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orangecrush

(19,554 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:01 PM Nov 2017

"I think that there is an 80 percent chance hes going to push that nuclear button"


"The Duty to Warn political advocacy group is deeply alarmed by Donald Trump's behavior -- almost pathological and continual lying, detachment from reality, mood swings, violent behavior, extreme narcissism, bullying and boasts about committing sexual assault — and what it suggests about his mental health.

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How do Trump's moods impact his ability to be a responsible leader? Why are Trump's voters so attracted to his violent, ignorant and crass behavior? How does Trump's malignant narcissism increase the likelihood that he could initiate a conventional, or perhaps even, a nuclear war? In what ways is Donald Trump and his administration damaging the mental health of the American people?
In an effort to answer these questions, I recently spoke with Gartner. He is a former assistant professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University Medical School and also a contributing writer to the new book "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President."

In our conversation, Gartner explains his worries about how Donald Trump's moods and temperament may actually spark a war.
"I don’t think people have any idea how close we are the point of no return," he told me. "I think that there is an 80 percent chance he’s going to push that nuclear button. Why? Number one, Trump is a malignant narcissist. As far as I know, I cannot recall a single malignant narcissist in history who did not start a major war."

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/18/psychologist-john-gartner-why-the-mueller-probe-makes-trump-dangerous/
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"I think that there is an 80 percent chance hes going to push that nuclear button" (Original Post) orangecrush Nov 2017 OP
...an 80 percent chance.... VOX Nov 2017 #1
Her emails! orangecrush Nov 2017 #2
I hear her war plans were in those emails. Control-Z Nov 2017 #3
Good point! Where have those evil emails gone? VOX Nov 2017 #8
Those emails were an affront to every patriotic, flag-waving American!!1! VOX Nov 2017 #5
... orangecrush Nov 2017 #6
I still haven't forgiven the old friend who told me "Rodham Clinton" was a warmonger... Hekate Nov 2017 #9
The over-the-edge left's as bad as the right for self deception. Hortensis Nov 2017 #10
This! orangecrush Nov 2017 #12
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #15
We was had orangecrush Nov 2017 #13
scary blimablam Nov 2017 #4
Good read orangecrush Nov 2017 #7
Ah, but it would still take those in command of the nuclear arsenal to act upon that order. tonyt53 Nov 2017 #11
There was a big hearing on this orangecrush Nov 2017 #14

VOX

(22,976 posts)
1. ...an 80 percent chance....
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:09 PM
Nov 2017

Good thing Hillary ain’t the prez, or that chance would have been 100%. Plus, emails and BENNNNNGHAZZZZI!!1!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. Good point! Where have those evil emails gone?
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:59 PM
Nov 2017

They could be in Norway, for all we know. Talk about flirting with "nuke-u-lar" [sic] warfare!1!!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
5. Those emails were an affront to every patriotic, flag-waving American!!1!
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:55 PM
Nov 2017

She should be in prison for all her...emailing with those emails! It's a slippery slope, when someone from the Democrat [sic] Party starts emailing. Anything could happen!1! Do we, as red-blooded Americans, want illegal immigrants to start using email? GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
9. I still haven't forgiven the old friend who told me "Rodham Clinton" was a warmonger...
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 09:12 PM
Nov 2017

...who "knows where the levers of power are." This was mid-October 2016. My old friend from the Left was absolutely sure HRC would start a war, because reasons.

And here we are.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. The over-the-edge left's as bad as the right for self deception.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 09:22 PM
Nov 2017

Speaking of, this guy might be able to predict "80%" for a properly representative group under specified conditions, but not for one specific person. Very scary subject, but... for the figure.

NK's generals don't need a book, though, with Trump threatening fire and fury. I'm also afraid of a preemptive occult cyber attack on our grid or an EMG attack that couldn't be reliably traced back. Kim's the ruthlessly murderous strong man Trump wishes he were.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
11. Ah, but it would still take those in command of the nuclear arsenal to act upon that order.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 10:11 PM
Nov 2017

It really isn't as simple as one person pushing a button. I highly doubt that those in command of that arsenal, would follow that order without an absolute reason more than trump's feelings getting hurt.

orangecrush

(19,554 posts)
14. There was a big hearing on this
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:11 AM
Nov 2017

And, iirc, they concluded that no one really knows what would happen.

Crazy?

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