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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat If George Herbert Walker Bush is non compos mentis ?
How should we look at his groping in light of that ?
snowybirdie
(5,225 posts)But was juried out of my message.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Mediumsizedhand
(531 posts)victim's responsibility nor her obligation to endure.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)snowybirdie
(5,225 posts)away from getting too close in the future. He likely won't be seen much any longer
Mediumsizedhand
(531 posts)That is wrong. They were aware and they ignored or giggled. Culturally, that is all of our issue.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)He has Vascular Parkonism which is caused be a series of small strokes. It's not a stretch to believe the strokes affected other parts of his brain. I'm not a physician but I am confident one would confirm my observation.
Mediumsizedhand
(531 posts)SS knew. Mama Bush knows. None of them have told him to knock it off, not funny. And they allow the women to be in a position of groping. They could have easily addressed. No harm, no foul. It simply was not a big deal to any of them, and placed the blame on the woman that had ass grabbed.
Yes they are responsible. I do not know HW's cognitive and if impaired. I do know it happened enough for them to claim he uses the same joke and positions himself in the same manner to do it. But, it was unnecessary.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)having done many of those cases, it would be hard in court. The victims would have to go after their employer, who maybe was liable, to those who reported it, but the statute has probably expired anyway.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)of UNWANTED MALE TOUCHING, GRABBING, ASSAULTING, AND RAPING.
Bush is a MAN; he is not some other-worldly creature untainted by good and bad urges.
spinbaby
(15,089 posts)Thats what the euphemistically named Memory Unit is for. My 93-year-old mother randomly undresses herself and thats where she is.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)The Secret Service that's with him in public at all times should protect him from himselfand if it cannot be managed, he should not appear in public or get within 10 feet of anybody's ass. Question if he starts jerking off in public is that OK too because old?
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)his medication may be causing inappropriate sexual behavior.
Hypersexuality (HS) was one of the earliest examples of an impulse control disorder (ICD) or behavior to be associated with treatment for Parkinson's disease (PD), with an estimated prevalence of approximately 3.5%.
http://www.movementdisorders.org/MDS/Journals/Clinical-Practice-E-Journal-Overview/Clinical-Practice---Volume-2-Issue-2/Hypersexuality-Parkinsons-Disease-Systematic-Review.htm
No solace to the woman he groped, and his caregivers should know not to allow him to be in a situation where he can do such things. I've seen a Parkinson's patient literally chase a nurse around the examining room. If he is being treated for Parkinson's, this behavior is not under his conscious control.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)that along with some pretty horrific spontaneous verbal tics are not uncommon manifestations as diseases progresses.
If that is the case, I think the family should acknowledge that (however, I sort of think this may have been a problem much earlier, given Barbara's response.
malaise
(268,967 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,422 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)If his family says he is suffering from dementia I will consider that to be a valid defense, but up to the two women to decide if it is forgivable. I think the spokesperson apologized because it's been going on a long, long time.
I also think that neither woman would have come forward if she believed he had dementia. I trust their judgment.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'll bet folding money he's simply a creepy guy... like so many others are.
Yet even were he not in control, his handlers bring him to public events directly implying either he can control himself, or they can for him.