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Kaleva

(36,299 posts)
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:02 PM Nov 2017

Police: Hunter mistakes pickup truck for deer, shoots it

"Sheriff’s deputies say Marvin Miller of Middlefield, Ohio, fired a high-powered rifle at a pickup truck.

They say Miller told authorities he had mistaken the truck for a deer.

The sheriff’s office says the bullet entered the engine compartment and disabled the truck.

Miller was arrested on charges including reckless endangerment."

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/general-news/20171125/police-hunter-mistakes-pickup-truck-for-deer-shoots-it

My dad, a dairy farmer, kept the cows in the barn during deer rifle season. For some hunters, it was easy to mistake a 1200 lb. black and white cow for a 160 lb. brown colored deer.

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Police: Hunter mistakes pickup truck for deer, shoots it (Original Post) Kaleva Nov 2017 OP
2 Days Ago, It Was A Human SoCalMusicLover Nov 2017 #1
To the NRA, killing people with weapons demonstrates how effective the weapons are, Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #5
Sounds like it was a clean kill, though. Beartracks Nov 2017 #2
"The second hunting accident in Chautauqua County in three days" dalton99a Nov 2017 #3
My sister worked retail in WNY in the 90s TheOther95Percent Nov 2017 #12
Two similar stories I know of from the 1970's in NEPA. rickford66 Nov 2017 #17
People are too stupid to own guns. mythology Nov 2017 #4
+100000000 oasis Nov 2017 #29
Back in the 60s I remember a hunter doc03 Nov 2017 #6
A red fox on a horse? Doreen Nov 2017 #32
Who you calling an idiot? The women or the guy that shot her? doc03 Nov 2017 #33
Oh, sorry, I mean the asshole that shot her. Doreen Nov 2017 #36
He must have had few sips out of his flask nt doc03 Nov 2017 #37
Yeah or something even more stupid. Doreen Nov 2017 #41
Any hunter that shoots a person, truck, cow or anything other than a "deer" democratisphere Nov 2017 #7
Amen. Crunchy Frog Nov 2017 #34
I agree. Especially if alcohol was involved. LiberalFighter Nov 2017 #38
agreed gopiscrap Nov 2017 #39
When I staffed a fire lookout in the Oregon wilderness, September was bow-hunting season. DemoTex Nov 2017 #8
Shoulda called in an air strike on the hunter's camp. 10,000 gallons of that red stuff. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #13
Or like in 'Nam .. DemoTex Nov 2017 #18
Not even a warning shot? Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #43
Before I was born my father got winged by another hunter dembotoz Nov 2017 #9
I always worry about my horses this time of year Bayard Nov 2017 #10
Mister Magoo goes hunting. lpbk2713 Nov 2017 #11
I'm Sure No Alcohol Was Involved! ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #14
Despite enjoying venison, I gave up deer hunting a number of MineralMan Nov 2017 #15
My sentiments exactly. Paladin Nov 2017 #19
Yup. My old bolt-action sporterized Springfield MineralMan Nov 2017 #20
Nice to see someone else valuing Old School practices. Paladin Nov 2017 #23
Wouldn't an AR-15 cause to many bullets to hit the deer and ruin the meat? Doreen Nov 2017 #35
Not necessarily. You fire just one round MineralMan Nov 2017 #40
Ah, OK. Doreen Nov 2017 #42
"I thought it was a deer." CrispyQ Nov 2017 #16
TFA!! rusty fender Nov 2017 #21
Dern, hunters are getting more and more like cops. angstlessk Nov 2017 #22
Truck? That was an elephant and Dotard said I could shoot it! ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #24
awww cut the guy some slack Takket Nov 2017 #25
"Once you can hear the game, shoot! If you wait to see it, somebody else might shoot it first!" struggle4progress Nov 2017 #26
I live on a lake - rural area in general, but houses all around. phylny Nov 2017 #27
Thoughts and prayers for the truck. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #28
Will the shooter get to mount the Hemi engine... magicarpet Nov 2017 #30
I used to hear the "hunters" bitching how they hadn't got any sight shots today ... Yonnie3 Nov 2017 #31
 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
1. 2 Days Ago, It Was A Human
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

Hopefully the fine NRA Members will make sure these people get their guns back.

Guns are absolutely more valuable than humans.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
5. To the NRA, killing people with weapons demonstrates how effective the weapons are,
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:09 PM
Nov 2017

and that's a boost for gun sales.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
12. My sister worked retail in WNY in the 90s
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:05 PM
Nov 2017

She worked in a convenience store that sold ammunition during deer season. The store was on Rt 60 right outside of Jamestown. Hunters would come in and buy a box of ammo and a case of beer. One afternoon after work, she was driving home on RT 60 and her rear passenger window was shattered by a bullet. The cops said it must have traveled quite a distance.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
17. Two similar stories I know of from the 1970's in NEPA.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:18 PM
Nov 2017

My neighbor was standing in her doorway when a bullet hit the jamb above her head. Another neighbor was driving when a shotgun blast hit the drivers side door and injured him. Neither of these resulted in any charges that I know of. Also, I had a landlord who used to shoot deer out of his upstairs window and he was eventually caught and fined.

doc03

(35,336 posts)
6. Back in the 60s I remember a hunter
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:10 PM
Nov 2017

shooting a woman riding a horse. He thought she was a red fox.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
36. Oh, sorry, I mean the asshole that shot her.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 07:39 PM
Nov 2017

The only reason I could say I would EVER see a red fox riding a horse is because it was in a circus and that being extremely doubtful you would think common sense and being reasonable would take place. I have never seen a 15 hand or more fox.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
7. Any hunter that shoots a person, truck, cow or anything other than a "deer"
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:11 PM
Nov 2017

should forever lose their right to keep and bear arms.

.

DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
8. When I staffed a fire lookout in the Oregon wilderness, September was bow-hunting season.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:45 PM
Nov 2017

The bow hunters were cool. Never a problem for me in the nine years I did wilderness fire lookouts. They adhered to a "light hand on the land" philosophy.

But early October brought gun hunting season (for deer) in Oregon. Often, all hell broke loose. Fires. National Forest signs shot up. Drunk hunters on ATVs, shooting at anything that moved. ATV accidents. I put up signs on the trails leading up to the lookout requesting no shooting close to my tower-residence. Lotsa luck, there.

On October 2, 2010, the first day of gun season, hunters started a warming fire five miles from the fire lookout. At dawn, they abandoned it. At about 11 am, the smoke came up over the Ponderosa pines, and I started the initial attack process that ended up with aircraft dropping retardant on the fire to try to save a major powerline complex near the fire (it was saved). I named the fire the "Hunter Fire," when it was confirmed by a USFS fire investigator that it was a human caused fire with its origin at the site of a hunters' warming fire.

By about 6 pm, the hunters were in their main camp, close by, drinking. And shooting. Shooting in the direction of the firefighters and aircraft, that were way too close for comfort. The fire incident commander went over to the deer camp and requested that the hunters ceasefire. They did not. So the fire boss pulled all firefighting assets off the Hunter Fire.

Luck brought us a significant wetting rain event overnight. The Hunter Fire was contained at about 25 acres. We dodged a bullet (and some bullets!).

The same thing happened in 2012, but after I had closed the lookout for the season and headed back east. That hunter fire went undetected for quite a while, resulting in a much larger burn area (about 1000 acres).

Obviously, the vast majority of gun hunters are not like these drunken few. But my experience with gun hunters has not been good.



"Hunter Fire" from the fire lookout tower, shortly after I spotted and plotted it. The dark smoke streak is heavy fuel (big timber) ignighting.

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
9. Before I was born my father got winged by another hunter
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:57 PM
Nov 2017

My dad's uncle caught the shooter and destroyed his rifle.
When Dad returned home he encountered hurricane mom and that was the very very last time he went hunting. Not sure it even drew blood. Dad was extremely lucky.... until she found out.

Bayard

(22,071 posts)
10. I always worry about my horses this time of year
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:59 PM
Nov 2017

Even though they're in a fenced pasture. Saw one of my redneck neighbors carting a deer out of our adjoining woods in his ATV last week.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
14. I'm Sure No Alcohol Was Involved!
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:09 PM
Nov 2017

Because anybody sober would mistake deer and a fucking truck! (As if I need to add that)

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
15. Despite enjoying venison, I gave up deer hunting a number of
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:13 PM
Nov 2017

years ago. Too many dumbasses out there with their AR-15s these days. They have no idea how to hunt for deer, but they know how to fire many rounds from their little semi-auto peashooters. Personally, I can't imagine using a .223 round to hunt deer. But, they're on their own with that. I'm out. I miss the venison, but not enough to go out there with the Bozos.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
19. My sentiments exactly.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:28 PM
Nov 2017

The militarizing of hunting equipment in recent years has been accompanied by an increasingly childish attitude in shooting activities. I want no part of it.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
20. Yup. My old bolt-action sporterized Springfield
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:36 PM
Nov 2017

always seemed just about perfect for deer hunting. I can't see the utility of a semi-auto in .223 for that use. The old .30-06 180 grain load always seemed to do the trick just fine. One good shot. One deer. If there wasn't a clean, clear shot, I didn't pull the trigger.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
23. Nice to see someone else valuing Old School practices.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:06 PM
Nov 2017

I was a .270 guy, myself. I think it was all of those "Outdoor Life" articles by Jack O'Connor that did it.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
16. "I thought it was a deer."
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:15 PM
Nov 2017

Is that the new excuse for these responsible gun owners? Maybe cops who shoot unarmed black men, can use this excuse, too?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
24. Truck? That was an elephant and Dotard said I could shoot it!
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:29 PM
Nov 2017

Herd of deer? More like a platoon of North Korean soldiers invading upstate NY. Luckily I brought my bump stock.

Takket

(21,566 posts)
25. awww cut the guy some slack
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:34 PM
Nov 2017

Come on honestly... can you tell which of these is a truck and which is a deer? I can't!!!!!!!!! I would have made the same mistake



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phylny

(8,380 posts)
27. I live on a lake - rural area in general, but houses all around.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:35 PM
Nov 2017

This morning, before dawn, we heard rifle shots - one after the other after the other. There are lots of deer here, but there are people and dogs. And it is a residential neighborhood.

Idiots.

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
30. Will the shooter get to mount the Hemi engine...
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:53 PM
Nov 2017

On his living room wall just above the mantle at the fire place ?

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
31. I used to hear the "hunters" bitching how they hadn't got any sight shots today ...
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:54 PM
Nov 2017

as they bought more beer and ammo at the country store. They had been out in the woods drinking and shooting at sounds.

During deer season, we corralled all the horses between the house and the barn and keep the dogs and cats close.

Walking up the wooded drive we would blow whistles every 20 yards. We only lost one window to a bullet fired from a high powered rifle a good distance away. The Game Wardens and Sheriff's deputies wouldn't get out of their cars and go after these people. I don't blame them. If the hunters came out by them they would issue a warning about trespass and nothing about firing the guns or being drunk.

Hunting season was scary when the city folks came out.

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