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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 03:37 PM Nov 2017

Cost of wind keeps dropping, and theres little coal, nuclear can do to stop it

Cost of wind keeps dropping, and there’s little coal, nuclear can do to stop it
An annual look at the costs of generating power.
MEGAN GEUSS - 11/6/2017, 12:08 PM


Though a lot has changed since 2016, not much has changed for energy economics in the US. The cost of wind generation continues to fall, solar costs are falling, too, and the cost of coal-power energy has seen no movement, while the cost of building and maintaining nuclear plants has gone up. And none of those conclusions reflect subsidies and tax credits applied by the federal government.

The conclusions come from Lazard (PDF), an asset management company that publishes cost estimates for various types of electricity-generation assets each year. Lazard’s numbers reflect the Levelized Cost of Energy (LCOE), which averages the estimated costs of construction, maintenance, and fuel for electricity-generating assets over the number of megawatt-hours that each asset is expected to produce over its lifetime. In other words, the LCOE is the lifetime cost of a turbine divided by the amount of energy that turbine will produce over its lifetime. LCOE is a good way of comparing electricity generation sources that vary dramatically in cost to build and cost to maintain.

The result, tracked over years, is one way of gauging how the US energy mix is changing and could change in the coming year. Though the new presidential administration was expected (and still is expected) to be a boon to coal and nuclear energy, those efforts are still mired in the political process. And even if they succeed, thwarting the cost advantages of wind and solar energy while propping up coal and nuclear power will require not-inconsiderable amounts of intervention from the US government.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/economics-working-against-coal-as-cost-of-wind-solar-power-drops/?comments=1
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Cost of wind keeps dropping, and theres little coal, nuclear can do to stop it (Original Post) workinclasszero Nov 2017 OP
You drive through SW PA . . . HughBeaumont Nov 2017 #1
Its insane workinclasszero Nov 2017 #2
Been the future for a while now zipplewrath Nov 2017 #3

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
1. You drive through SW PA . . .
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 03:45 PM
Nov 2017

. . . and their bitter clinging to the polluting coal/fossil fuel industry is evident and pitiable, from the cringeworthy billboards ("Wind dies, sun sets . . " ) to the refusal of free training in anticipation of a "coal comeback".

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. Its insane
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 03:51 PM
Nov 2017

But hey BLOTUS told them he would personally reverse market realities and make coal king again.

And they bought it, hook line and sinker.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
3. Been the future for a while now
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:39 PM
Nov 2017

I can remember when it became evident towards the beginning of the Obama administration that we had crossed over a price point. Wind and solar had become "competitive" with fossil fuels. And the trend was visible. Combined with environmental and safety issues, it was becoming obvious that we really shouldn't be wasting investments on legacy fuel systems. By the time they were built, they'd be too expensive and obsolete.

This is one situation where "markets" are speaking much louder than the politicians. And strangely, the politicians that preach the power of markets the most, are the ones that are paying the least attention.

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