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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:56 PM Nov 2017

My Take on Saudi

Maybe this is obvious to everyone, but here goes...

The king wants to consolidate power. Going after all the princes sort of makes sense, but it was taken a bit too far. After all, two are now dead. The round up of all the princes and these deaths leads me to believe this king does not shy away from using force. Now, we also know that Dotard made a multi-billion dollar arms deal with the king. Why? Ok, this is where I might get into conspiracy theory territory, but bear with me. Consolidation of power for Saudi means consolidation of power in the middle east. Saudi wants to be THE middle east power (this is not unheard of; Arab countries have been vying for top position in the middle east for decades). Dotard uses Kushner to align himself with the king, maybe promising backing, maybe promising more arms deals down the road. They take the arms deal with Dotard, and in exchange start threatening war with Yemen and Iran. Yes, there was a missile involved, so there is an excuse for a call to war. But it is very convenient that Dotard suffered a debacle early on in Yemen and that he detests the Iran nuclear deal Obama made. I am suggesting that whatever deal Dotard/Kushner has made with Saudi includes using them to (at least) threaten these two countries that have been a thorn in Dotard's side.

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My Take on Saudi (Original Post) ProudLib72 Nov 2017 OP
Two are dead? Do you have a link? applegrove Nov 2017 #1
2 dead...several links HipChick Nov 2017 #2
Thanks. applegrove Nov 2017 #4
Here you go... billh58 Nov 2017 #3
Thank you. applegrove Nov 2017 #5
The princes are fleeing and shooting Not Ruth Nov 2017 #6
Even if you believe they are just cleaning house ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #11
Saudi in charge? Iran is running things now that Russia McCamy Taylor Nov 2017 #7
It makes sense ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #8
He can't be trusted Twitler Nov 2017 #9
K&R HAB911 Nov 2017 #10
 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
6. The princes are fleeing and shooting
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:03 PM
Nov 2017

Obviously they expect to be executed. Saudis are pro death penalty. The crime is probably supporting terrorism.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
11. Even if you believe they are just cleaning house
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 02:38 PM
Nov 2017

you have to ask why now and how Dotard is mixed up in it. Remember, this was all happening last week WHILE Kushner was making trips over there. And then the war speech?

Hey, I thought of the terrorism complaint. Maybe they were trying to eliminate their ties to Wahhabism once and for all? But I keep coming back to our involvement in Yemen early this year, the Iran deal, and Kushner.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
7. Saudi in charge? Iran is running things now that Russia
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:16 PM
Nov 2017

controls the WH. Saudi Arabia is in political disarray---with bombers flying overhead and rumors of brother killing brother all over the news---- because that is what Tehran wants.

I am frankly baffled that the U.S. allies of Saudi Arabia and Israel are not doing more to stop the Iran-Russian take over of the Middle East. The Saudis and the Israelis have some very powerful friends in this country. Maybe they are hoping that Mueller will take out the trash and they won't have to show their hands.

I think China will determine the winner of the latest round of Middle East Three Dimensional Chess. What does China want more? A steady supply of Russian oil or an affluent U.S. middle class able to purchase its exports?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. It makes sense
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:29 PM
Nov 2017

Consider the three pillars of middle east policy. It seems to me when I was studying this in poli-sci class, the neo-cons were particularly aggressive, and this strikes me as carryover. The closest Arab ally we have is Saudi. I will admit that I am still considering the Saudi end game, but I completely understand why Dotard would align with the new king.

 

Twitler

(86 posts)
9. He can't be trusted
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 12:52 AM
Nov 2017

For all we know, he could be in talks for the Saudis to let Russia and China replace the Petrodollar with their currencies. China and Russia have been pushing that idea for like 10 years.

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