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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 08:00 PM Nov 2017

CA releases long due cannabis regulations

There will be no cannabis cappuccinos or drone deliveries in California under the new pot rules state officials released Thursday that regulate everything from who can legally sell and deliver marijuana to how it must be packaged and transported.

The rules released by three licensing agencies — the Department of Health, Department of Food and Agriculture and the Bureau of Cannabis Control — offer the first glimpse of the future in which pot is legal throughout California.

Big farms will continue to thrive in Mendocino and Monterey. Small delivery services will finally operate legally. Pot won’t be transported in self-driving cars or on bicycles, and it isn’t allowed in strip clubs.

More here and links to the regulations

http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/California-s-releases-long-awaited-cannabis-12363619.php?utm_campaign=facebook-mobile&utm_source=CMS+Sharing+Button&utm_medium=social

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CA releases long due cannabis regulations (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 OP
Most of the rules seem reasonable. marble falls Nov 2017 #1
A lot will be settled in court or big changes ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #2
Sounds like regulation overkill to me: HeartachesNhangovers Nov 2017 #3
Complex issue cannabis... ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #4
That's no solution. Legislators can pass any HeartachesNhangovers Nov 2017 #5
Yeah, California sucks! Iggo Nov 2017 #7
Sucks, on a bong, you mean... ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #8
Hey-oh! Iggo Nov 2017 #9
I've a lot of friends in the cannabis industry here in CA ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #6
The aspect you discuss in your first paragraph is about to drastically change. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #11
I kind of like the status quo. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #10
There will be a flood ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #12

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
2. A lot will be settled in court or big changes
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:25 AM
Nov 2017

Will need to be made. I've never met a grower that could, or would, comply with the regulations. Only fresh start ups would.
My thing is edibles and I'm not sure how that works. Gotta study. I do know that a minimum investment would be 100k to start in that business legally.

3. Sounds like regulation overkill to me:
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:01 PM
Nov 2017
Pot won’t be transported in self-driving cars or on bicycles...


There's no restriction too trivial for the dedicated over-regulators in CA.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
4. Complex issue cannabis...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:54 PM
Nov 2017

I imagine that one ends up in court. I know that being able to buy or sell at events will be challenged too.if they sell Beer you should be able to buy pot too. Concerts, sporting events, whatever. Especially edibles. There would be less smoke (ohhh! It smells like a skunk!!!) And the concert would be cooler.

5. That's no solution. Legislators can pass any
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:48 PM
Nov 2017

restriction, even if it is clearly illegal or unconstitutional and they pay no penalty. In fact, they get paid for doing this stuff.

On the other hand, if you want to contest even a clearly illegal or unconstitutional law or regulation, you have to hire an attorney or team of attorneys and pay them to contest the provision, possibly all the way to the Supreme Court.

Legislators should be punished for introducing or voting "yes" on provisions that are later found to be illegal or unconstitutional. Maybe a week in jail for a first offense. But of course that can't happen - legislators have generally made themselves immune from prosecution for passing legislation, no matter how bad.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
6. I've a lot of friends in the cannabis industry here in CA
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:30 AM
Nov 2017

And, I am so surprised how little people in CA know about cannabis laws. Especially in the cannabis community. I have conversations daily with growers, sellers, oil makers, edible makers (me), trimmers and nobody knows the new laws and regulations just passed the CA legislature last Friday. Nobody knew they passed, and no one knows the contents (I posted them last Friday and have read some of them but its a lot of info) even! What is double trouble, is that none knew the regulations in the county they live in, or the way regulations work in regards to municipalities. State over rides all without regulations>county over rides state where regulations>city over rides county where regulated. If a city has no regulations, the State, not the county the city is located in, over rides. (Nevada county is like this. Grass Valley has no regs and the far more stringent Nevada County laws do not apply).

If I was in the biz, and go legal, study up. Hit this school. If you are not legal, in compliance, etc, then you will see heavy law enforcement efforts to force compliance. Just like Capone, tax Evasion. Sessions is already going to connect the legal states, to pot shipped to non legal states, so that will be cracked down on.

Anyway, read my previous post. Study your counties regulations. Go to this, or the other, schools popping up. Shit changes January1. Like it or not, if you are in the industry, you need to know your legal obligations.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. The aspect you discuss in your first paragraph is about to drastically change.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 01:22 PM
Nov 2017

They are still holding on to the concept of "growers" and "creativity". Many of them have a lot of passion but little business sense. It is transforming as it becomes a corporate industry. Over the next five years many of the old players will be gone and replaced by more corporate establishments.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
12. There will be a flood
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:37 AM
Nov 2017

For a long time. Growers are going crazy here, no caps, you will see a glut of pot. Out to Florida, Jersey, Philly etc it goes.

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