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Every time I hear a nonsensical rant from the Evangelical Right on the Texas Massacre that took the lives of at least 26 people, I think it can get no worse. This one beats them all.
https://egbertowillies.com/2017/11/06/right-god-answer-prayers-texas-victims/
lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)That's pro-life, isn't it?
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)When we pray these words, we are certainly praying that God would deliver us from evil temporallythat is, in this earthly life. Through these words, we are asking God to send his holy angels to guard us from those who would seek to destroy us with knives and bombs and bullets. It may seem, on the surface, that God was refusing to give such protection to his Texan children. But we are also praying that God would deliver us from evil eternally. Through these same words, we are asking God to deliver us out of this evil world and into his heavenly glory, where no violence, persecution, cruelty, or hatred will ever afflict us again.
Words of wisdom from an imbecile named Hans Fiene, a Lutheran pastor. Okay, Hans, why don't you just put yourself in the line of fire so you too can be delivered from evil, permanently.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Won't say where but ....can't wait for plane out later this week. Thank you Egberto.
Yeah This > For those with little understanding of and less regard for the Christian faith, there may be no greater image of prayers futility than Christians being gunned down mid-supplication. But for those familiar with the Bibles promises concerning prayer and violence, nothing could be further from the truth. When those saints of First Baptist Church were murdered yesterday, God wasnt ignoring their prayers. He was answering them.
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)Sounds like he took stuff I heard as a child in church and twisted it so he could claim gun control would restrict God's acting for the good of His children.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Yes.
Bettie
(16,138 posts)they weren't saints...they were people attempting to live their lives
Second: No, they weren't praying to be murdered by a nut job.
GeorgeGist
(25,326 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Everything from suicide bombings, to Civil War-era frontal assaults directly into massed fire, to cults that commit mass suicide to move on.
Calculating
(2,957 posts)And say that concern regarding an afterlife has improved the behavior of many individuals throughout history. Religion has given people something 'bigger than themselves' to believe in, and helped to organize and shape society throughout the ages. Not everybody needs religion to give them purpose, but some people do and it can greatly improve their lives.
If it brings comfort to the victims of this church shooting then what's so terrible about it? Is it better to tell them "oh sorry, your loved ones are dead, there's no heaven, and they're just gonna feed the worms"?
VOX
(22,976 posts)It can give much comfort. Im in agreement with you there.
My issues with organized religion stem from the exclusivity each one claims. Were now, once again, involved in an endless conflict in the Middle East with clear religious overtones, a case of, whos god is better, stronger, truer: the Christian God of the West, or Allah?
And for too many, belief in an afterlife makes them terrible stewards of the planet, since, for them, its merely a way station, provided by God to consume. No need to conserve or worry about climate change, God will provide, and heal the Earth.
Most organized religion relegates women to second-class status.
Some believers practice a judgemental spiritual one-upmanship: Well, Im saved, but you can do what you want. NEVER QUESTION GODS WILL, or youll go to hell, unless you have Jesus, like I do.
Religion is often in conflict with science, as if the brains that were granted us should be used only for worshipping God the Father. My wife was once accused of worshipping Darwin by a good Christian.
Finally, evangelical Christianity in America has involved itself in the worldly arena of politics, and is decidedly conservative. This is where the greatest hypocrisy runs unfettered: As recorded, Jesus was a radical, a revolutionary, a bringer of change more akin to Gandhi and Martin Luther King than Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. But evangelicals predominantly support tRump, a genuinely hateful human being and pathological liar who has no moral underpinning, and who routinely insults and belittles weaker people. His thoughts and deeds are pretty far from what Jesus taught.
While religion can greatly improve their lives, believers can also wield their faith as a weapon, which theyve done for centuries.