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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 12:40 AM Nov 2017

Former VA Guv Wilder hasn't endorsed Northam (D) in a neck to neck race.

What's up with that? First Donna Brazile's book, now a non-endorsement? This shouldn't be a close race in a state that voted for Hillary and with Trump's record so far. This doesn't look good.

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Former VA Guv Wilder hasn't endorsed Northam (D) in a neck to neck race. (Original Post) Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 OP
Who? nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #1
Wilder has done this before. RandySF Nov 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #3
One is out bashing Democrats and one won't endorse a Democrat leftofcool Nov 2017 #4
It's because they are both prominent dems who seem to be insistent on shooting the party in the foot Salviati Nov 2017 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #8
It brings back the 16 bitterness and will dampen voters enthusiasm for the Democrat since Donna Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #11
Anything that hurts the Dem. Party hurts the Democratic candidates. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #20
Wilder has always been a contrarian showboat Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2017 #6
Agreed. Reading anything into this is a mistake. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #15
The people of VA have a way of deciding for themselves what's important. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #23
And don't forget the dumb move by the DFA declaring no support for Northam. brush Nov 2017 #7
I know and I have supported them for years...they are dead to me now...they sent me an text about Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #12
Strong move. I hope they get the message for their unfathomable non-support of Northam brush Nov 2017 #13
Obama is on the phones. I got a call from him yesterday supporting Northam, Fairfax, and Herring. FSogol Nov 2017 #14
Great. brush Nov 2017 #19
Is his endorsement contingent upon a position in the DNC or elsewhere? no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #9
He endorsed for LG. He is one of those very concerned people. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #10
Unrec: This story is just intended to bash Northam on the day before the election. FSogol Nov 2017 #16
Agree totally. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #17
That's illogical. Concern for endorsement failures & attacks on Dem Party is not bashing Northam. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #21
Endorsement failures? Does everyone endorse everyone? No, why bring it up? FSogol Nov 2017 #24
Self-immolation lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #18
"Neck to neck" is not American idiom - that would be "neck and neck." lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #22
Remember when Wilder didn't endorse Obama? FSogol Nov 2017 #25
Wilder endorsed, & campaigned aggressively, for Obama. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #26
In 2012, he called Obama a disappointment and went to a Romeny fundraiser. FSogol Nov 2017 #27

Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
5. It's because they are both prominent dems who seem to be insistent on shooting the party in the foot
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 12:54 AM
Nov 2017

at the moment.

Response to Salviati (Reply #5)

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
11. It brings back the 16 bitterness and will dampen voters enthusiasm for the Democrat since Donna
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 08:10 AM
Nov 2017

trashed Democrats and Hillary Clinton. Fuck Donna Brazile. If we lose Virginia it is on her. My cousin says she thinks Northam will win. she lives in Roanoke Virginia...and My cousin in Northern Virginia thinks so also. My Mom and Dad were in the Navy...Mom was from Virginia and that was our 'home place'. Two of my brothers were born there. Northern Virginia will make the difference and if Brazile's book dampened enthusiasm there, we are in trouble. Polls after the article in Politico came out showed Northam took a hit. But now that it is proven that Donna Brazile is a God damned liar and hopefully enough people have heard this so we should OK. And it is our opportunity to send a message to the GOP and Trump so I would think there will be enthusiasm on our side.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. The people of VA have a way of deciding for themselves what's important.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:05 PM
Nov 2017

They may not care. But they may. It certainly doesn't help.

brush

(53,776 posts)
7. And don't forget the dumb move by the DFA declaring no support for Northam.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 01:00 AM
Nov 2017

Hope Democratic governor Mcauliffe is on the phone to get these seemingly clueless Virginia Dems to understand that if they don't come together and back Northam the repugs get in.

It's not rocket science. What is up with the numbskulls?

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
12. I know and I have supported them for years...they are dead to me now...they sent me an text about
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 08:12 AM
Nov 2017

holding a function at my house...I texted back...How dare you help the GOP... by saying you don't endorse Northam which means you endorse Gillespie...so the answer is no. I also stopped their monthly stipend permanently.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
14. Obama is on the phones. I got a call from him yesterday supporting Northam, Fairfax, and Herring.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:00 AM
Nov 2017

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
16. Unrec: This story is just intended to bash Northam on the day before the election.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:03 AM
Nov 2017



Why even mention or report it? Wilder is under no obligation to endorse people. He's long retired.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. That's illogical. Concern for endorsement failures & attacks on Dem Party is not bashing Northam. nt
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:01 PM
Nov 2017

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
24. Endorsement failures? Does everyone endorse everyone? No, why bring it up?
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

Was it a big deal when Wilder refused to support Obama?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. Wilder endorsed, & campaigned aggressively, for Obama.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:11 PM
Nov 2017
RICHMOND, Va. — L. Douglas Wilder of Virginia, who made history as the nation's first elected black governor, is preparing to campaign aggressively for Barack Obama, and predicted in an interview that the charismatic young candidate could shatter the Republican Party's virtual lock on the South.

https://www.politico.com/story/2007/08/obama-supported-by-wilder-005518

Obama, as the incumbent, didn't need endorsements the second time around, of course.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
27. In 2012, he called Obama a disappointment and went to a Romeny fundraiser.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:15 PM
Nov 2017

Hardly a team player and nothing that should be used against Northam.

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