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diva77

(7,641 posts)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:15 PM Oct 2017

Any chance that the Kochs have been implicated in any of Mueller's findings?

After reading this post from 3-25-17, I wonder?? I may have missed discussion of this - but I'm sure wondering about it now

Koch Bromance with Russia Needs Investigating; Koch Funding Behind Nunes-Gowdy Attempts to Scuttle Russia Investigation?

https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/koch-bromance-with-russia-needs-investigating-koch-funding-behind-nunes-gowdy-attempts-to-scuttle-russia-investigation/

https://www.c-span.org/video/?425087-1/fbi-director-says-hes-investigating-links-trump-campaign-russia
Representatives Devin Nunes and Trey Gowdy who appear to want to undermine the Trump-Russia investigation by the House Intelligence Committee are recipients of Koch money. From 2006 to 2010 Devin Nunes got $45,000 from Koch related PACs: http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Koch-Ind-Still-Fueling-Climate-Denial.pdf. His entire career he has gotten $56,500 from Koch Industries: https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00007248&type=I

Trey Gowdy got $8000 from Koch PAC(s) for the last election alone: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Koch_candidates,_2016 Trey Gowdy got at least $35,000 from the Kochs over his career (2009-16). https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cycle=Career&type=I&cid=N00030880&newMem=N. This, of course, pales compared to the $300,000 or more which David Koch has given VP Mike Pence: https://sunlightfoundation.com/2016/07/25/following-the-money-behind-mike-pence. However, some sell-out on the cheap.

In 1929 to 1931 Fred Koch, father to the Koch brothers, was in the Soviet Union building oil refineries for Stalin. He built refineries for Nazi Germany, too, prior to World War II. He returned to Russian in 1956 with a group of business people. He was in Iraq in 1958, just prior to the Iraq Coup/Revolution. Prior to working in the Soviet Union, he worked in England. See FBI documents embedded here: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/30/koch-brothers-fatherpolitics.html and here: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/1237279/fred-c-koch-fbi.pdf

Where is the evidence that he ever stopped doing business in Russia? It has been noted that it was only after this last trip that he became vocally anti-communist. Why? Or was it a cover for continued dealings with Russia? He was a founding member of the John Birch Society. Trump mentor, Roy Cohn, through whom he met Roger Stone (and apparently Paul Manafort) was also a member of the John Birch Society. In 2002, a Koch company imported petroleum from TNK to sell to the US government for its strategic reserve. It probably still imports Russian petroleum products – a lot is still imported. Did the Koch family ever stop working in Russia? Someone was already importing petroleum in the mid 90s. Who imported it? Are THE Kochs related to the Fred C. Koch, journalist, who was of Volga German ancestry, from Kolb, Russia? Putin kingmaker, Roman Abramovich, was born in Saratov, along the Volga river in Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans
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Any chance that the Kochs have been implicated in any of Mueller's findings? (Original Post) diva77 Oct 2017 OP
I think it's unlikely they'll be caught up in this, they didn't want Trump marylandblue Oct 2017 #1
I very highly doubt it. unblock Oct 2017 #2
Maybe the Mercers? coolsandy Oct 2017 #3
Of the Kochs or the Mercers, yes there's a chance of the Mercers. OnDoutside Oct 2017 #7
They were anti-Trump so I doubt it Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #4
They had very little to do with 45. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #5
The Kochs and Mercers are much smarter than Trump. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #6

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. I think it's unlikely they'll be caught up in this, they didn't want Trump
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

They only accept him now because they have no choice.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
2. I very highly doubt it.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:38 PM
Oct 2017

Those are people who know to hire actually talented lawyers, and who actually listen to them, and actually keep their mouths shut and otherwise follow the advice.

Getting the Koch brothers would help to dig us out from the abyss, but I highly doubt they'll even get a scrape.

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