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(85,996 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 11:58 AM Nov 2017

Bowe Bergdahl avoids jail time

The Rude Pundit‏ @rudepundit 1m1 minute ago
This is compassionate and sane. Whatever mistake he made, Bergdahl spent 5 years in hellish conditions. Enough.

Bowe Bergdahl receives dishonorable discharge, avoids jail time

report: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/03/politics/bowe-bergdahl-sentenced/index.html

...I'm really happy with this decision. He made a mistake and paid for it with years of captivity and torture. Hope he can begin to really heal. Welcome home.
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Bowe Bergdahl avoids jail time (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2017 OP
I'm glad to see the Military Justice System did the right thing. Today's "wars" aren't like WWII. Hoyt Nov 2017 #1
? The Polack MSgt Nov 2017 #3
Fortunately, military judges are educated and not likely gun-fanciers, etc. Hoyt Nov 2017 #6
You should take this on the road. The Polack MSgt Nov 2017 #7
I have family serving so I don't believe that. However, more than a few voted for Trump Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #11
The DOD is a big organization The Polack MSgt Nov 2017 #16
I understand. I am a navy brat born at Great Lakes...Mom and Dad were in the Navy...brother Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #17
Thanks to Trump's improper command influence comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #2
Yep! Donald such a dumbass buffoon. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #21
Good. shanny Nov 2017 #4
I agree with Rude Pundit Skittles Nov 2017 #5
I never liked the wartime framing of the charge being levied during a fake war. n/t Orsino Nov 2017 #8
Might choose a different term than "fake war," when soldiers are fighting and dying just the same Hekate Nov 2017 #14
Nope. It's a fake war that kills real people. Orsino Nov 2017 #15
I'll let DU veterans take it from here... Hekate Nov 2017 #19
I see what you are saying about the word "fake" but I don't agree. It is unfortunate that Trump has StevieM Nov 2017 #23
I don't think he should be dishonorably discharged but it is better than I expected. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #9
For the record, Gen. McCaffrey was on Katy Tur just now and sounded remarkably sympathetic Hekate Nov 2017 #10
And he is correct. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #12
As McCaffrey noted: yes, the Coast Guard washed him out quite promptly. He should not have been... Hekate Nov 2017 #18
Yes. The Coast Guard released him. He never should have been allowed to join the VermontKevin Nov 2017 #20
I'm absolutely with you on the medical treatment Hekate Nov 2017 #22
Excellent decision. n/t demmiblue Nov 2017 #13
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. I'm glad to see the Military Justice System did the right thing. Today's "wars" aren't like WWII.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:09 PM
Nov 2017

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
3. ?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:26 PM
Nov 2017

I'm sure you believe that any and all sanity in the DoD is an aberration.

Since you are on record as believing that the majority of us are white supremacist gun humping trumpsters and all.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9666539

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
7. You should take this on the road.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:17 PM
Nov 2017

You would make a mint on the comedy club circuit...

Seriously well done - a smear directed the enlisted, the NCOs and gun owners in 10 words.

Masterfully done

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
11. I have family serving so I don't believe that. However, more than a few voted for Trump
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:22 PM
Nov 2017

who will take their benefits if he can get away with it.

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
16. The DOD is a big organization
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:45 PM
Nov 2017

And it draws it's numbers from the same America we all live in.

There are plenty of racists and other scumbags that join.

No veteran or currently serving member would claim otherwise. I certainly don't

My issue with the other poster is his repeated open disdain for our profession and the assumption that our poorest examples are the norm.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
17. I understand. I am a navy brat born at Great Lakes...Mom and Dad were in the Navy...brother
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:46 PM
Nov 2017

and sister are Marines...a niece in the Air Force and two nephews in the Navy. I am proud of all of them. I did not read the post so I cannot speak to that. But know that many of us here do appreciate our men and women in uniform. I sure do. I understand what it is to have your Dad deployed and to worry about the safety of my loved ones in uniform. I did not serve myself so I don't say I understand what you are going though...but I appreciate what you do.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
14. Might choose a different term than "fake war," when soldiers are fighting and dying just the same
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:30 PM
Nov 2017

The Congress has not done its job, but men and women have been dying in combat since 9-11.

"Fake" Anything is a Trumpian term. Please let's not adopt it.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
15. Nope. It's a fake war that kills real people.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:32 PM
Nov 2017

A gutless Congress gave warmaking powers directly unto a bad president, our better president failed to end those fake wars, and now they are in the hands of an even worse president.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
19. I'll let DU veterans take it from here...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:57 PM
Nov 2017

I'm just a civilian who came of age during the Vietnam War era.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
23. I see what you are saying about the word "fake" but I don't agree. It is unfortunate that Trump has
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:22 PM
Nov 2017

co-opted that word. But we still need it.

Fake history is a good phrase to describe a lot of what the GOP likes to work with in order to cultivate their goals.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
10. For the record, Gen. McCaffrey was on Katy Tur just now and sounded remarkably sympathetic
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:22 PM
Nov 2017

It was not just the words, but his expression and tone of voice. He said, among other things, that Bergdahl was a "poor guy who never should have been in the military in the first place," that justice had been done, and (of Trump's comments) that any uniformed military officer who had made those statements "would have been fired."

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
18. As McCaffrey noted: yes, the Coast Guard washed him out quite promptly. He should not have been...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:54 PM
Nov 2017

...in uniform -- iirc, there were discussions about that in print about the time of his release, and a general feeling that he was unsuitable for mental health reasons, a rather vague and capacious statement. But the Army has quotas to meet...

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
20. Yes. The Coast Guard released him. He never should have been allowed to join the
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:04 PM
Nov 2017

Army.

I agree with the sentence except in one instance: I think he should keep his medical benefits. He has psychological problems and needs treatment.

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