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CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:28 AM Nov 2017

American healthcare: Kentucky woman can't afford dialysis, so accepted she will die

THIS is what Republicans WANT Americans to face. Their attitude: CULL THE HERD. If people are sick, old, poor, critically injured and need health care and cannot afford it - they should just DIE. Quickly. Alan Grayson was RIGHT when he said that. People thought he sounded silly but what he said is the TRUTH.


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American healthcare: Kentucky woman can't afford dialysis, so accepted she will die (Original Post) CousinIT Nov 2017 OP
Single payer would save her life Not Ruth Nov 2017 #1
Any insurance at this point would save her life...but she is on medicare...which is what Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #2
She has insurance, Medicare, marybourg Nov 2017 #11
Any healthcare would. Like the ACA properly applied. Hortensis Nov 2017 #3
the woman has medicare/medicaid questionseverything Nov 2017 #19
A Congress and POTUS with even a vestigial conscience would be saving her life.... marble falls Nov 2017 #4
She has Medicare, which is single payer. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #5
VA pays my milage to get treatment. So should her medical program. marble falls Nov 2017 #6
Well now, transportation is considered a medical cost in this case. LuckyCharms Nov 2017 #9
Yes, I was puzzled at that. Medicaid covers dialysis if spooky3 Nov 2017 #10
Transportation expenses 3 times a week, 12 a month x 12mon. -groceries for the year Sunlei Nov 2017 #7
I would imagine it is organ shortage that is why she can't get the transplant dsc Nov 2017 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #13
Americans out of pocket med costs should be cut in half or none, if family agrees to organ donation. Sunlei Nov 2017 #14
I agree incentive need to be given for donation dsc Nov 2017 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #12
No Transportation & expensive transportation is why its hell to be sick &/or poor in America. Sunlei Nov 2017 #16
Where are the christian-filled churches hurrying to help out? Roland99 Nov 2017 #17
This (and elderly/poor suicide) will become epidemic hlthe2b Nov 2017 #18
Got a quick question crazycatlady Nov 2017 #21
I'm sure the pro-life people will step up to the plate and help. Vinca Nov 2017 #22
Saw that there is a gofundme for her Roland99 Nov 2017 #23

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
2. Any insurance at this point would save her life...but she is on medicare...which is what
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:38 AM
Nov 2017

we are talking about medicare for all. It is very sad.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
11. She has insurance, Medicare,
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:53 AM
Nov 2017

and it's paying. But it doesn't cover transportation. It did in the very beginning, but it quickly became a huge money-draining racket and Congress shut it off. It's usually the family and community who provide transportation now.
Dialasys is very draining and wearying and many people do reach the point she has.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Any healthcare would. Like the ACA properly applied.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:40 AM
Nov 2017

This woman looks as if Hillary's planned expansion of Medicare to cover people 55 and older would have solved most of her healthcare accessibility problem. And, of course, Medicaid would be available to her.

If you genuinely care about people dying for lack of healthcare, NotRuth, for their sake oppose what the right wing is doing, particularly those in office.

The OP may sound very emotional, but it is in fact the exact truth. A culling of the weak and needy is a huge motivation for the libertarian dark-money donors who are packing and dictating to today's GOP.

Other huge motivations are, of course, out-of-control greed and arrogance. But please note that some of these people are real libertarians and wired to be devoid of altruism. They really do not care about others, they really do think those who do are fools and weaklings, they really do extremely intensely resent mandatory taxation for almost anything, and they believe strongly that it is wrong to limit personal freedom by requiring people to help others.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
19. the woman has medicare/medicaid
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 04:37 PM
Nov 2017

the problem seems to be ky doesn't include rides for medical treatment in its Medicaid expansion

the aca left too many details to states (evidently)


marble falls

(57,080 posts)
4. A Congress and POTUS with even a vestigial conscience would be saving her life....
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:40 AM
Nov 2017

isn't Kentucky using the Medicaid exception?

Response to CousinIT (Original post)

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
9. Well now, transportation is considered a medical cost in this case.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:51 AM
Nov 2017

Using the "if not for" rule. If not for the dialysis, she would not need to incur the cost.

I'm not sure what your comment is implying.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. Transportation expenses 3 times a week, 12 a month x 12mon. -groceries for the year
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:46 AM
Nov 2017

add in the costs for dialysis medicare pays the (probably for private profit service) and just why can't this person have a kidney transplant for a couple decades of quality of life?

Why? because according to Republican party "VALUES" some Americans don't deserve quality medical care.

America/Americans deserve better.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
8. I would imagine it is organ shortage that is why she can't get the transplant
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:49 AM
Nov 2017

Her age would put her low on any list relative to younger people who have the same issues. Medicare pays for transplants if one can find a donor.

Response to dsc (Reply #8)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. Americans out of pocket med costs should be cut in half or none, if family agrees to organ donation.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:01 AM
Nov 2017

a total waste to throw away a corpse with good organs- I'm pro- life for others.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
15. I agree incentive need to be given for donation
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:02 AM
Nov 2017

I would let the outright sale of cadaver organs.

Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. No Transportation & expensive transportation is why its hell to be sick &/or poor in America.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:08 AM
Nov 2017

even worse when there isn't decent food in walking distance, or a person can't even walk because they're to old/sick. To poor to own a phone, to poor to have the internet.

Can see the depression on this persons face. A slow motion suicide and the hospital ignores her fears/tears.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
18. This (and elderly/poor suicide) will become epidemic
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 12:33 PM
Nov 2017

The world sees the inhumanity and how little our stated values actually mean.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
21. Got a quick question
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 05:31 PM
Nov 2017

I'm younger, so fortunately I haven't had these health issues.

I know that for some medical procedures, it is not advised that a patient drives themselves there (I needed a ride when I had my wisdom teeth taken out). Is dialysis such a procedure?

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
23. Saw that there is a gofundme for her
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 08:22 PM
Nov 2017
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1767735966601679&id=165643503477608

GOOD NEWS! First, I want to thank all those who expressed concern for Susan Moore, the Kentucky woman who cannot afford transportation to the medical appointments she needs to survive.

The good news: this @GoFundMe campaign has raised over $10k for her -- $5k over the goal!

Of course, the best way to fund citizen health needs is a government of, by, and for the people. There are millions of Americans like Susan -- citizens failed by a government overtaken by the rich, powerful, and selfish. We can, we must, and we WILL return power to the People.

https://www.gofundme.com/helpsusanmoore

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