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My Senators co-sponsored the Assault Weapons Ban bill...did yours? (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2017 OP
Fuck no! Glamrock Nov 2017 #1
Just what am I supposed to do about Cruz and Cornyn? LeftInTX Nov 2017 #2
I got Shelby and Strange. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #46
Yes: Murray. fierywoman Nov 2017 #3
Wonder why MFM008 Nov 2017 #38
No idea. I think I read something about how they'd've had many more sponsors if fierywoman Nov 2017 #48
I am lucky, both of mine did.. Stuart G Nov 2017 #4
Yes, they both did! Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #5
Both of my Illinois senators are in there. murielm99 Nov 2017 #6
As I would expect. We have two great senators! justhanginon Nov 2017 #54
It is worth reminding people murielm99 Nov 2017 #55
Nope ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #7
One, DiFi was a no show.. n/t denbot Nov 2017 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author sakabatou Nov 2017 #9
She is running. denbot Nov 2017 #11
I would not and there is a 'challanger' who is now dead to me as is those organizations Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #17
She is the first name listed. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #33
Feinstein was the first name listed brooklynite Nov 2017 #12
LOL! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #22
Missed it. denbot Nov 2017 #45
She is literally the FIRST SENATOR NAMED. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #32
Did you try to summon her with candles and gospel music? MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #42
Both of my Senators sponsored it. OliverQ Nov 2017 #10
LOL, Unresponsive senator HAB911 Nov 2017 #13
Thank you, Sen. Casey meow2u3 Nov 2017 #14
You mean Dianne Feinstein...that senior Democrat that the left left has decided to primary... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #15
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #20
You want the bill to fail? Wow just wow...well a newbie doesn't have the clout...but Dianne will Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #24
Without even checking I can say Bettie Nov 2017 #16
Johnny Isakson and David Perdue of Georgia Hortensis Nov 2017 #18
Well - that seals the deal. No new gun control in 2017 aikoaiko Nov 2017 #19
There needs to be a ban on automatic weapons, bump stocks and high capacity magazines period. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #25
Automatic weapons are basically banned ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #39
Two bullets. Two shotgun shells. hunter Nov 2017 #41
Ok ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #52
All of the above were used in recent mass murders... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #43
I wonder how badly this will hurt us in the 2018 elections Lurks Often Nov 2017 #26
In VA the divide was 48 to 48 so some should rethink this. Because maybe not this time but next Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #44
Good ideas and Popular Ideas are two wholly different concepts. This should elude you no longer LanternWaste Nov 2017 #56
Joni Ernst and Chuck Grassley? Of course the fuck not! bullwinkle428 Nov 2017 #21
Yes! But only one. Cardin, where are you? mamas Nov 2017 #23
Yes both of them -IL lunasun Nov 2017 #27
Without checking I can say Hell No they didn't Dem_4_Life Nov 2017 #28
Image in OP doesn't list Sen. Sanders as a co-sponsor, but Congress.gov does: sl8 Nov 2017 #29
None from Virginia ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #40
Yes. Both Of Them ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #30
Links: sl8 Nov 2017 #31
This is just gonna hurt dems and accomplish nothing Calculating Nov 2017 #34
exactly Lurker Deluxe Nov 2017 #36
You don't have to ban all semiautomatics Kaleva Nov 2017 #51
mine have crazycatlady Nov 2017 #35
Yes, Both Warren and Markey. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #37
Yep - gotta wonder how many are flying off the shelves now!? jmg257 Nov 2017 #47
Neither and both are Dems Kaleva Nov 2017 #49
Something like this could stall out gains in 2018 DVRacer Nov 2017 #50
Yep ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #53

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
2. Just what am I supposed to do about Cruz and Cornyn?
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:16 AM
Nov 2017

Are you trying to make me feel bad?
Do you know how often I have been to see those clowns?
Do you know that I'm not going to vote for them?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
46. I got Shelby and Strange.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:30 PM
Nov 2017

Some people don't understand a lot of us are LIVING the Democratic underground!

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
48. No idea. I think I read something about how they'd've had many more sponsors if
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:43 PM
Nov 2017

they'd've put the call out.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
55. It is worth reminding people
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017

that Tammy is military. She is a wounded veteran, and she knows about firearms and combat. She understands, better than most people, what guns can do.

I live in the country. We have guns. I am not in favor of taking everyone's guns, but FFS! We need to control this rage and carnage.

Response to denbot (Reply #8)

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
17. I would not and there is a 'challanger' who is now dead to me as is those organizations
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:05 AM
Nov 2017

who are supporting this ill advised challenge. In the age of Trump spend money to turn GOP seats blue...leave Democrats alone...the Senate is tough this year and we don't need this shit.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
45. Missed it.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:27 PM
Nov 2017

I went down the list, and found Carmella’s name, but no other grouped next to it. My bad.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
42. Did you try to summon her with candles and gospel music?
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 12:32 PM
Nov 2017

She may have been a no show for you, but she is the one who introduced the bill. Did you read her statement in the OP?

HAB911

(8,890 posts)
13. LOL, Unresponsive senator
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:57 AM
Nov 2017

Letter to the editor today Re: Marco Rubio

Recently, I called the toll-free telephone number provided on Sen. Marco Rubio’s website for constituents in the Tampa Bay area since he does not have an office here. The phone rang and rang — no voicemail came on, let alone a real person. I wanted to ask the senator to take action to prevent the sale of military-style weapons in light of the mass murder at the Baptist church in Texas. I wonder why I am even wasting my time. Our senator is not interested in my opinion. I am not a member of the wealthy donor class that he and far too many of politicians bow down to.

SH, Land O'Lakes FL

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
14. Thank you, Sen. Casey
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:58 AM
Nov 2017

for cosponsoring the ban on combat weapons on our streets.



Thanks for nothing but more bloodbaths, Sen. Toomey.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
15. You mean Dianne Feinstein...that senior Democrat that the left left has decided to primary...
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:03 AM
Nov 2017

imagine that...I wonder if a newbie could do this...doubtful...guess experience has it's pluses. Here is hoping the 'primary' challenger sinks into oblivion after the primary.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #15)

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
24. You want the bill to fail? Wow just wow...well a newbie doesn't have the clout...but Dianne will
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:54 AM
Nov 2017

win easily...just such a waste of time and resources...I have noted all organizations involved in primaries or those who screwed Democrats and...they get nothing...those they run will never get my vote for any job either.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Johnny Isakson and David Perdue of Georgia
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:10 AM
Nov 2017

Isakson: "I firmly believe that we do not need more gun control in America; rather we need more criminal control. Therefore, I support instant background checks on all retail sales of guns to prevent convicted felons from obtaining them, but I do not support waiting periods or the registration of any firearm."

Perdue's a weasel who repeatedly makes Isakson seem as if he'd be honest with voters if only he could be. (No Republican today can, of course.) No statement about gun control ("Second Amendment&quot on Perdue's site, big "no" to the OP here. He and Isakson both voted to cancel Obama's rule requiring the Soc Sec Admin to report recipients of mental health disability benefits to the FBI for background checks. And that's an extremist position, no matter how many Repubs voted for it.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
19. Well - that seals the deal. No new gun control in 2017
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:34 AM
Nov 2017


As long as Democrats push gun bans, there will never be compromise.

Sometimes I don't think the Democratic legislators have been paying attention to every failed gun control legislation since 1994.

Regardless I'm against useless AWBs that only serve to make Democratic gun restrictionists feel good, rile up the RKBA crowd, and not do much to stop or reduce mass shootings.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
25. There needs to be a ban on automatic weapons, bump stocks and high capacity magazines period.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:55 AM
Nov 2017

No individual should have those things.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
39. Automatic weapons are basically banned
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:52 AM
Nov 2017

And are almost never used in a crime. Bump stock bans are probably doable but may not make much difference. High capacity magazine bans seem arbitrary to me - what capacity is ok and what is too many?

hunter

(38,311 posts)
41. Two bullets. Two shotgun shells.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 12:28 PM
Nov 2017

With a reload that requires some manual dexterity.

Nope, not even your favorite revolver.

Melt it down:



That's my answer.

Gun fetishes are disgusting.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
52. Ok
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:13 PM
Nov 2017

Disagree, and would actively oppose any such measures. I’d propose a 15 round limit for handguns and 30 for semiautomatic rifles

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
43. All of the above were used in recent mass murders...
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:01 PM
Nov 2017

No need for individuals to have high capacity magazines...no idea what it should be... but not what it is now.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
26. I wonder how badly this will hurt us in the 2018 elections
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:57 AM
Nov 2017

Among the states that have voters that likely would be considered against gun control are FL, ME, IN, MO, MT, ND, OH, PA, WV & WI, all of which have Democrats up for reelection in Senate races next year.

The bill is going nowhere in the Senate and I would be extremely surprised if at least some of the current Democratic Senators from the above seats refuse to vote for the AWB bill being pushed by Senators that don't have to worry about losing their seat next year.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
44. In VA the divide was 48 to 48 so some should rethink this. Because maybe not this time but next
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:02 PM
Nov 2017

a pro-regulation candidate might just take them out in a primary.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. Good ideas and Popular Ideas are two wholly different concepts. This should elude you no longer
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:00 PM
Nov 2017

Good ideas are rarely popular ideas.

Hence, Pet Rocks, Mood Rings and the biased, unsupported and inaccurate sentiment of "...serve to make Democratic gun restrictions feel good" when one's sacred cow (or tin god-- your choice) is being discussed.

Good ideas and Popular Ideas are two wholly different concepts. This should elude you no longer, as it so often has in past posts or yours.

Good luck!

sl8

(13,757 posts)
29. Image in OP doesn't list Sen. Sanders as a co-sponsor, but Congress.gov does:
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:19 AM
Nov 2017

From https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2095/cosponsors?q=%7B"search"%3A%5B"Assault+weapons"%5D%7D&r=1 :

Cosponsor Date Cosponsored

Sen. Blumenthal, Richard [D-CT]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Murphy, Christopher [D-CT]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Schumer, Charles E. [D-NY]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Durbin, Richard J. [D-IL]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Murray, Patty [D-WA]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Reed, Jack [D-RI]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Carper, Thomas R. [D-DE]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Menendez, Robert [D-NJ]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Cardin, Benjamin L. [D-MD]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Whitehouse, Sheldon [D-RI]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [D-NY]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Franken, Al [D-MN]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Schatz, Brian [D-HI]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Hirono, Mazie K. [D-HI]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Warren, Elizabeth [D-MA]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Markey, Edward J. [D-MA]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Booker, Cory A. [D-NJ]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Van Hollen, Chris [D-MD]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Duckworth, Tammy [D-IL]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Harris, Kamala D. [D-CA]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Casey, Robert P., Jr. [D-PA]* 11/08/2017
Sen. Sanders, Bernard [I-VT]* 11/08/2017

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
34. This is just gonna hurt dems and accomplish nothing
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:37 AM
Nov 2017

AWB's are mostly an empty feel-good solution. Unless you take it a step further and ban ALL semi-autos it won't matter. The next shooter would just use a semi-auto like the M1a or Mini14 without those 'scary' assault weapon features like pistol grips and cause just as much carnage. How about fixing the problems with the background check system which allowed the church shooter to buy his gun to begin with. That guy should NOT have been able to buy a gun, and probably shouldn't have even been out with the population. Should have gotten a good prison term after beating up his baby.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,036 posts)
36. exactly
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:28 AM
Nov 2017

I was reading the bill and it exempts, specifically, the Ruger mini 14.

APPENDIX A—FIREARMS EXEMPTED BY THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN OF 2017

‘‘Ruger Mini-14 (w/o folding or telescoping
18 stock or pistol grip)

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/models.html

THEIR SHORT BARRELS AND OVERALL SHORT LENGTH MAKE THEM FAVORITES IN ANY APPLICATION WHERE MANEUVERABILITY AND EASE OF HANDLING ARE PRIORITIES.

But .. specifically bans the Ruger SR-556

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr556TD/models.html

The difference between these two weapons is cosmetic, at best ... the mini is the better weapon. Both can be chambered in the same caliber, and with a few $100s in adds will look very similar. Why is the mini not as popular as the SR-556? Cost. So this bill pretty much says you can still kill the fuck out of people, you will just have to spend about $400 more to do it.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
51. You don't have to ban all semiautomatics
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:53 PM
Nov 2017

Semiautomatic rifles and carbines that fire pistol rounds and intermediate cartridges are what bad guys favor

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
37. Yes, Both Warren and Markey.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:31 AM
Nov 2017

MA is serious about this. Just passed a law outlawing bump stocks and even our Republican governor signed it.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
50. Something like this could stall out gains in 2018
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:49 PM
Nov 2017

I sit here in Oklahoma where we have made gains flipping state districts blue. Something like this will bring division we don’t need. Also it has the added benefit of not really accomplishing anything significant. We are a few weeks away from deer rifle season and many people here use AR15 style rifles for that. I know I use an AR10 a more powerful variation myself. My previous weapon was a Remington 7400 chambered in .308 and other than the stock functioned identically yet one is more comfortable but “scary looking” I also have used a M1 again works the same but the only difference is appearance.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
53. Yep
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017

Almost certainly won’t pass and not at all popular in states we need to win/hold
like Missouri and North Dakota. I can already see the ads attacking politicians like McCaskill and Heitkamp for wanting to take your guns, even if they aren’t sponsors of the bill.

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