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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:30 PM Nov 2017

The Glorious Anger of Hillary Voters, One Year Later

As recently as the morning of November 8, 2016, I believed, as I think many American women did, that if we only played by the rules, we could rise to the highest positions of power.

There were still a lot of rules for women, of course. Anyone could see that. The rules became more rigid the more power you wanted. You couldn’t smile too little, or too much. Your voice could not be too high, lest you seem shrill. It couldn’t be too husky lest you seem masculine. You could not be overweight, or, for that matter, pretty in a way that was too obvious. Your hair… well, your hair and makeup would need to be done each day, or people would say you looked sick, and that would take hours. You needed to never appear angry, or, in the least, inconvenienced.

We were so sure that we could play by the rules and win.

I watched as millions of women excitedly gathered in secret groups to support Hillary Clinton’s candidacy. There they talked about what an exciting moment in history this was. They did not venture out because their husbands might not like their vote, or Bernie voters might yell at them, or someone at their work might not like it. We saw at the time, I think, no contradiction in being posed on the edge of ultimate victory for womankind and also secreting ourselves away to make ourselves completely unobjectionable. We were always supposed to be unobjectionable.


On November 9, we woke up, and Donald Trump had been elected.

It became clear that you can be the most qualified woman and still lose to the least qualified man.

That was like a spell being broken. All across the land, women woke up and realized we were never going to get where we wanted to go by playing by the rules. Even if you walked the tightrope of acceptable feminine behavior perfectly, even if you managed to sidestep every trap laid for women, you would still never to get to the top. The bar for men was so low they could slither right over it.

......................

I think of all those young male Trump voters who claimed they wanted to vote for Trump because they wanted a revolution. They got one. It’s coming from women.

If you listen carefully, you can almost hear millions of women screaming. It sounds fine. It sounds like the world changing.

I’m hopeful again.


http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a13446570/hillary-clinton-voters-one-year-later/
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The Glorious Anger of Hillary Voters, One Year Later (Original Post) ehrnst Nov 2017 OP
That's right MFM008 Nov 2017 #1
How is this not at the top of the greatest page yet? Kber Nov 2017 #2
Thank you. ehrnst Nov 2017 #4
K&R Fresh_Start Nov 2017 #3
K&R ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #5
Kick, Kickety kick!!!! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #6
That was the first thing I said to my friend on election night frazzled Nov 2017 #7
Tracy Chapman: VermontKevin Nov 2017 #8
I love Tracy Chapman. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #9
I wish I could rec this 1000 times. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #10
We still have a lot to do so stay strong, healthy, and loud! BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #11
Strong and healthy for ourselves. Kber Nov 2017 #19
"It became clear that you can be the most qualified woman and still lose to the least qualified man" iluvtennis Nov 2017 #12
+1 dalton99a Nov 2017 #25
K&R brer cat Nov 2017 #13
She's more than the most qualified woman. EllieBC Nov 2017 #14
Love the title -- yes, this is it. The GLORIOUS and RIGHTEOUS anger of the Hillary voters. Tatiana Nov 2017 #15
K & R! Lifelong Protester Nov 2017 #16
I will never not be angry about it. NEVER. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #17
Indeed!! Wonderful to see. K & R nt Persondem Nov 2017 #18
I will never not be angry leftofcool Nov 2017 #20
"you can be the most qualified woman and still lose to the least qualified man" L. Coyote Nov 2017 #21
never let go. Still feel like heads should roll, t(R)ump et all in jail & Clinton given Presidency. Sunlei Nov 2017 #22
Trump used illegal Russian Propaganda efforts to win, UCmeNdc Nov 2017 #23
Terrific OP ehrnst! radical noodle Nov 2017 #24
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and REC this heartily Maven Nov 2017 #26
K&R. Thank you, ehrnst. A year after that horrific night, and I haven't gotten over it lunamagica Nov 2017 #27
K&R treestar Nov 2017 #28
k and r with thanks!! niyad Nov 2017 #29
K & R L. Coyote Nov 2017 #30
Mrs. Aristus, the erstwhile conservative Republican, is still in a deep depressed daze Aristus Nov 2017 #31
for your tigress: niyad Nov 2017 #34
I love this part: niyad Nov 2017 #32
"the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house"--Audre Lord. niyad Nov 2017 #33
This not-so-young white male voted for Hillary lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #35
To those who voted for Trump because he would "shake things up", Mr.Bill Nov 2017 #36
I agree, however, I am stunned by the number of white middle aged women who viscerally hate Hillary. Pepsidog Nov 2017 #37
Across continents misogynists strove to cheat this superior woman--using the bum hiding in London! ancianita Nov 2017 #38

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
1. That's right
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:34 PM
Nov 2017

The most qualified woman lost to a fat dried up crazy piece of horse shit.
And most of us are still smoking- smoldering white hot solar pissed about it.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
3. K&R
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:46 PM
Nov 2017

Just because we don't go around wearing 'you can grab my pussy anything' T-shirts...does not mean we weren't enthusiastic.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. That was the first thing I said to my friend on election night
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:00 PM
Nov 2017

When it became clear that all was lost. We were in shock, and I turned to her and said, ”How many times have you lost a job to a male who was far less qualified than you?” Through tears, she lifted at least seven fingers.

iluvtennis

(19,852 posts)
12. "It became clear that you can be the most qualified woman and still lose to the least qualified man"
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:41 PM
Nov 2017

Now that the truth. Shouldn't be in this day and age in America, but it is. I'm so disgusted.

EllieBC

(3,014 posts)
14. She's more than the most qualified woman.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:50 PM
Nov 2017

She was arguably the most qualified candidate ever. However the Bros, the Trumpanzees, and even women who think they need a man to lead them couldn't see to vote for her because she's a woman.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
15. Love the title -- yes, this is it. The GLORIOUS and RIGHTEOUS anger of the Hillary voters.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:54 PM
Nov 2017

I will get my chance to throw out our Rethug governor here in Illinois and I want to sweep out all of the Rethugs who dared to elect such an ignorant, entitled, sexual predator.

I can't wait. And I know many people like myself who are waiting for the chance to show the racist, sexist, self-hating morons what they're really afraid of.

Mark my words, 2018 will be the Year of the Woman.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
21. "you can be the most qualified woman and still lose to the least qualified man"
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 10:33 PM
Nov 2017
Especially when they cheat and bend all the rules in their favor......

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. never let go. Still feel like heads should roll, t(R)ump et all in jail & Clinton given Presidency.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 10:50 PM
Nov 2017

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
23. Trump used illegal Russian Propaganda efforts to win,
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:23 PM
Nov 2017

Trump,McConnell,and Ryann met at the GOP convention and agreed to Russian help from a Russian spy master to help tilt the US voters toward voting for Trump,

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
24. Terrific OP ehrnst!
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 12:05 AM
Nov 2017

I remember going to bed election night sick at heart and waking up the next morning mad as hell. I am still as angry as I've ever been about anything in my life. At first, I was ready to give up. I wanted no part of people who were so stupid as to vote against Hillary. Like others here, I will never get over it, but I will fight back. Hillary leads the way. If you're knocked down, get back up. Keep working for what we know is right.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
31. Mrs. Aristus, the erstwhile conservative Republican, is still in a deep depressed daze
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:02 PM
Nov 2017

over the election results, one year later. She was never Hillary's biggest fan to start with, but her admiration and respect for HRC grew and grew throughout the campaign, concurrent with her increasing loathing and revulsion for Trump.

The day after, she wasn't able to go in to work, she was so shattered. I went in, only to have to beg off before I had even seen my first patient. I knew I wasn't going to be able to make it through the day. I went home to Mrs. Aristus, and we spent the rest of that day consoling each other and trying to make sense of it all.

We voted in our local elections here in Washington (nothing of national consequence) on Tuesday, and she is still adamant that she will never vote for another Republican in her life. She keeps hoping that some obscure technicality will put HRC in her rightful place in the White House. But she is counting on engagement and voting to help right the awful wrong our country has suffered.

I call Mrs. Aristus my tigress; she makes a formidable enemy. Well, Republicans, you've got yourselves an enemy you should be afraid of. Grow some eyes in the back of your empty heads. Your day is coming. Mrs. Aristus will see to that...

niyad

(113,279 posts)
32. I love this part:
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:03 PM
Nov 2017

. . . .

If not being able to do precisely what they want precisely when they want is uncomfortable for them, well, they’ve been making us uncomfortable for generations. We’ve learned to make ourselves small and inoffensive so as not to upset them. Let them at least learn not to grab us without consent. Let them learn that we’re not to be raped. Let them learn that there are consequences to hurting women, because all this time, though we’ve been quiet, we’ve been people too.

Some men don’t like that. I think I can speak for a great many women when I say, “we don’t care if you like it.” We've put up with a thousand rules imposed on women since the beginning of time.

Our centuries of polite silence may be coming to an end.

. . . . .

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. This not-so-young white male voted for Hillary
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:09 PM
Nov 2017

and all other Dems for the past 36 years. We aren't all misogynist racist pigs, and I am ashamed of those who are.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
37. I agree, however, I am stunned by the number of white middle aged women who viscerally hate Hillary.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:07 PM
Nov 2017

Looking at Trump campaign for events and Trump supporters now, I am stunned by the animus of white middle aged women who hate Hillary. I guess they are just as susceptible to right wing propaganda as the white men.

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
38. Across continents misogynists strove to cheat this superior woman--using the bum hiding in London!
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:24 PM
Nov 2017

Women didn't just "wake up." Women were never asleep.

They knew about the war against women.

They just believed men would play by their own rules.

They didn't expect them to be the cheating, lying jackals they were.

And their current media attackers are no better.

To drag out this public abuse is the height of pathological fascism.

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