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7 new sealed indictments filed in DC on Nov 8 alone (Original Post) wt1531 Nov 2017 OP
Here's hoping and praying triron Nov 2017 #1
Wittes comment greeny2323 Nov 2017 #2
+1. Wittes is very solid emulatorloo Nov 2017 #3
Signed, sealed, delivered Xipe Totec Nov 2017 #4
Because I know so little about how these things work, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #5
They can stay sealed forever. Sometimes they aren't even pursued. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #7
So the fact that they are sealed does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #8
The fact that they are sealed should give you warm and fuzzy feelings of hope. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #10
My fear is that for some reason they are never unsealed. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #11
And the wingnuts are tweeting it is Hillary and Podesta. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #6
Its something like 1 out of 3 are sealed Nevernose Nov 2017 #9
 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
2. Wittes comment
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:48 PM
Nov 2017

Benjamin Wittes commented on this:




"A few other words of caution: sealed indictments are not uncommon and the U.S. attorney's office in DC does many complex cases. Mueller is not the only active prosecutor working in that courthouse. I'm not saying nothing is cooking, but don't read too much into docket numbers."

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
5. Because I know so little about how these things work,
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 12:13 AM
Nov 2017

the phrase "sealed indictments" makes me uneasy.

Might they stay sealed forever? Are indictments necessarily the precursor to arrest?

I keep on flashing back to "unindicted co-conspirator" in Watergate. Those of you who do not know what that refers to, look it up. You'll learn a lot.

Which leads to: I'm concerned that this President may wind up as an "unindicted co-conspirator" and likewise escape all punishment.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. They can stay sealed forever. Sometimes they aren't even pursued.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:16 AM
Nov 2017

Typically, they are sealed so the indicted person is not aware of their impending arrest and/or because knowledge of the indictment may interfere with pursuit of justice. That can mean the ability to bring charges against others being investigated. If you find out your fellow criminals are about to be arrested, you might run, go quiet, stop talking on the phone, quit conspiring via e-mail, etc. prosecutors try not to make their own work more difficult by keeping a lid on a lot of information.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
8. So the fact that they are sealed does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:26 AM
Nov 2017

I fear that these indictments may prove meaningless unless unsealed and delivered.

But again, I know that I know very little about these things.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
10. The fact that they are sealed should give you warm and fuzzy feelings of hope.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:44 AM
Nov 2017

It can mean that even more indictments are coming, and it certainly means that more people are subject to arrest now.

Indictments are people charged with crimes.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
11. My fear is that for some reason they are never unsealed.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:27 AM
Nov 2017

I remember "Fitzmas" all too well. Our hopes were high, then nothing.

I do hope I'm wrong, but I, who am normally an incorrigible optimist, am feeling very pessimistic right now.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
6. And the wingnuts are tweeting it is Hillary and Podesta.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:12 AM
Nov 2017

I guess getting hacked is the crime of the century.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. Its something like 1 out of 3 are sealed
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:30 AM
Nov 2017

So it may Be Ivanka and Jared, or it might be three bodega owners conspiring to avoid cigarette taxes. We’ll find out eventually.

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