Is Leeann Tweeden taking one for the team

[njhoneybadger]

Knowing that these pictures would come out. See Sexual harassment victims of republicans can't be believed

[rzemanfl]

1. I think Hannity, et al, conned her. You may be right though. I think

Franken almost immediately asking for an ethics investigation threw her for a loop. Time will tell. IMO a lot more about Leeann will come out than stuff about Al.

[Dawson Leery]

2. She doesn't want the investigation.

Telling.

[Cicada]

5. I think she just understands its not the crime of the century

She said she accepts his apology, assuming there aren’t other women, and that she does not think this warrants his resignation. I take her at face value, that this stuff pissed her off, but that it doesn’t warrant the death penalty. I have no beef about this lady. I think Al Franken is super duper great and has apologized for boorish behavior and that’s that.

No need to trash this conservative nut lady imo.

[rzemanfl]

11. "conservative nut lady" LMAO. n/t

[brush]

12. I take it you haven't seen the photos of her groping the guitarist and dry humping Robin Williams?

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She's full of shit and participated in a right wing hit job on Al Franken.

[Cicada]

17. Flirting with sexy guys doesnt make a kiss from a toad wanted

She’s hot, guitarist is hot, women swooned for Robin. Hot people enjoy sexy stuff with each other. That does not mean we toads will be welcomed doing the same things with them. I don’t see how her sexual behavior with those who welcome it converts sex related acts by Franken into the realm of acceptable. I think Franken is wonderful. Not everyone shares my view of him. And I find this lady horrible because of her political views. But I don’t see how your examples make her phony.

[Cicada]

19. Just saw video rather than photo, maybe Im wrong

Maybe she is being insincere

[bagelsforbreakfast]

27. So now you're looks-shaming Franken? n/m

[brush]

38. She submitted a photo as evidence of groping but he's not touching her in the photo

Come on, as progressives we need to do some critical thinking here.

If she lied with the photo maybe what she said about the kiss is exaggerated or maybe not true also.

He said he remembers the rehearsal kiss differently then asked for an investigation of himself.

Her tone changed immediately after that and she quickly accepted his apology, said he was a good senator and that an investigation wasn't necessary.

Why did she not want and investigation and he did? IMO it's because Senator Franken knew these other photos and videos of her shenanigans of groping and dry humping men would come out also.

Critical thinking pls. It's so obvious that Tweeden played along with Roger Stone and Hannity to put together this hit job on Franken to take the heat off Moore, a real sexual abuser/pedophile.

[angstlessk]

39. You must think Melania is either blind..

stupid or just an opportunist? I would kiss the f**k out of Franken rather than just smell the breath of trump!

[JI7]

15. none of them are "crimes of the century" . but it's a thing that happens so if she cares so much as

she claims she should support the enquiry .

[Cicada]

18. I dont think she cares so much that she wants an enquiry

I don’t want an enquery either. It’s too trivial.

[JI7]

20. sexual harassment is not trivial at all. the fact she doesn't want an enquiry

says a lot to me. even just to prevent and teach men it would be worth it.

[Cicada]

21. I think there is a range from mild to severe

I view this case as mild. Franken was not a threat to pursue this, he had no power over her, there wasn’t any significant power discrepancy, performers are used to kissing performances. The world is not black or white. It has shades of grey. You can get a light meter and walk around and see that that is true. Weinstein was black as black, Franken is only mildly grey.

That seems obvious to me. I am really surprised that so many people seem to disagree with me about this. To say Franken and Weinstein are pretty close to similar strikes me as super nutty.

[Madam45for2923]

31. I agree with you on this.

[GoCubsGo]

6. They were thrown for a loop because they expected him to respond the way they would have.

They expected him to deny, lie, victim shame, etc. Just like Trump, Moore, O'Reilly, Ailes, and a host of others did under comparable circumstances. None of them would ever consider apologizing or asking that they be investigated by an ethics committee if they were accused of wrongdoing, so I don't think any of them are capable of imagining that someone else might do that.

I agree more will come out about Tweeden, as well. I don't think she was conned, however. She was the one in possession of that photo. That tells me she instigated the whole affair.

[rzemanfl]

9. Yes, but Hannity knew about the picture for years. n/t

[GoCubsGo]

24. Yeah, but I still don't think she was conned into this.

She has been around the FOX "News" crowd for eons, and she's not naive. Hannity may have known about the photo for years, but I'm sure she had no problem reminding him of it, either.

[rzemanfl]

25. We'll see if she ends up being a spokesslut on Faux or not. She doesn't seem the type

to take one for the team out of team spirit.

[Madam45for2923]

32. Part of me thinks Hannity lied about that. He is trying to be a contemporaneous witness.

Because he sees how that gives credence to the victims stories.

[rzemanfl]

34. Leeann's husband/boyfriend would be useful as a "contemporaneous witness."

Hannity isn't a credible contemporaneous witness to sunrise.

[Madam45for2923]

35. I think Hannity thought he was being clever.

[rzemanfl]

36. He was born thinking he was clever. n/t

[Heather MC]

7. They figure that everyone is as corrupt as they are they had no idea Al Franken

Was actually a true man of integrity. Furthermore I'm pretty sure senator Franken knew the truth would come out if he calls for an Ethics investigation. See that way Senator Franken have to defend himself in the media. And get caught in a game of he said she said.

Al Franken was playing chess these idiots were playing checkers. Checkmate

[njhoneybadger]

8. My point is republicans will use her as an example women can't be believed

[rzemanfl]

10. There is some political risk in that. Time will tell. n/t

[JI7]

13. i don't think it was a total con, she is a birther. but they probably manipulated her

thinking it would help her and didn't really think of people actually looking into it.

and of course franken's response to it.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Mentioned this Yesterday,

Al has set these fools up for some serious legal challenges if this is a Hit Job.

Wait till the Photog and the Minder have their say,and if the Photos are Shopped,the time stamp will burn someone.

[TomSlick]

4. No, by Heaven, no backing out now.

We must have an ethics investigation and the truth come out. Why was the charge made and who was behind it?

This accuser has done a terrible disservice to all the victims who have really been abused. She has confirmed the belief of too many that these allegations should be dismissed out of hand.

[Madam45for2923]

33. If this is a lie & a hit job it shows they don't care about real victims.

[Vogon_Glory]

14. If Tweeden wanted to play Paula Jones

She should have gotten her handlers to pay for a nose job or breast enlargement surgery in advance.

[oasis]

16. Prediction: She's not coming out of this smelling like a rose.

[rzemanfl]

30. Holy mackerel, a prediction! I will check back in a few months. n/t

[brooklynite]

22. Al Franken doesnt' say it was a set-up or hoax and has apologized...

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...but I'm sure a bunch of anonymous bloggers know better.

[rzemanfl]

29. Franken has been taking Republican flak (without a jacket) about his comedy

routines for years. He played it perfectly, didn't directly call her a liar, did not invoke gawd or his wife, acknowledged the sight gag was in bad taste and said, in effect "bring it on." In my humble, anonymous opinion that was the proper way to deal with this obvious ratfucking.

By the way, your subject line seems to be missing a word.

[standingtall]

23. Is that all you got

Did it ever occur to you that maybe Franken made a political calculation to just go ahead and apologize because of the crude photo. He has never admitted to kissing her against her will. If he would've called her a liar people would've still believed her and accused him of bullying or trying to intimidate an alleged victim on top of that. There are now multiple photos from the event of her groping and being groped as well as a picture of a kiss with Franken and a video and in the video she and Franken are wearing different clothing from the pic so they are two separate occasions. Her credibility is shot.

[Vinca]

26. Franken's apology included "not exactly how I remember it." I think he went ahead with the full

blown apology to shorten the cycle of the story. It was very smart. Now it appears the victim is a groper and the story is the exact opposite of what it was.

[Vinca]

28. Roger Stone seems to have had a part in orchestrating it, so most likely.

I wonder if she got paid.

[L. Coyote]

37. No, she is capitalizing on what little fame she has.