Trump could face problems in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Wisconsin, too.

LIZ MAIR
10.25.17 5:00 AM ET

In the first nine months of his presidency, Donald Trump has made a name for himself with big moves designed to satisfy his voters and embarrass fellow Republicans nationwide. His pet hobbies of relentlessly attacking the media, putting Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan in political jams, and tweeting inaccurate, inflammatory, and downright weird things has fed into a trend of all politics being national.

But the truth is, politics in America remains heavily focused on local and regional concerns. Trump knows it. He ran a campaign with this front of mind, and won. And now, he may be setting himself up to lose in 2020, thanks to actions he’s taken that could cause significant problems for him in crucial states.

Let’s accept that the Trump administration’s handling of the still dire situation in Puerto Rico has been poor. Trump himself has inflamed things with comments seeming to blame the island territory for its predicament. His administration has worsened things through its failure to provide ongoing waivers from the Jones Act, or even to lift drone regulations impeding the use of unmanned aerial vehicles to provide small-level disaster relief the way the Red Cross did in the wake of Hurricane Harvey.

Trump has picked fights with Puerto Rican leaders and appeared boorish and insensitive to a group of U.S. citizens who are now fleeing the island in droves and moving to—you guessed it—Florida, where they will presumably vote in the next presidential election. Earlier this week, HuffPost’s Jennifer Bendery noted that the Center for Puerto Rican Studies at the City University of New York’s Hunter College is projecting that 200,000 people will leave Puerto Rico in Hurricane Maria’s aftermath, with most of them resettling in the Sunshine State. Two hundred thousand is more than Trump’s margin of victory there over Hillary Clinton, a shockingly weak opponent (he won the state by a mere 113,000).

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The Four Red States Where Trump 2020 Is Already in Trouble (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
I think Trump will face a primary and a different candidate will be chosen. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #1
Won't have problems in SlowHio. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #2
Easy. Florida largely Republican since 2000. delisen Oct 2017 #3
I live in Florida. You are wrong on several of your conclusions. Blue_true Oct 2017 #5
Michigan D_Master81 Oct 2017 #4
This is great news Gothmog Oct 2017 #6

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
2. Won't have problems in SlowHio.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:19 AM
Oct 2017

How did this state go from voting Barack Obama twice to only winning EIGHT counties in 2016, becoming almost as deep red as Texas?

The 7th most populated state in the Nation should not EVER have put a know-nothing serial sexual assaulter and corporate fuck-up as President.

Of course, the 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 8th, 9th and 10th shouldn't have done so either.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
3. Easy. Florida largely Republican since 2000.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 10:41 AM
Oct 2017

It did not just magically become deep red.

These are the political household names:
Jeb Bush, Charlie Crist, Rick Scott, Pam Bondi, Marco rubio republican House and republican State Senate.
Pam Bondi replaced Katherine Harris who was Secretary of State in 2000 and worked for Bush in the recount.

(Oh yes, democrat Bill Nelson has been hanging in there as US senator). ---but Rick Scott, 2x republican governor wants his seat in 2018. (Rick Scott got into the governorship in 2010 -year after passage of ACA healthcare and rise of the tea party. 2010 was pivotal year-we won passage of ACA healthcare, and Republicans won elective offices all over the country.

Florida has a well-earned reputation for voter suppression and for miscounting votes.

Election 2000 --the infamous "count" and recount that kept Al Gore out of the presidency.

Democrats have been going downhill and Republicans have been in the ascendency in Florida for 2 decades. Republican run state houses in re-apportionment years get to gerrymander in safe Republican districts.

The 2 wins of Obama have been the exception, not the rule and the Republican strength in the US legislative branch was able to block progress during those eight years. Obama himself has acknowledged that it is difficult to carry out the duties of the presidency and attend to party building.

Wikipedia has a useful graphic about Florida:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_Florida

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. I live in Florida. You are wrong on several of your conclusions.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 11:50 AM
Oct 2017

On registering to vote in Florida:
People can register at the motor vehicle registries, county libraries, at the county registrar's office. The DMV has five days per week service as does the CRO. The library has 5-7 day service depending on the branch. To register to vote, you need a valid Florida Driver's license or ID Card from the DMV or other certified agency. To get a Driver license or ID card, you need a photo ID if any kind and a state stamped birth certificate - or if you don't have the BC, you can use a valid US Passport or one that has not expired for longer than I think 3 months. None of that stuff is impossible to get, but does require focus and determination.

On Florida being red. Most of the large cities except for a handful are decidedly BLUE. The legislature has been effective at gerrymandering down the power of cities, but as cities continue to grow, their efforts are meeting more challenge. In my part of Florida, it has historically been very red until about a decade ago when it started trending red-purple, we still have work to do, but it is not impossible. My part of Florida was settled by the original "Crackers", they were not lenient on things like race equally and that lingered until the current decade where big change is happening.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
4. Michigan
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 11:08 AM
Oct 2017

Theres no way in hell he wins Michigan again. He won by like what, 10, 000 votes? Thats like obama winning indiana in 08.

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