18 month old shot dead in a church.

[boston bean]

By a mad man with access to a military style assault rifle.

And this aint about the guns. ... right

Fuck!

[B2G]

5. All accounts I've seen indicate he was an atheist. nt

[Not Ruth]

6. By a white ex military man with access to a military style assault rifle (edit based on info)

[MineralMan]

8. And what accounts are those, I wonder.

How about linking to one of them that shows evidence of that? Can you do that, please? If not, you may be spreading false information.

[B2G]

10. Numerous statements made by his Facebook friends.

Would love to link to it, but his page is now down.

[MineralMan]

17. I see. Did you see those posts for yourself?

[JSK]

34. He liked a number of FB atheist pages

So he could hang out there and troll them.

[RhodeIslandOne]

9. Who taught bible study

Carry on, though.

[B2G]

11. Don't know the timeframe on that.

It could have been years ago, but from what I've read, it was not recent.

[FreeState]

30. Less than three years ago n/t

[AtheistCrusader]

13. Keep seeing then, because the accounts you saw appear to be from Alex Jones.

[B2G]

14. Actually, no.

Here's one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5053013/Devin-Kelley-outcast-preached-atheism.html

I don't think his religion, or lack of it, had anything to do with the shooting. I only mentioned his supposed atheist stance in response to Not Ruth's post about him being a Christian.

As I've stated in several other threads, I believe it was a domestic issue aimed at this ex mother in-law and her family. He has a history of abuse.

[AtheistCrusader]

15. Curious, since he also taught at a summer bible school.

Such schools are not noted for hiring atheists to preach.

Possible this guy was just all over the place.

[B2G]

19. Most likely.

He obviously wasn't stable.

[m-lekktor]

16. The Daily Fail is a UK right wing source. I wish people here at the DU would realize this. nt

[anneboleyn]

32. I agree. It's as bad as Info Wars. Total right wing nuttery and totally inappropriate for DU.

[LanternWaste]

18. I'm guessing some people may even believe that.

"I only mentioned his supposed atheist stance in response..."

I'm guessing some people may even believe that.

[MineralMan]

20. The Daily Mail is a sensationalist tabloid with right wing leanings

Uff da!

[B2G]

22. It has numerous quotes

from his friends. Friends who are on the record using their actual names.

Unlike so much of what gets posted using anonymous sources, which is readily believed if it fits your world view.

[anneboleyn]

31. We do not cite the hideous tabloid the Daily Mail here. It is a notorious right-wing rag that makes

up shit constantly. They are totally not believable and they are just as bad as citing info wars.

[anneboleyn]

33. Your sources are Alex Jones and the Daily Mail. Right wing nuttery at its finest.

[SoCalMusicLover]

2. Even A Fetus Would Not Change Gun Humpers

Might as well have been ALL children that died.

[Hoyt]

3. Like Sandy Hook. On the Saturday following the massacre of children, white wingers were lined up

to buy a rifle just like that used.

?uuid=oFFbGhewTs2I3suKuGJmSQ

[maxsolomon]

12. It's OK, though

they were scared.

[Hoyt]

24. LOL, you gotta feel for those guys. They have AR15s from every manufacturer but Bushmaster.

[boston bean]

4. A woman 5 months pregnant was also shot dead

[malaise]

7. A mad man who apparently went there to shoot his ex mother-in-law

One family lost eight persons. Who pays for eight funerals?

FUCK THE NRA

[bdamomma]

23. that is horrible

when this is assault from other Americans on other Americans going to end. Americans and their love affair for guns......

[Crunchy Frog]

25. America's brand of child sacrifice.

It's worth it for the freedumb.

[lame54]

27. He was in a church on Sunday...

Not exactly a "wrong place at the wrong time" scenario

We are we safe?

[SDJay]

29. Canada. Australia. Japan.

The UK. You know, places where people are generally adults in terms of how they govern. Places were data is actually relevant and the safety of citizens comes before profit.

I have a 5-year-old girl and twin 12-week-old boys. My wife is a dual US/Canadian citizen.

Last night was the first time I seriously said to her that I'm starting to wonder if this is the safest place to raise children. We live in San Diego County, by the way. She said the same thing.

Canada is starting to look a bit tempting, as there's no way the scum NRA/gun manufacturers that own these scum politicians will ever loosen their grip on them. People will just continue to die in large numbers and nothing will ever be done about it.

Freedumb indeed.

[LisaM]

28. By a guy who broke a baby's skull and only spent one year in prison.

Wrap yourself around that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/devin-patrick-kelley-texas.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article